can we get Dusk Soldier now?
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Rick & Morty [Mafia] |OT| Someone's been spending too much time around glowing rocks
- Thread starter AbsolutBro
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can we get Dusk Soldier now?
huh
Well, either you're the vote blocker, or the vote blocker is trying to get you lynched.
Smells like a red herring either way, as I feel like the vote blocker might be neutral and we really need to get scum.
Lets wait for Sorian first.
Nomadic Sparks
Banned
What a surprise on being voteblocked
THANKS FOR NOTHING Neutrals
THANKS FOR NOTHING Neutrals
Can people stop doing stupid, low effort shit like this now?
Go look at posts dig up posts that look bad that you haven't stanned on yet. Make a case instead of just posting let's lynch X.
It feels like not a single person who got lynched more than 2 or 3 actually thought they were scum. Make cases. Convince people. We have what, 5 confirmed town? For the love of Christ can we vote someone we think is actually scum and not just to keep someone else from getting lynched?
Suck on an Ice-Cube and chill, then come back to me.
Oh shit you're right. It's day 5 and we are down 8 townies. It's obviously time to keep pushing useless tunnels and not reassessing what the hell were doing.
Thanks man
Yeeaaah I don't buy your sense of urgency here.
He's not wrong, though.
We need to look into everyone who isn't confirmed, there's a good chance we can hit scum today if we dig deep and come out with solid reads. That might not work super well with players like Zeusy, but there's still a good bit to go over generally.
This might be our last chance in the game to get long, proper reads on the players left before we have to start digging in and prolonging the game by any means.
Then you're a bozo.
We have a healthy number of conf town thanks to sorian. Reads should be reassessed in light of that info. Look st how players interact with people we know are town. Scum know those people are town as well. Town do not before sorians post.
Do some work to back up your read beyond making a garbage tier post.
Well, I already gave my reasoning of why I want Dusk gone, no need to hammer it again.
Also, its really nice to ride my ass when your own ass is flaccid and unappealing, what have YOU done today for your ass? Where are your reads and high-effort post today? Saying "You are not working enough!" is not a high quality post, is just stating the obvious.
Nomadic Sparks
Banned
but for now we do the Sorian Sit
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Because we have way more info now. Go find new shit that either builds your case or find something that makes you reconsider! Reads should develop!
Like holy shit.
I've at least detailed exactly how people should use the new info beyond just waiting for sorian to show up and try and win the game single handedly. I've been driving and am about to play softball since the day started but when I can make the time I will follow up with the useful shit I'm saying. Which is far more than you can say.
I swear to god if you're town it's so fucking frustrating playing with you.
If you're gonna play mafia, play mafia. Don't just be a lump letting scum coast to victory.
Right.
Come on Kawl, I have a hard time believing you are this petty, my post was my way to start the day and obviously I plan on doing more, hell, I was expecting to get a reaction but apparently who I got to react was you.
I really feel your harshness is unwarranted and, quite frankly, staged. I called you on it so you are doubling down now, but I feel this is your way to get townie points. I am certainly town, but are you?
I absolutely promise you this isn't staged. I'm straight up done with gafia town play being garbage low effort shit. If you're town, fucking earn this win.
Well then you are going to be disappointed I play at my own rhythm, I'm here to have fun, not to stress over our eventual demise.
While you are taking out your frustrations we could be doing with more people posting red lists
We have so many confirmed Towns that it should be easy enough to give reads on the remaining players.
But aren't you a role blocker of some kind?
They got vote blocked (or at least, they are claiming they got vote blocked).
Well, there is a way to find out.
Nomadic votes, and if it doesn't count, then we know its not affected by my role.
I did that once and almost got modkilled.
Probably not the best idea. tbh. If they are town that would fuck us over even more.
It might be best just to ignore it for now, like you said yesterday. It feels like more of a distraction than anything else.
Oh wow that sucks, lol. Voteblocker is usually a neutral ability, since it can wins you a game if you survive until the end.
The Wizard
Member
Gonna try to break up the list of unconfirmed off the top of my head (taking Sorians claim as truthful for now)
Neutral
15. Faddy [m] - slipped up day 1 not knowing town/scum flavor, pretty aggressive, not sure who aligned with. Possibly a neutral voteblocker.
Town
16. SalvaPot [m] - claimed early, claim is weird but high risk move for scum at that stage. most towny on this list for me
03. Dusk Soldier [m] - good prod votes, didn't jump on panda given chance
14. Verelios [m] - swamped was iffy but vere seems to be asking the right kind of questions, weak town read for now.
10. Kawl_USC [m] - liked his train of thought but this read is getting iffy now, some of the last few acorhs votes could have been deliberate?
Scum
21. Penguin [m] - coasting, trying to stay out of fights but seems to be attempting to guide town subtlety with vague suggestions
07. Zeusy [m] - almost a can't read but really hasn't helped town at all and may be hiding behind the too dumb to be scum excuse
17. Nomadic Sparks [m] - doesn't leave much of an impression but has bandwagoned pretty easily
02. Dr. Worm [m] - least sure about this one but was weirdly eager to lynch sorian for proof and went hard on fat early game which sidetracked town quite badly
If Sorian visited someone last night this list should shrink by one and we should have a decent chance of hitting scum, at least 50/50 worst case.
