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[DragonSworne]

I have no problems with violent protests and riots. Not sure why so many people here do.

History has proven riots are part of the course of actions that lead to true change in society.

 

[Speedy Blue Dude]

As a Latino Trump Supporter... Am I glad I don't live in Orange County anymore. Lol.

This entire election is bringing out so many emotions and so many extremes in people, it's kind of entertaining to watch. Least people are passionate enough about their beliefs and their country that they'll do stuff about it. That's cool (although I sincerely don't agree with the violent acts, but meh. Can't control a rowdy and angry crowd, and they justify it with violent protest bringing change, which isn't wrong)

 

[gutter_trash]

I have no problems with violent protests and riots. Not sure why so many people here do.

History has proven riots are part of the course of actions that lead to true change in society.

why not just participate in the primary process and vote?
why not just participate int the general election and actually vote?

Trump is not President. Trump is not a dictator. You can vote AGAINST him without breaking a beer bottle

Just move your butts and vote.

Anyway, he is going to lose in November

Spoiler

Ted Cruz is still worse

 

[Ms.Galaxy]

King might have had an addendum to add to that sentiment when urban black America ate itself in riots after he died, but either way it's kind of tiresome to have everyone on all sides of these debates just keep quoting him like he's scripture.

Not trying to so that, just using him to better explain my position for rioting and violent protest. I can't condemn nor condone it, because I can understand why some may feel justified in doing it, and while I encourage many to go the more peaceful route and try exhausting all peaceful options, I can understand if they feel violence is the only option if those don't work. So again, I'm not surprised if some protesters here went violent because of the shit that happened to previous peaceful protesters in past Trump Rallies. I don't condone throwing rocks at random bystanders though, that's just not right.

 

[Fuchsdh]

I have no problems with violent protests and riots. Not sure why so many people here do.

History has proven riots are part of the course of actions that lead to true change in society.

Because some of us would rather not be the eggs in your omelet.

 

[Ryaaan14]

I have no problems with violent protests and riots. Not sure why so many people here do.

History has proven riots are part of the course of actions that lead to true change in society.

What the hell is going on here lol

 

[Calamari41]

I have no problems with violent protests and riots. Not sure why so many people here do.

History has proven riots are part of the course of actions that lead to true change in society.

Good to know that Trump supporters have your go ahead to start rioting in the pursuit of their interests. You might say that "they're wrong, though." But don't worry, they'll be quick to correct you on that.

 

[MikeHaggar]

I wonder why we have an issue with a candidate teumpting racist ass shit against the Mexican American community and talking about deporting millions of people. Could it be shit like mass deportation in the 30's of legal citizens or shit like operation wetback which again deported legal citizens. Fact is people can't tell an undocumented person from a citizen. So guess what happens? We're all painted with a broad stoke. We already saw that the only thing that matters is our brown skin and we'll be god damned if we have to endure yet another wave of deportation based on our skin color and language.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...-are-3-things-to-know-about-operation-wetback

http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswi...on-may-sound-unlikely-but-its-happened-before

i just asked what the cause of the issue is. i didn't question it or say it's unwarranted...

 

[DragonSworne]

why not just participate in the primary process and vote?
why not just participate int the general election and actually vote?

Trump is not President. Trump is not a dictator. You can vote AGAINST him without breaking a beer bottle

Just move your butts and vote.

Anyway, he is going to lose in November

Because eventually you'll have someone like Trump in the office if people don't protest. Bush got elected and absolutely ruined the country because people in the 90s got apathetic.

It's just that protests become violent over time when peaceful protests exposes injustice in the system that has no relation to how or who we vote for.

 

[rjinaz]

I have no problems with violent protests and riots. Not sure why so many people here do.

History has proven riots are part of the course of actions that lead to true change in society.

Well it's not necessary here, and quite frankly it's damaging to the point. Peaceful protest against Trump and his supporters is far more effective. Right now, he's just a man with a platform.

 

[E92 M3]

What I don't understand is why are they waving the Mexican flag. I wasn't born in this country, but would never wave a flag from my country. In America we have the American flag. I also frown upon people that put flags of other countries near their homes.

I just wish for protests to be peaceful, overall.

 

[Wolfgunblood Garopa]

why not just participate in the primary process and vote?
why not just participate int the general election and actually vote?

Trump is not President. Trump is not a dictator. You can vote AGAINST him without breaking a beer bottle

Just move your butts and vote.

