I'm a bit annoyed that despite everyone says PVM's have great adjustability there doesn't seem to be a simple setting to move the picture horizontally. I can stretch it, but not move it. Vertically you can which puzzles me. (my model is 20M4E)
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I'm a bit annoyed that despite everyone says PVM's have great adjustability there doesn't seem to be a simple setting to move the picture horizontally. I can stretch it, but not move it. Vertically you can which puzzles me. (my model is 20M4E)
bodine1231
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On mine it's called "video phase" and controls horizontal shift. It doesn't shift it as much as the vertical shift but it does the job.
Ick. How disappointing...
bodine1231
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I do the same thing.
You don't think an extron device could take a component signal into its VGA port? It would have to be externally transcoded to RGB?
Has anyone tested this?
I found this post on the shmups forum:
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=51976
Can the 201 Rxi convert 480i to 240p by itself? If so, I'm buying the shit out of one.
If not, what are the extron devices that can deinterlace 480i into 240p? I'm looking to grab one if the price is right. I'm a huge Mega Man fan and can't stand the 480i presentation in MM9 and 10.
Not to pick on anyone specifically, especially has I did it myself several times, but I see this verb "transcode" frequently, notably to discuss the great Scart to Component adapters. Unless I'm mistaken, I believe you encode RGB to PAL/NTSC, you decode PAL/NTSC to RGB, and you transcode PAL to NTSC.
Now, RGBS <-> VGA is hmm... I suppose it depends whether you simply split/combine the sync or also line double the signal to conform to 480p VGA?
Now, RGBS <-> VGA is hmm... I suppose it depends whether you simply split/combine the sync or also line double the signal to conform to 480p VGA?
Oh this is like the scanlines vs. non-scanlined discussion all over again. :-/
Laevateinn
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So, what you're saying is I have to buy all of my cables again?
Everybody does it :/ It was just a passing comment, please carry on
I don't get it. He dismisses their cables because they use epoxy to strengthen the plug? I don't make cables but if I did, I'd drown the thing in epoxy as well to prevent solder points to break every time I bend my cables.
PumpkinSpice
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He had a bunch of tweets. Apparently they're not wired correctly (not to spec at least) and fixing them isn't feasible because of the epoxy. Also he hates epoxy.
Beer Monkey
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I could fix that broken cable in a minute. I'm more concerned about things that can't be fixed. I'll buy from her again, no problem.
OK, I'm confused. If it was wired wrong, return it, right?
OK, I'm confused. If it was wired wrong, return it, right?
theSlacker
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Well until there is someone better making cables I'll keep buying from her since I can't make my own. Would like to know if the bad wiring on that cable was a mistake or something that is normal from her though.
Cool, thanks for the write up, very informative. It's definitely something I want to do...just not sure when I'll be able to.
To be honest (some regular folk might remember this) the first cable I bought from her was faulty. She just replaced it for me. I still have it somewhere, never bothered to try fix it but maybe I should. I'm pretty sure it wasn't full of epoxy though.
It's not necessarily a terrible thing but it reminds me of Drakon and his hot glue lol.
It's not necessarily a terrible thing but it reminds me of Drakon and his hot glue lol.
NOLA_Gaffer
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What's my best solution for connecting a Dreamcast to a HDTV that lacks a VGA port without resorting to upscaler hardware?
Heard great things about this product.
Doesn't it upscale though?
PumpkinSpice
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Well, what other options are there? (for the non-DIYer)
I've bought all my RGB cables and adapters from https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/ and I've been very satisfied.
theSlacker
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Oh god. I assume that that is all the device's input lag and not even taking into account your televisions'? Or if they are saying stuff like that then it's reason to believe it is just whatever set they tested it on at the time.
I've been looking a their NTSC SNES SCART cable. Assuming I buy from them, I should be able to use any old SCART to HDMI adapter, correct? There isn't any weird Euro PAL SCART standard that will much things up?
Scart is Scart. The PAL/NTCS for some consoles refers to the pinout on the console side, which can differ depending on the region of origin of the console. SNES and Saturn are two that I remember of now, there may be more.
PumpkinSpice
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Just noticed Mega was banned again. Just can't stay un-banned.
Laevateinn
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SCART is just a cable standard designed to carry several different types of analog signals. The weirdness comes from the fact that Japan decided to create a standard of its own using the same connection but with a different pinout. Unfortunately, some of these lines carry a 5-V DC voltage which can damage your equipment if used in the wrong device.
All the best people get banned a lot. I wonder if it was for openly talking about downloading from a torrent.
Just saw this on twitter as well. Very disappointing, as all my cables are from her. To be fair, I am happy with them, but guess Im going with the UK shop from now on.
sixteen-bit
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put it on wheels and make it a portable setup
Needlecrash
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I've decided to give the PS2 a visual makeover treatment. I want to run it through my Panasonic Plasma and I've used the SCART-HDMI converter before with no issues. Thinking about getting a SCART cable for my PS2. Anyone else done this? It will be run through my converter.
