Randolph Freelander
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Roughly that. Give or take.
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Reuters: Trump administration tells EPA to cut climate page from website
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Roughly that. Give or take.
brandonh83
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Let me tell you, those emails were far more terrifying.
ImpracticalPassword
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It feels like it's a sinkhole: it looks fine on the surface but the bedrock has been eroding for years. Erosion of our education system, political institutions, civil liberties, social safety net, the deranging of our media environment, the whiplash caused by rapid social and technological change (both good things imo but they were never going to go down easy), the unsustainable levels of inequality, and our continuing 9/11 PTSD have really done a fucking number on us. I think it just looked less precarious than it actually was. I don't think we were necessarily sliding towards some authoritarian hell, just making it more easily digestible to enough people.
Holy shit...
NOAA still has climate change as a topic on their site.
http://www.noaa.gov/media-release/climate-change-to-shift-global-pattern-of-mild-weather
and globalchange.gov is still up (13 agencies contribute to the site).
http://www.globalchange.gov/
http://www.noaa.gov/media-release/climate-change-to-shift-global-pattern-of-mild-weather
and globalchange.gov is still up (13 agencies contribute to the site).
http://www.globalchange.gov/
The Republicans actively want NOAA dismantled and/or privatized
Lilalaunebaer
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Scientists better leave the country soon. This is modern book burning. I have an open couch for when they start burning them at the stake.
Darkstorne
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On top of: gag orders for the EPA that prevent them talking to the public; Confirming Keystone XL, going all in on fossil fuels and scrapping subsidies for renewable energy; "speeding up" environmental checks to allow protected land to be mined and drilled from now on; and Republicans finally admitting climate change is real and man made, but they don't really give a shit, they just want to get rich for a few more years at the expense of the entire planet.
Madonna needs to rethink her White House plans, or you guys need another civil war. This is beyond fucked up, and he's going to get away with all of it.
Madonna needs to rethink her White House plans, or you guys need another civil war. This is beyond fucked up, and he's going to get away with all of it.
mango drank
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Individual members will leak stuff anonymously, outside of work. Of course, we won't know whether it's real EPA employees doing it, or fake news.
What do you expect them to do? Trump is following the GOP agenda to a T.
This is the GOPS madness. Not just Trumps. They're all fucking insane.
Hidden One
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Don't worry we'll all be dead soon..
paradise_circus
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I for up till now thought that Trump and the houses can't stop the change towards green energy, because they really got cheap and are not affected by fossil prices. The US started to decrease its CO2 emission even under the second Bush period.
But I guess you the US really wants to burn us to death.
But I guess you the US really wants to burn us to death.
Sgt. Kabukiman
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Hey America, you want to burn yourself to the ground, go ahead. But you're fucking up this planet for the rest of us. The amount of crazy ass threads that pop up every day now about Trump is scary. So much for those that thought he would be harmless once in office. Come on, America, time to take to the streets and dethrone this fucker.
Darkstorne
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And that's supposed to make us feel better? It's okay because government officials with try to deny their tyrant overlord and sneak us important information against his will?
Not even kidding. This has to be done if this is the line Trump and his party is taking. He is silencing government officials, deleting public information, removing essential healthcare for women and the poor, and changing environmental protection laws to mine and frack your historically protected lands. YOU HAVE A TYRANT.
BoboBrazil
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But think about how much more money the CEOS of the oil companies are gonna have!
TheOctodad
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Round 2 y'all: http://www.scientistsmarchonwashington.com/
Pop-O-Matic
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Nah, you'll be joining us soon enough. The Alt-Right's gonna come to roost there too just like they did in the UK and US.
Smiles and Cries
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this is not fucking acceptable
mango drank
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Nothing will make us feel better. This is a waking nightmare.
I was born in a country where our people dethroned and executed our dictator. My family then moved to the States, where, decades later, its people elected one freely.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Canada needs to take charge in being the North American leader. It's time.
Fuck the dependency in U.S. and rise.
Fuck the dependency in U.S. and rise.