Anyway, he is going to lose in November

He's not just running for President. Have you noticed that Trump has emboldened hate groups? Racists have a publicly acceptable and popular figure to rally their cause around, and they are.

 

[LUFTRAUSER]

I have no problems with violent protests and riots. Not sure why so many people here do.

History has proven riots are part of the course of actions that lead to true change in society.

Like, uh. What the hell is with this mentality? The United States isn't some kind of dictatorship. The primaries haven't even ended! And when they do end you still get to vote in the actual election. "Change in society"? Really? Trump isn't going to be elected. Period. And it's not because of these riots or protests. He just isn't that popular, despite how much his supporters love him. The majority of Americans don't follow politics at all whatsoever and have set opinions that rhetoric will not alter.

You guys are acting like this is some kind of epic struggle for survival when it's literally just an election. Trump's rhetoric is obnoxious but he has a right to say it and people have the right to listen to it.
And you are seriously overestimating how much influence these hate groups have. They are complete losers who are only in the spotlight because the controversy makes for good television.

 

[gutter_trash]

Because eventually you'll have someone like Trump in the office if people don't protest. Bush got elected and absolutely ruined the country because people in the 90s got apathetic.

It's just that protests become violent over time when peaceful protests exposes injustice in the system that has no relation to how or who we vote for.

hahahahhahha have you been keeping up with the news?
he threw 51% of the population under the bus with his stupid comments about Hillary being a woman.

Trump is toast and kept on digging his grave yesterday even more, he's been doubling down daily his comments about ''if Hillary was a man....'' crap

Trump has pissed off Latinos, he has pissed off Women, heck, he even pissed of Republicans.

it's game over

Hillary has this election in the bag

He's not just running for President. Have you noticed that Trump has emboldened hate groups? Racists have a publicly acceptable and popular figure to rally their cause around, and they are.

Let him, he will lose hard. Like Lose big. He will go down in the history books as the biggest loser in a General Election

 

[Chezzymann]

Brb I'm gonna go punch someone I know who is a trump supporter because apparently it's justified now

 

[E92 M3]

Hillary will win the election without the violence and that's what I wish people knew. More importantly, Cruz has no chance.

 

[User1608]

Not trying to so that, just using him to better explain my position for rioting and violent protest. I can't condemn nor condone it, because I can understand why some may feel justified in doing it, and while I encourage many to go the more peaceful route and try exhausting all peaceful options, I can understand if they feel violence is the only option if those don't work. So again, I'm not surprised if some protesters here went violent because of the shit that happened to previous peaceful protesters in past Trump Rallies. I don't condone throwing rocks at random bystanders though, that's just not right.

Same view here, too. Destruction is where I draw the line but I can understand why riots occur. Don't forget, people, Trump supporters have already committed quite a few acts of violence themselves.

It's important to note that this likely wouldn't be happening if Trump and his racist, hateful rhetoric against Hispanics, Muslims and minorities in general weren't given such a wide platform and didn't empower weak, pathetic racists. Why is it up to minorities to try to get racists on their side? Why can't bigots listen to what we say (politicians included), self-reflect and change for the better after so many years?

 

[Crash Station]

I am perfectly comfortable with such philosophy of "ends justify the means", sadly. I am generally a pacifist, but sometimes, there's not another option to get things done as much as it disgusts me. As an activist, I will always seek out the most peaceful solutions, even when I'm physically, verbally and even sexually attacked or assaulted, and I encourage other to do the same but I can understand why people will sooner turn to violence after running out of options.

At what point is attacking innocent people "running out of options"? Why is that even on the list of options in the first place?

 

[DragonSworne]

Like, uh. What the hell is with this mentality? The United States isn't some kind of dictatorship. The primaries haven't even ended! And when they do end you can still vote. "Change in society"? Really? Trump isn't going to be elected. Period. And it's not because of these riots or protests. He just isn't that popular, despite how much his supporters love him.

You guys are acting like this is some kind of epic struggle for survival when it's literally just an election. Trump's rhetoric is obnoxious but he has a right to say it and people have the right to listen to it.

Everyone seems to be missing the point. Trump losing the GE means nothing.

Trump losing in the GE won't change the fact that cops are still arresting the peaceful protestors instead of the rally supporters attacking them. Injustice has been exposed at these rallies. This type of injustice won't go away simply because Trump doesn't get elected.