NormalFish
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just finished it. Pretty good video, though I think the fact that they only did console everdrives and the sd2snes somewhat limits the utility of the video. Like a video on TVs that exclusively looks at sony tvs or something. Just doesn't give a good picture of the different options. Could be I'm biased, though, since handhelds are the main thing I like flashcarts for.
I use a proper upscaler, but I've done my fair share of PS2 research.
You're not going to get 480p via that adapter unless -- and this seems exceedingly unlikely -- it takes RGsB sync-on-green, so that's a concern. If your display is shit at deinterlacing or if the box fucks up 480i you'll have issues.
Which is why I'm glad they'll be doing other videos showcasing those also.
Pretty sure Cory said a couple minutes in that handhelds would be touched on in a future video. They seem to prefer to be more specific with their videos, so not surprising.
NormalFish
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I realize that, but segregating the videos like that makes it more difficult to have direct comparisons and showcase the utility of flashcarts more generally. I just think they're narrowing the scope of the individual videos for the worse.
He talks about the MSU-1 patches, and I'm so happy he showcased the Super Metroid MSU1 which is probably the best of them I've tried.
he even mentioned the conflicting RAM problem on the PC Engine when using the Everdrive and CD games, which was awesome. I really appreciate this kind of stuff when someone actually does his research - and presents it in a really interesting way.
he even mentioned the conflicting RAM problem on the PC Engine when using the Everdrive and CD games, which was awesome. I really appreciate this kind of stuff when someone actually does his research - and presents it in a really interesting way.
Why not use Component? 480p and no adapter / no additional lag
Finally got a good desk for my PVM.
That's just lovely. Where'd you grab the desk?
16 Bit is right. Wheels would make it even better. My PVM is on wheels too.
sixteen-bit
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What's this about a Mega Drive VGM player?
Finally got a good desk for my PVM.
wow this looks perfect!! what pvm model do you have and where did you get that desk??
Needlecrash
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So, I guess I'm better off getting a Framemeister or the OSSC once it's available again.
Ended up purchasing a Klipsch Pro media 2.1 setup for my PVM. Pop'n Music comin' to life. Awww yeeeeeah.
CrashPrime
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What's the desk. We be drooling.
geniusbits
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So you know how there's all of these CRT shaders and scan line generators for old console games emulated on PC? What if you want to play old computer games? I was thinking an easy way to do that would be to buy an old PC with an old Windows version running and just find discs, but what if you wanted to use your new PC? Sites like GOG sell a lot of gems, but I don't always like the way they look on new monitors. Something like Diablo looks fantastic on a CRT monitor running on an old PC, but upscaled and whatever else needs to be done to display it on fixed pixel, not so great. Are there CRT effects that can be applied to old PC games displayed on new PCs?
Haven't heard of such shaders for regular PC games. I mean it can be done in a way of writing a dx9 wrapper similar to ENB series for example. But the caveat would be compatibility with older games that use dx8 and below. It's not impossible but more effort than it's worth in my opinion. Adding to this the fact that old PC games (and old PCs) are not exactly highly popular items for retro collectors, compared to the consoles and conosle games. So the support and demand for such application is not that high.
So in reality the best way to go right now is buying old CRT and uisng it as a secondary monitor for older games that handle lower resolutions only (up to 1024x768).
For stuff from golden age (late 90 to early 2000) cheap core2duo based PC is not giving me any problems. And most of the games that are having issues launching, have some sort of fan made patches to resolve the issues.
For really old stuff DosBox is the way to go. It's not ideal but unless you wan't to deal with configuring old games, especially sound ( choosing IRQ and stuff) i would not recommend original hardware (386,486 IBM PCs).
That of course leaves a huge gap in between meaning all windows 3.x games and aplications. Don't know of any (working) emulator for that system, so the only option here is real hardware.
I agree with the idea of keeping a CRT as a secondary monitor in a lower resolution, it's probably the easiest to get the old visuals back. But I'm biased towards CRTs.
Even then there hare hurdles: games without a fan patch or GOG port are likely to run into problems on your modern 64bit OS, the newest graphics cards are ditching the analogue VGA output, and configuring the PC to output the very low definition needed can be really difficult, if not impossible. Modern OSes and drivers are simply not designed with a variable definition in mind.
Even then there hare hurdles: games without a fan patch or GOG port are likely to run into problems on your modern 64bit OS, the newest graphics cards are ditching the analogue VGA output, and configuring the PC to output the very low definition needed can be really difficult, if not impossible. Modern OSes and drivers are simply not designed with a variable definition in mind.
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