Dusk Soldier
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Rick & Morty [Mafia] |OT| Someone's been spending too much time around glowing rocks
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Cheers lads.
Zeusy seems to be engaging in some very lazy bandwagoning indeed.
VOTE: Zeusy
My point is that he jumped on someone that someone else had just voted for, with no explanation at all. Just done the same thing today. Perhaps bandwagon was the wrong word.
I went back to look after you replied to me.
So a vote which I've explained (even if you don't like the reasoning) is lazier that votes with no explanation at all? That's bs and you know it.
Does it matter if CCS's vote is "lazy?"
It does to CCS apparently
He's not wrong though.
Past that, I asked because what does it matter when we know he is town?
Laziest of the explained voted then? Honestly I can't judge if the unexplained votes are lazy or not because... they're unexplained.
Your vote was just "hey guys Zeusy right? Ehhhh yeah Zeusy sure." It looked like you hadn't even looked up the D2 votes that triggered your vote, what could be lazier than that?
But as Sorian pointed out, your town, so meh
lord of castamere, nomadic
I would have questioned you regardless since his vote actually had a progression to it but I think not remembering he was town might actually be the best town tell you could give.
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DAY 3 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:
Fat4all (4)
CCS 1038 1152
Ourobolus 1050
The Wizard 1062
Zeusy 1109
Nomadic Sparks 1112
Sorian (2)
*Splinter 1009
acohrs 1018
SalvaPot (2)
Dusk Soldier 1107
SalvaPot 1111
Swamped (2)
Kawl_USC 1029
Sorian 1083
Zeusy (1)
CCS 1152
No active vote for Day 3: Dr. Worm, Faddy, Fat4all, Giant Panda, Penguin, Swamped, zeemumu
Day 3 Postcount: *Splinter 21, acohrs 12, CCS 12, Dr. Worm 6, Dusk Soldier 11, Faddy 16, Fat4all 2, Giant Panda 4, Kawl_USC 15, Nomadic Sparks 5, Ourobolus 16, Penguin 12, SalvaPot 8, Sorian 27, Swamped 6, The Wizard 5, zeemumu 6, Zeusy 5
Day 3 ends:
Automated vote tally here
10 votes for majority
Fat4all (4)
Ourobolus 1050
The Wizard 1062
Zeusy 1109
Nomadic Sparks 1112
Sorian (2)
*Splinter 1009
acohrs 1018
SalvaPot (2)
Dusk Soldier 1107
SalvaPot 1111
Swamped (2)
Kawl_USC 1029
Sorian 1083
Zeusy (1)
CCS 1152
No active vote for Day 3: Dr. Worm, Faddy, Fat4all, Giant Panda, Penguin, Swamped, zeemumu
Day 3 Postcount: *Splinter 21, acohrs 12, CCS 12, Dr. Worm 6, Dusk Soldier 11, Faddy 16, Fat4all 2, Giant Panda 4, Kawl_USC 15, Nomadic Sparks 5, Ourobolus 16, Penguin 12, SalvaPot 8, Sorian 27, Swamped 6, The Wizard 5, zeemumu 6, Zeusy 5
Day 3 ends:
Automated vote tally here
10 votes for majority
This is straight bull shit Salva
I've made posts like these as town with out enough time on my hand (yes despite ouros continued jests I'm busy both as town and scum) so I don't really find it odd. It can be a useful way to try and force yourself into giving this game some time as otherwise you've gone back on your word and look bad. Maybe a slight town lean on this post, but when I make them I wasn't under the sword of Damocles either, soooo idk. I won't be voting for fat over swamped today.First off, I wanna apologize for being so flaky in general this game. I would try to explaine, but its a combination of outside-of-the-game issues that have kept my mind only half on this game for a while. Because of this, I can understand those voting for me for my inconsistent play and activity during the game so far. I would ask that you to trust me, though, when I ask to give me a second chance to fully throw myself back into the game. Second, my thinking on the last days events aligns with that of Giant Panda. I feel as if Scum is looking to get either Zee or myself lynched off of the results of the end of yesterday.
While Im going to bed right now, I will be back 6 hours before the end of the day, so Ill be doing as best I can do when I wake up in giving both reads and opinions to try and prove my worth more than I have so far. I wont drop the ball anymore, promise.