 

[Wolfgunblood Garopa]

Let him, he will lose hard. Like Lose big. He will go down in the history books as the biggest loser in a General Election

It's not about winning or losing the election. He is emboldening and giving shelter to hate and racism. That influence doesn't care whether or not someone gives him 1st prize in the competition.

 

[Aaronology]

I bet they told MLK and Malcom to vote.

Boy, I sure would love it if people on this forum would stop using MLK and MX like damn pokemon or YuGiOh trap cards. Your response doesn't even make any sense, on top of that.


Edit:

This type of injustice won't go away simply because Trump doesn't get elected.

You know what also won't make it go away? Innocent people and random passersby having rocks thrown at them.

 

[Rembrandt]

Hey everyone, riots are totally unnecessary. Peaceful protests are the only way to protest as time has shown us before. If you cause no harm or annoyance and just yell loud enough and long enough then everybody will see your point.

Being destructive will only cause the racists voting for a racist to become more racist and then your point is defeated but being peaceful will cause the racists at a racists rally to see the error of their ways and vote for Hillary?

Basically, just protest in a way that we can all ignore it without a problem.

 

[Zeke]

i just asked what the cause of the issue is. i didn't question it or say it's unwarranted...

That is the issue. We have been neglected, discriminated against, lynched, murdered, refused education, segregated. Trump is the embodiment of everything our people fought against and we won't sit by while he and his white nationalist friends try and take us back to the Jim crow era. I apologize if my last post came off as attacking you that wasn't my intention.

 

[Ms.Galaxy]

What I don't understand is why are they waving the Mexican flag. I wasn't born in this country, but would never wave a flag from my country. In America we have the American flag. I also frown upon people that put flags of other countries near their homes.

I just wish for protests to be peaceful, overall.

Honestly, I don't see that being that bad. There's nothing wrong with being proud of your nationality and homeland. Why, I love my country of Portugal, I have plenty of things with the nation's flag and symbol on it. At the same time, I like this nation as well, it's been my home for nearly 18 years and I carry stuff with it's national symbols too. I'm proud to be Portuguese and American, and I refuse to give up one for the other.

 

[E92 M3]

Hey everyone, riots are totally unnecessary. Peaceful protests are the only way to protest as time has shown us before. If you cause no harm or annoyance and just yell loud enough and long enough then everybody will see your point.

Being destructive will only cause the racists voting for a racist to become more racist and then your point is defeated but being peaceful will cause the racists at a racists rally to see the error of their ways and vote for Hillary?

Basically, just protest in a way that we can all ignore it without a problem.

I know you're being sardonic, but there is absolutely ZERO justification for throwing rocks at moving vehicles.

Honestly, I don't see that being that bad. There's nothing wrong with being proud of your nationality and homeland. Why, I love my country of Portugal, I have plenty of things with the nation's flag and symbol on it. At the same time, I like this nation as well, it's been my home for nearly 18 years and I carry stuff with it's national symbols too. I'm proud to be Portuguese and American, and I refuse to give up one for the other.

Yeah, it's okay to not forget the homeland, but I just get tired of people putting down America yet living here. Yeah, this country is flawed and not perfect, but doesn't mean many of us are not blessed to be living here.

 

[Dai101]

It's the Cuban effect. "we got mine and we are the desirable ones"

There are lots of Latino republicans.

A lot of them also entered the US illegally, wishing that immigration were over after they entered the country.

 

[Aaronology]

Hey everyone, riots are totally unnecessary. Peaceful protests are the only way to protest as time has shown us before. If you cause no harm or annoyance and just yell loud enough and long enough then everybody will see your point.

Being destructive will only cause the racists voting for a racist to become more racist and then your point is defeated but being peaceful will cause the racists at a racists rally to see the error of their ways and vote for Hillary?

Basically, just protest in a way that we can all ignore it without a problem.

Let's be clear here: You are advocating injuring and potentially killing people, innocent or otherwise, to further a political cause and catalyze change. You know there are words for people who do that...

 

[Cagey]

Hey everyone, riots are totally unnecessary. Peaceful protests are the only way to protest as time has shown us before. If you cause no harm or annoyance and just yell loud enough and long enough then everybody will see your point.

Being destructive will only cause the racists voting for a racist to become more racist and then your point is defeated but being peaceful will cause the racists at a racists rally to see the error of their ways and vote for Hillary?