Neutral
15. Faddy [m] - slipped up day 1 not knowing town/scum flavor, pretty aggressive, not sure who aligned with. Possibly a neutral voteblocker.
Town
16. SalvaPot [m] - claimed early, claim is weird but high risk move for scum at that stage. most towny on this list for me
03. Dusk Soldier [m] - good prod votes, didn't jump on panda given chance
14. Verelios [m] - swamped was iffy but vere seems to be asking the right kind of questions, weak town read for now.
10. Kawl_USC [m] - liked his train of thought but this read is getting iffy now, some of the last few acorhs votes could have been deliberate?
Scum
21. Penguin [m] - coasting, trying to stay out of fights but seems to be attempting to guide town subtlety with vague suggestions
07. Zeusy [m] - almost a can't read but really hasn't helped town at all and may be hiding behind the too dumb to be scum excuse
17. Nomadic Sparks [m] - doesn't leave much of an impression but has bandwagoned pretty easily
02. Dr. Worm [m] - least sure about this one but was weirdly eager to lynch sorian for proof and went hard on fat early game which sidetracked town quite badly
If Sorian visited someone last night this list should shrink by one and we should have a decent chance of hitting scum, at least 50/50 worst case.
Well acohrs was looking at you
Were one of the final votes against him and trying to push blame around so yeah going with scum here.
Oh that was fast, just a lot Daddy Kawl yelling at people.
This seems sketchy after your whole song and dance of it being only 3 shot yesterday.
By virtue of him receiving a PM, we know that it's not affected by your role. The issue is that Nomadic could very well just be lying about being voteblocked but he likely won't/can't prove it as Splinter was too scared to try.
This seems sketchy after your whole song and dance of it being only 3 shot yesterday.
By virtue of him receiving a PM, we know that it's not affected by your role. The issue is that Nomadic could very well just be lying about being voteblocked but he likely won't/can't prove it as Splinter was too scared to try.
Aww, so you are telling me Dusk is clean?
Faddy is in no way confirmed and I don't see anyone saying that.
I mean, you can start taking things with a kind of grain of salt because I have no way of knowing when/if I've been roleblocked but I targeted him and I'm not dead so I'm going to accept him as a green check for now.
So you havent gotten a confirmation on their role?
The Wizard
Member
So do you think acorhs' distrust of Sorian also has merit?
I feel like I've already explained my vote for him in the context of yesterday's end, when I decided on the vote it was 3:3 with acorns and kawl and everyone on the acorhs train was soft-confirmed town, so to me it wasn't unimaginable that some late scum votes would come in to take advantage of kawls absence and steal the lynch.
Regardless it's late here so I'll try to make a more detailed case for why I believe you to be scum in the morning.
The Wizard
Member
I think as weak cop the only confirmation he'll get is surviving a visit to someone at night. It seems like Salvation has some form of town roleblock but there could be a scum one too.
I don't get confirmations of anyone's alignment. That's standard for a weak cop role. The only thing that is slightly non-standard is that mine is worded that I die if I target mafia-aligned players. I believe the standard version of the role is you die if you target any non-town players so I don't die to neutrals but weak cops usually do. There could be a design decision for that or it could have just been AB's preference without much thought to it so I haven't bothered worrying about it.
OK, so as long as you werent blocked somehow, that means Dusk isnt scum.
And at the same time, not everyone youve cleared is necessarily town, they could also be neutral.
Correct, at this stage though, we need a scum lynch so we actually have a thread to pull on which is why I'm not going against occam's razor here.
Well I'm going to start with this
VOTE: Nomadic Sparks
After the outburst yesterday, silencing no one frames him but that isn't what happened and he isn't really a huge force to be reckoned with so silencing his vote makes no real sense unless A) he's scum and the power is scum and they used it to hopefully brush him back under the rug or B) the power is town or neutral in which case there's nothing here but I'm still ok with starting things off with a Nomadic vote with how things have been going so far.
VOTE: Nomadic Sparks
After the outburst yesterday, silencing no one frames him but that isn't what happened and he isn't really a huge force to be reckoned with so silencing his vote makes no real sense unless A) he's scum and the power is scum and they used it to hopefully brush him back under the rug or B) the power is town or neutral in which case there's nothing here but I'm still ok with starting things off with a Nomadic vote with how things have been going so far.
Giant Panda
Member
I'm surprised Dusk isn't scum, he was my top read.
So, working under the assumption that Salva is town (it's possible he isn't), here's how I'd classify the remaining players:
Town
Kawl - Reasoning on day 3 was good, as he was defending Fat. Frustration at the start of today seemed genuine. Gonna need to see some more recent good reads for him to maintain this level for me though.
Verelios - Good reasoning ever since he subbed in.
Neutral
Faddy - We had agreed on many reads, and he has some good points IMO. At this point I'm not confident enough to say he's town though.