I actually agree with this post and sentiment, blah blah eliminating scum always advances game, but generally lynching scum provides way more data in terms of vote and discussion to provide crucial links or signs of bussing. Salva would provide none of that, I really don't think this is a crazy statement and sorians response to it kind of baffles me. I'm trying to not town read splinter solely for posting logic I agree with as I think that's a pretty easy scum line to take, but it's definitely shifting my read of him regardless.
Lynching a theoretical scum salva would, by virtue of the process of voting them out, provide votes, discussion, and signs of bussing. Just because he hasn't been a major player in past days, doesn't mean a lynch would just go through on him without any fanfaire if he were scum.
LoC is Salva pot acohrs. You keeping up with that game?
His posts this time actually have reads and analysis in them. He was busy in love boat too and his contributions day 1 were super low key and barebones. I feel like I see him going out on a limb more here.
You think scum would lift a finger to defend scum!Salva with the position LoC and him has put them in?
What about that whole thing he rattled off on Darryl and the ensuing verbal slap fight over that
Which posts here have reads and analysis
Quoted these out of order, but idk I'm a little worried about ouro. The first post I could very easily see as weak deflection/justification for not voting a scum team mate.
The second I could see from scum!Ouro to try and foster more suspicion on those who get vote blocked.
What is everyone else's opinion on Ouro?
They would react. Who says it needs to be a defense. If they find it to be a lost cause then they would bus instead. The point is a scum lynch never happens in a vaccuum.
You mean how he made a surface level read on Darryl that took him 5min to whip up and then played secondary while I wasted the threads time playing up an argument for half the day phase?
Also, I answered that question last question for Ty on day 1. I know there's more days now and you probably want quotes from there but honestly, I don't care about trying to convince you and I'm about to drive home and get some sleep so not going to hunt quotes on mobile.
You sleep and everyone goes crazy!
Here's the problem with the Fat logic NOW is if folks are using it to read scum/town
If he is scum, I think scum will just bandwagon onto Fat so that they can prove themselves as town because everyone is saying what they are using a Fat lynch for.
If he is town, we're in the same boat we were with Kalor.
So your read list is
Fat, Zee, Sorian and Swamped? Just so I parse out this information.
Well I don't like you either, but we don't need personal attacks here!
But seriously what do you wanna know?
Here's the problem with the Fat logic NOW is if folks are using it to read scum/town
If he is scum, I think scum will just bandwagon onto Fat so that they can prove themselves as town because everyone is saying what they are using a Fat lynch for.
If he is town, we're in the same boat we were with Kalor.
So your read list is
Fat, Zee, Sorian and Swamped? Just so I parse out this information.
Well I don't like you either, but we don't need personal attacks here!
But seriously what do you wanna know?
The first post only looks scummy if you're already convinced Swamped is scum, which I'm not
I don't see anything wrong with the second
The Wizard
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What's W/W? I mostly see there posts two town members wanting to push the days lynch in different directions.
W/W means we are both scum (it's wolf/wolf)
Faddy/Giant Panda too. I've got less on them but I'd be surprised if they're both town.
Also a small thing I don't think I mentioned at the time, but it was kinda weird when Kawl was trying to paint Bronx as some formidable opponent just because he had that neutral win last game.
I'm kind of null on Kawl overall, he's been agreeing with me a lot which can be a good or a bad thing, I'd probably be more concerned with him if I didn't have so many other scumreads.
I'm kind of null on Kawl overall, he's been agreeing with me a lot which can be a good or a bad thing, I'd probably be more concerned with him if I didn't have so many other scumreads.
Yea but it would essentially just have the argument "coasting scum" or "waste of a lynch" and split the members between the two camps. Viola hidden successfully with minimal info gained.
I've been a bit of a dick to Bronx in the past with relation to his play. I'm not going to take away from the fact that he played and won as a SK which is a pretty difficult task. Y'all might feel it was overly generous but meh, I've been overly critical of him in the past so what're gonna do.
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Just woke up and I've got a few hours before class starts, so I'll take some time to do some investigating before I place my vote. I really wish today was shorter than normal.
I'm still kinda miffed about the "relying on town to change votes in order to not get a tie with 2 minutes left", but other than that I don't have much against him. However, if Swamped came out as scum, that'd make me very suspect of Ouro because that first post seems like bad reasoning to me. They clashed at one point yesterday too:
Perhaps scum partners trying to put some distance between each other by having a public but harmless spat?