Basically, just protest in a way that we can all ignore it without a problem.

For you, is there a list of conduct that isn't acceptable as a form of protest or resistance, and if so, what is on that list?

 

[Christopher]

Hey everyone, riots are totally unnecessary. Peaceful protests are the only way to protest as time has shown us before. If you cause no harm or annoyance and just yell loud enough and long enough then everybody will see your point.

Being destructive will only cause the racists voting for a racist to become more racist and then your point is defeated but being peaceful will cause the racists at a racists rally to see the error of their ways and vote for Hillary?

Basically, just protest in a way that we can all ignore it without a problem.

No let's destroy people's shit who had nothing to do with it - that will really sell our cause and get people to empathize with us!

 

[The Silver]

Unfortunately violence and riots will always be a factor as history has proven that that's the one language marginalized groups know the people in power can't ignore or downplay.

What you need is real leadership in the community to re-direct the energy that would lead to riots into a peaceful(but still "militant") protest.

 

[BalishChannel]

Bullshit. Regardless of any action taken by his opposition, Trump will say what he wants and have his supporters no matter what.

Let's just get this straight. There is no such thing as violence against property. If you believe there is, you're the one playing into the hands of criminal elements of society: the nobility who put rhetoric over reality. The fact of the matter is that Trump advocates violence against people, most notably women and people of color, and if you aren't going to do anything to challenge that rhetoric, you probably shouldn't criticize the only social movements with the balls to do anything about it. Riot is a legitimate form of protest for the disenfranchised and the powerless and sometimes property destruction is a symptom of this. And these ain't sports hooligans. This is a life or death situation for some people. Can you blame folks for acting out?

I was there. I saw people taking charge of their city. Tagging the fairgrounds sign with anti-Trump slogans. Climbing traffic lights and tagging those. Taking the streets. Blocking the intersections. Trying to take the freeway. Black folks, white folks, latin@s, muslims, feminists, the queer community, anarchists, communists, and progressives were all out actually trying to send a message to these scumbags. There was a unity there. And it was amazing.

Why can I log onto NeoGAF and expect responses like this from a sizable portion of its users?

 

[Rembrandt]

Let's be clear here: You are advocating injuring and potentially killing people, innocent or otherwise, to further a political cause and catalyze change. You know there are words for people who do that...

Nobody was injured or killed. I don't think anyone was killed during the Baltimore riots either, so.

For you, is there a list of conduct that isn't acceptable as a form of protest or resistance, and if so, what is on that list?

Murder, rape and the such.

No let's destroy people's shit who had nothing to do with it - that will really sell our cause and get people to empathize with us!

Made me with empathize with them. No rational person sees this and says "wow, I wasn't voting for Trump before but I definitely am now because fuck these latinos"

 

[Kinyou]

I have no problems with violent protests and riots. Not sure why so many people here do.

History has proven riots are part of the course of actions that lead to true change in society.

I mean it's all cool until the side you don't like starts doiing it as well.

 

[otakukidd]

Nobody was injured or killed. I don't think anyone was killed during the Baltimore riots either, so.



Murder.



Made me with empathize with them. No rational person sees this and says "wow, I wasn't voting for Trump before but I definitely am now because fuck these latinos"

But there is a thing of voting left to not voting at all.

 

[Raitosaito]

As a Latino Trump Supporter... Am I glad I don't live in Orange County anymore. Lol.

This entire election is bringing out so many emotions and so many extremes in people, it's kind of entertaining to watch. Least people are passionate enough about their beliefs and their country that they'll do stuff about it. That's cool (although I sincerely don't agree with the violent acts, but meh. Can't control a rowdy and angry crowd, and they justify it with violent protest bringing change, which isn't wrong)

This does not compute

 

[LUFTRAUSER]

Made me with empathize with them. No rational person sees this and says "wow, I wasn't voting for Trump before but I definitely am now because fuck these latinos"

A huge part of Trump's popularity is people doing exactly that. A lot of his supporters normally don't even vote at all. Why are you trying to bring what a "rational" person would do into this? This is politics. It's not rational. It's a fucking mess. Violence does not breed empathy. It never has. It only begets more violence.

 

[DragonSworne]

Unfortunately violence and riots will always be a factor as history has proven that that's the one language marginalized groups know the people in power can't ignore or downplay.