Dr. Worm - I'm still inclined to think that he was vote blocked to make Fat look bad. That and his reasoning for trying to lynch Sorian yesterday was so blatantly bad that I don't think scum would try that. Unless of course Dr. Worm is new to mafia, in which case such a bad play is possible, but I don't believe that is the case? Outside of Fat his reads have been lacking.
Nomadic Sparks - It's possible that he's the vote blocker or aligned with the vote blocker. He might have slipped that the vote blocking was a 3-shot (which is why he was so confident about that detail), and is now claiming to be vote blocked when he really isn't in order to cover his tracks. Or it's possible that Nomadic had more than 3 shots but that Salva's roleblock prevented him from hitting someone else. Has been coasting by sheeping others' reads.
Scum
Zeusy
The Wizard
Penguin
I'll do a deeper dive against my 3 scum targets when I get the chance, but I have felt all 3 are coasting on some level, and to this point in the game, coasters have largely been ignored, so if they are scum then their strategy is working.
So, working under the assumption that Salva is town (it's possible he isn't), here's how I'd classify the remaining players:
Town
Kawl - Reasoning on day 3 was good, as he was defending Fat. Frustration at the start of today seemed genuine. Gonna need to see some more recent good reads for him to maintain this level for me though.
Verelios - Good reasoning ever since he subbed in.
Neutral
Faddy - We had agreed on many reads, and he has some good points IMO. At this point I'm not confident enough to say he's town though.
Dr. Worm - I'm still inclined to think that he was vote blocked to make Fat look bad. That and his reasoning for trying to lynch Sorian yesterday was so blatantly bad that I don't think scum would try that. Unless of course Dr. Worm is new to mafia, in which case such a bad play is possible, but I don't believe that is the case? Outside of Fat his reads have been lacking.
Nomadic Sparks - It's possible that he's the vote blocker or aligned with the vote blocker. He might have slipped that the vote blocking was a 3-shot (which is why he was so confident about that detail), and is now claiming to be vote blocked when he really isn't in order to cover his tracks. Or it's possible that Nomadic had more than 3 shots but that Salva's roleblock prevented him from hitting someone else. Has been coasting by sheeping others' reads.
Scum
Zeusy
The Wizard
Penguin
I'll do a deeper dive against my 3 scum targets when I get the chance, but I have felt all 3 are coasting on some level, and to this point in the game, coasters have largely been ignored, so if they are scum then their strategy is working.
Giant Panda
Member
Though I singled out some of coasters as scum, there's I believe there's got to be a talkative scum too. Scum will want to steer discussion, and the higher posting ones will be the ones that accomplish that.
Yes, I'm gonna try to use his reads. Like I said I still don't know where all the votes against him came from in the final hour.
Dusk Soldier
Member
i. Kawl
ii. Worm
iii. Verelios
iv. Nomadic
v. Zeusy
ii. Worm
iii. Verelios
iv. Nomadic
v. Zeusy
This is a scum list?
I'm really trying to understand why they would want to vote block you, not to mention you seem pretty sure they're neutral. Why did you immediately assume a neutral player?
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
DAY 5 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:
Nomadic Sparks (1)
Sorian 1988
No active vote for Day 5: CCS, Dr. Worm, Dusk Soldier, Faddy, Fat4all, Giant Panda, Kawl_USC, Nomadic Sparks, Penguin, SalvaPot, The Wizard, Verelios, Zeusy
Day 5 Postcount: CCS 0, Dr. Worm 0, Dusk Soldier 1, Faddy 1, Fat4all 11, Giant Panda 2, Kawl_USC 7, Nomadic Sparks 3, Penguin 2, SalvaPot 10, Sorian 8, The Wizard 3, Verelios 1, Zeusy 1
Day 5 ends:
Automated vote tally here
8 votes for majority
Nomadic Sparks (1)
Sorian 1988
No active vote for Day 5: CCS, Dr. Worm, Dusk Soldier, Faddy, Fat4all, Giant Panda, Kawl_USC, Nomadic Sparks, Penguin, SalvaPot, The Wizard, Verelios, Zeusy
Day 5 Postcount: CCS 0, Dr. Worm 0, Dusk Soldier 1, Faddy 1, Fat4all 11, Giant Panda 2, Kawl_USC 7, Nomadic Sparks 3, Penguin 2, SalvaPot 10, Sorian 8, The Wizard 3, Verelios 1, Zeusy 1
Day 5 ends:
Automated vote tally here
8 votes for majority
Giant Panda
Member
Are you saying CCS, Fat, Wizard, and Faddy are your top suspects? Two of those are confirmed town.
Can you explain your reasoning for these?
I'm still really dialled in on Zeusy and Kawl.
I'm disappointed acohrs was chosen yesterday since I was neutral on him but it was the Town choice and he could have been scum. We really need to put in a fair bit of effort today and not leave it to some scramble in the last hour.
I'm disappointed acohrs was chosen yesterday since I was neutral on him but it was the Town choice and he could have been scum. We really need to put in a fair bit of effort today and not leave it to some scramble in the last hour.