I agree, their disagreements seem to be genuine in my reading, and the fact that's been continuous all day makes me doubt that's two scum against each other.
I'm still kinda miffed about the "relying on town to change votes in order to not get a tie with 2 minutes left", but other than that I don't have much against him. However, if Swamped came out as scum, that'd make me very suspect of Ouro because that first post seems like bad reasoning to me. They clashed at one point yesterday too:
Perhaps scum partners trying to put some distance between each other by having a public but harmless spat?
I agree, their disagreements seem to be genuine in my reading, and the fact that's been continuous all day makes me doubt that's two scum against each other.
What sorian said, but mostly useful for the case where one of the two is lynched and turns up scum, I believe that the conversation on this page would clear the other as pretty solid town based on their interactions.
Ouro is similar in that he's agreed with / townread me enough to make me a little uneasy, but I don't have much reason to town/scumread him beyond that.
Zeusy is still my only townread, based entirely on gut. Oh and Dusk too, to a lesser extent.
Acohrs and Nomadic are firmly null, maybe slight town leans.
Penguin is a lean scum, a little overeager to be on everyone's good side. Too far down my scumlist to be interesting today though.
Who'd I miss? Oh Salva. His fast response to a vote was sus, I'll give Dusk that.
Boom. Reads.
Zeusy is still my only townread, based entirely on gut. Oh and Dusk too, to a lesser extent.
Acohrs and Nomadic are firmly null, maybe slight town leans.
Penguin is a lean scum, a little overeager to be on everyone's good side. Too far down my scumlist to be interesting today though.
Who'd I miss? Oh Salva. His fast response to a vote was sus, I'll give Dusk that.
Boom. Reads.
Hey you can't steal my line any ways. I said this about us first. If you don't want me to agree with you, take more illogical stances on things like sorian.
*to Kawl. I didn't expect so many other posts in between there.
In case it wasn't clear I lean town on both of them, just with reservations.
What are you even doing? Couldn't you apply this trash logic to literally any scum lynch? Ring me up again when everyone in this community is the bastion of perfect play. I'll probably be long dead by that point but you can at least try.
I'm home and about to go to bed, I should be awake an hour before day end at the latest.
No because other scum Lynch's have the slot actually playing the game. Which the salva spot essentially does not. This day has also been super lackadaisical in terms of fruitful discussion and a last day swing to Salva would doubtful bring up lots of discussion to catch people up regardless.
Going to follow into this
Vote: zeusy
I'm giving fat the big town read now. Perhaps I am being naive but if I take that to its logical conclusion then scum were going to be going hard for him today since he sort of just faded away on day 2. Of the people who voted for fat so far I find zeusy the most suspicious, town confirm CCS is already on him. Time to get this wagon started.
It honestly baffles me that you are really trying to argue that a Salva lynch gives us a good amount of actionable info convincingly improve towns win chance beyond just a lone scum removed.
Yes if the scum team completely falls apart and shows their hand in the full on bussing or saving of Salva sure that would give us something, but despite your continued derision towards my posts and others, we can at least assume decent play from scum (or at the very least shouldn't make decisions based on assuming the worst reactions from them about something) which would almost certainly not give us anything if the train turned towards scum!salva
Yes if the scum team completely falls apart and shows their hand in the full on bussing or saving of Salva sure that would give us something, but despite your continued derision towards my posts and others, we can at least assume decent play from scum (or at the very least shouldn't make decisions based on assuming the worst reactions from them about something) which would almost certainly not give us anything if the train turned towards scum!salva
My comment on a possible Salva lynch was just based on past experiences. I've seen scum lynches that turned the game around and I've seen scum lynches that lead to relatively little. Salva's position had all the hallmarks of the latter, especially with a late Kalor-esque swing, but of course things can turn out differently.
Hell, just the fact that I cut it off could make that lynch more interesting from someone else's pov.
Also just realised I missed Dr Worm in my reads list. The only thing I remember is how much he wants Fats dead. The intensity of his tunnel has not matched the strength of arguments he's put forward. Not sure what to make of that but it does make me wary of lynching fats.
Hell, just the fact that I cut it off could make that lynch more interesting from someone else's pov.
Also just realised I missed Dr Worm in my reads list. The only thing I remember is how much he wants Fats dead. The intensity of his tunnel has not matched the strength of arguments he's put forward. Not sure what to make of that but it does make me wary of lynching fats.