What you need is real leadership in the community to re-direct the energy that would lead to riots into a peaceful(but still "militant") protest.

100% this. A successful protest is a protest that can show strength. And strength can be shown without violence.

Unfortunately, the peaceful protests that have occurred so far are weak. Having a single protester get escorted out of a rally is a sign of weakens and only emboldens the people at the rallies.

 

[johnsmith]

This does not compute

He's one of the good ones, obvy

 

[shintoki]

Here is the thing about violence. It can honestly be the quickest course of action. Do you know how much change would be done overnight if politicians, bankers, crooked cops, and people like Trump knew they didn't have the government protecting them? And I mean in the sense that the courts would actual convict them, where the law would apply to them too?

Replaced that now with the fear of 350million people willing to tear them limb from limb. The largest problems is that you know even after the Wall Street crash, no one was punished. They have no accountability for their actions. The quickest way to restore that... would also be the bloodiest.

The problem with violence is also what it leads to and what it can turn into. The French Revolution started on the right ideals... but we all know how that turned it. It basically resulted in a decade of bloodshed, followed by 20 more years. Rather than targeting the people who were oppressing the people, it turned into a grab for power between officials. Mostly going by mob rule.

I'm against violent protests, but at the same time I can't sit here and condemn them either. You can't sit there and tell people to keep getting killed by cops and hopefully change will come.

 

[Crash Station]

Murder, rape and the such.

So burning down the business of someone who was not even against your cause, leaving them with nothing but depression and suicidal tendencies until they finally end it all 5 years later is perfectly fine by you?

 

[Rembrandt]

But there is a thing of voting left to not voting at all.

Stop acting like these people won't vote just because they did this. It's condescending.

A huge part of Trump's popularity is people doing exactly that. Why are you trying to bring what a "rational" person would do into this? This is politics. It's not rational. It's a fucking mess.

A huge portion has came from his overall hateful speech towards him, his reactions to peaceful protesters, him getting on TV and saying he would pay the lawyer fees of the guy who punched a peaceful protester, etc.

So burning down the business of someone who was not against your cause, leaving them with nothing but depression and suicidal tendencies until they finally end it all 5 years later is perfectly fine by you?

Lol, yeah, just like I'm for blocking traffic causing a father to miss his daughter's heart surgery that doesn't work so he couldn't say goodbye causing a spiral of depression.

 

[rjinaz]

100% this. A successful protest is a protest that can show strength. And strength can be shown without violence.

Unfortunately, the peaceful protests that have occurred so far are weak. Having a single protester get escorted out of a rally is a sign of weakens and only emboldens the people at the rallies.

I don't know I thought the Chicago protests were pretty memorable. They even scared away Trump, so much so that he lied and said he was told to call it off. While some scuffles occured it was mostly peaceful.

 

[ChosenPredator]

Trump protestors seem to be violent i can just imagine the combination of supporters and those protestors colliding, yikes.

 

[Crash Station]

Lol, yeah, just like I'm for blocking traffic causing a father to miss his daughter's heart surgery that doesn't work so he couldn't say goodbye causing a spiral of depression.

Is that a yes or no? I can't speak for the traffic thing because I don't know the frequency of which it happens, but the building thing has happened.

People seem to abandon all empathy when it comes to individual cases in scenarios like these. You can call the end result good and still call out the methods that did harm innocent people to get to that result. Downplaying those events doesn't make you look like a nice person.

 

[Ms.Galaxy]

At what point is attacking innocent people "running out of options"? Why is that even on the list of options in the first place?

It's not. It's an unfortunate effect of the final option, which is to dismantle and disrupt the city's infrastructure heavily. The main goal at that point is to cause a lot of costly damage that leaves an imprint to those in power that the people refuse to take this anymore.

 

[GloriousBagel]

Funny how people are defending these rioting goons. These kids were there just for fun, those kids don't care about voting or social change. Look at pictures of the 'protest', there were all punk kids. After last night I'm even more ashamed of my own people, so ignorant.

On a related note, there was a lone dude sitting at a table of the buffet I work at yesterday, lots of Hispanic, Muslims and Vietnamese people eat there. This dude, in his 'Make America Great Again' hat started to harass this Muslim lady that was eating with her two daughters. Our manager asked him to leave her alone, and he wouldn't stop, so he told him to leave. As the manager escorted him, he started yelling slurs at the lady, then turned around punched my manager in the balls. Cops came and my manager didn't press charges. Idiot.