BronzeWolf
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Canada is too afraid of standing up for "allies" to be any kind of leader soon.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/busin...n/news-story/89bd60dd8cdadbee0b8a1dc10741ac50
More_Badass
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As an American, it disgusts me
As someone who loves reading and learning about history, it's terrifying.
Every new announcement and report, I can only just think "How?" (Well, first "what the fuck"). To go from the country's roots, from those words emblazoned on the Statue of Liberty, from the melting pot, to...this
killer rin
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You know what, I take back my edit from a previous thread. Fuck off America, you wannabe-developing-country. Your fucking all of us with these moves. Seriously, this is so aggravating to read. Your government is fucking with the scientific community in an attempt to undermine the Climate Change argument and fuck all of us.
Buba Big Guns
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Canada is a dwarf compared to the American economic juggernaut. It is fundamentally tied to American trade, and until the economy can be sufficiently diversified, it would be a death knell on the Canadian economy if it started trade disputes with the US.
Canada can however take charge on refugees, climate change, innovation and science. I really hope Trudeau implements an accelerated process for people in STEM fields to come to Canada. The timing is perfect to start brain draining from the US.
So the Republicans can do all of this in less than a week, but Obama and the Democrats needed years to even talk about the environment?
Makes somehow both sides look really bad. And it's not like that Obama ever, not even during his first years was a global champion on this topic.
Makes somehow both sides look really bad. And it's not like that Obama ever, not even during his first years was a global champion on this topic.
Darkstorne
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You don't need to be a global champion of anything. You just need the common sense to listen to the scientists who spend their entire lives studying these things, and adapt policies to suit. That's exactly what Obama did, when Congress allowed him (which was often heavily Republican). Trump won't have those issues thanks to the way America has been voting lately. Which means he can be his usual egotistical idiotic self and ignore expert advice in favour of believing he knows everything, and is capable of producing his own facts and evidence from his anus, and no, he won't ever share that evidence with you - so you'll just have to assume that when he says he has evidence for his opinions, he genuinely does.
Which is easier to do? Writing something meaningful in a memo pad, or tearing the paper out and flushing it down a toilet?
At the beginning he had congress and still did nothing about the environment. Look what the German left and the Green party did while they were in power compared to Obama and it is even sadder.
Trump is terrible, but pretty much nobody expected Hillary to do something on her own. Like Obama she would let herself drag along with California and somehow sold it as their idea.
somecrazymember
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Thanks america. You screwed over our upcoming generation. I hope by then they'll find a solution to the mess we did.
maquiladora
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Evil.
Trump voters, hang your heads in shame.
Trump voters, hang your heads in shame.
The solution will have to come from alliances between China, India and Europe.
America should be disgusted with itself but in truth the people who voted for Trump have no shame. I feel sorry for the ones who voted Hillary. Everyone who didn't bears responsibility for the coming disasters.
Fixed. Dems aren't perfect but I will never forgive the GOP. They are just as guilty for this hell.
Little Old Man
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Come on guys let me hear u
America first!
America first!
America first!
America first!
Darkstorne
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Come on, that's just not remotely true. Even in 2009 he committed $90 billion to green energy subsidies, signed a bill that protected over a million acres of wilderness, and in 2010 he launched the Great Outdoors initiative which was 100% focused on conservation and environmental recreation.
Also of note: He used the Antiquities Act more than any president in history, and mainly to protect the environment. He is arguably the best president America has ever had where the environment is concerned.
somecrazymember
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Huh... Tweeting this to Dawkins, Krauss, Degrasse Dyson now.
I'll march sith if it goes on
When Trump won our stupid election, I bawled my eyes out. In the weeks that followed, things seemed "the same" enough that I wasn't sure why I had done it. Now I know. We get reminded day after day. I feel worse about the world than I ever have in my life. This sucks.
hydragonwarrior
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Trump axing the arts and sciences (including history) is textbook keeping the base dumb so they continue to vote Republican in the future.
And they also know that, if they want those programs back, Dems would have to raise taxes which gets an instant "No" vote from every American.
GOP on point with ruthless, disgusting politics, and there's really nothing to stop their ground game with Fox News et al.
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