Point is, Trump is giving racists the courage to out themselves in public, and it's only going to get worse.

 

[LUFTRAUSER]

Here is the thing about violence. It can honestly be the quickest course of action. Do you know how much change would be done overnight if politicians, bankers, crooked cops, and people like Trump knew they didn't have the government protecting them? And I mean in the sense that the courts would actual convict them, where the law would apply to them too?

Replaced that now with the fear of 350million people willing to tear them limb from limb. The largest problems is that you know even after the Wall Street crash, no one was punished. They have no accountability for their actions. The quickest way to restore that... would also be the bloodiest.

The problem with violence is also what it leads to and what it can turn into. The French Revolution started on the right ideals... but we all know how that turned it. It basically resulted in a decade of bloodshed, followed by 20 more years. Rather than targeting the people who were oppressing the people, it turned into a grab for power between officials. Mostly going by mob rule.

I'm against violent protests, but at the same time I can't sit here and condemn them either. You can't sit there and tell people to keep getting killed by cops and hopefully change will come.

Do you not realize that to a lot of people, you are the rich one? That the cops protect you too? If there was some kind of societal breakdown, these wealthy people would be protected in their compounds or otherwise have the means to escape. Look at Syria. They hated their elites, sought to overthrow Assad, and now look? It's a fucking mess. Sure, the wealthier Syrians can just flee to Europe, but everyone else? They're fucked.

It always starts like this. You have people that think a little violence here or there can solve things quickly. I mean, we're the good guys, right? It's OK when we do it? It's not OK. It's never OK.

Funny how people are defending these rioting goons. These kids were there just for fun, those kids don't care about voting or social change. Look at pictures of the 'protest', there were all punk kids. After last night I'm even more ashamed of my own people, so ignorant.

On a related note, there was a lone dude sitting at a table of the buffet I work at yesterday, lots of Hispanic, Muslims and Vietnamese people eat there. This dude, in his 'Make America Great Again' hat started to harass this Muslim lady that was eating with her two daughters. Our manager asked him to leave him alone, and he wouldn't stop, so he told him to leave. As the manager escorted him, he started yelling slurs at the lady, then turned around punched my manager in the balls. Cops came and my manager didn't press charges. Idiot.

Point is, Trump is giving racists the courage to out themselves in public, and it's only going to get worse.

That's the thing though. He was alone. These sorts of people do not have friends. They often do not have close connections. That's why they are vulnerable to Trump's rhetoric. I don't think it is going to get worse because as soon as Trump is out of the news cycle they won't have anything left to hold them together and they will slink back into the background. Why your manager didn't press charges over that incident though is beyond me.

 

[Rembrandt]

Is that a yes or no? I can't speak for the traffic thing because I don't know the frequency of which it happens, but the building thing has happened.

People seem to abandon all empathy when it comes to individual cases in scenarios like these. You can call the end result good and still call out the methods that did harm innocent people to get to that result. Downplaying those events doesn't make you look like a nice person.

Link.

But yeah, I'm actually still for it in some cases, tbh. Depends but i wouldn't entirely rule it out.

 

[Wolfgunblood Garopa]

Funny how people are defending these rioting goons. These kids were there just for fun, those kids don't care about voting or social change. Look at pictures of the 'protest', there were all punk kids. After last night I'm even more ashamed of my own people, so ignorant.

On a related note, there was a lone dude sitting at a table of the buffet I work at yesterday, lots of Hispanic, Muslims and Vietnamese people eat there. This dude, in his 'Make America Great Again' hat started to harass this Muslim lady that was eating with her two daughters. Our manager asked him to leave him alone, and he wouldn't stop, so he told him to leave. As the manager escorted him, he started yelling slurs at the lady, then turned around punched my manager in the balls. Cops came and my manager didn't press charges. Idiot.

Point is, Trump is giving racists the courage to out themselves in public, and it's only going to get worse.

Damn, that's awful. The election is chickenshit compared to the lasting damage a fool like Trump can do the the country. Of course he's going to lose, the election is ridiculous. It's about the people that have to suffer Trump's supporters for however long after Trump is back in his penthouse sitting around watching 'the shows' and tweeting about Hillary's emails all day or some shit.

 

[perfectchaos007]

This does not compute

Probably because he's a legal Mexican and is in no danger of being deported under Trump?