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Risen | Official Thread (PC/PC/PC/360) -- RPG from Gothic creators
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BeeDog said:
I totally agree. And while the animations can be pretty horrible and the combat can be quite frustrating in the beginning, I find the combat in Risen to be far more entertaining and satisfying. The combat in The Witcher was a snorefest for me. There were some really cool animations that made Geralt look pretty badass, but damn if it didn't get boring fast. Luckily the story and interesting NPCs and environments more than made up for it and kept me playing until the end.
Stuggernaut
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I'm downloading the PC demo right now.
I assume that this will not be a PS3 game ever?
I assume that this will not be a PS3 game ever?
Joseph Merrick
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can't just get it from gamersgate/steam?G_Berry said:
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Sinatar said:
Judging by the picture that introduces Chapter 4 I had a feeling the end boss would be pretty lame. Chapter 4 spoiler:
I still have two more priest temples to complete, but is the titan really just a giant ashbeast
Sorry for asking since I know theres a demo, but the gamepad I ordered is still on the way so I cant test it for myself, is there 360 controller support and if so, is it any good on the pc?
Parts for my new htpc are coming later this week and I'm tempted to pick this up as the inaugural run if it's comfy couch certified TM.
Parts for my new htpc are coming later this week and I'm tempted to pick this up as the inaugural run if it's comfy couch certified TM.
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vesp said:
There is no native support for the controller unfortunately. Somewhere back in the thread someone posted a configuration that is supposed to be pretty good, but you might need some 3rd party software like Xpadder to get it to work.
Also, even though it is a Games for Windows title and has a built-in 1000 point-based achievement system, it does not support Microsoft Gamer Profiles so you can't boost your Gamerscore.
Usually not. Those have region restrictions. We can't get Civ IV from either for example.Joseph Merrick said:
Just do what I've done and order from these guys: http://www.cdwow.com.au/games/PC/RISEN/dp/6088555
Seeing as I shill them way too much, 365games.co.uk or similar sites should also ship it to you.
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FuKuy said:
I would never want to play it with the controller, but I'm sure they could have come up with some kind of scheme to make it work for those who do.
Thanks for clearing up the difference between GFW and GFWL. I guess I just assumed they were one and the same.
HOLY SHIT, this game is so awesome. The combat system is genius, and that's because it's hard and realistic. Yesterday i was fighting 3 or 4 wolves and thought to myself, this is exactly how it would go irl. They taunt you, test your strength, circle around to get behind you and they are agile and dodge attacks. In the beginning they rape you, later you get a shield, learn their attacks and movement and they become easy.
I had a fight with an undead lord, it was EPIC. A 10 min fight of pure matching skills. It feels incredible to dodge an attack right, suddenly standing behind the mob and throwing a combo in his back. No button mashing but all about timing and reaction. The exploration and sense of real growth make this one hell of an experience. Can't wait to see what the game throws at me next.
I had a fight with an undead lord, it was EPIC. A 10 min fight of pure matching skills. It feels incredible to dodge an attack right, suddenly standing behind the mob and throwing a combo in his back. No button mashing but all about timing and reaction. The exploration and sense of real growth make this one hell of an experience. Can't wait to see what the game throws at me next.
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Sleeker said:
Found some pieces of info.
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Guess that picture may mean something to someone with a multi-core system, really doesn't do much for me. But one review is saying it uses 2 cores (somewhat effectively), and another is saying 2-3. Either way it definitely doesn't use all 4 of a quadcore system.
I'm happy that the general feeling towards the battle system seems to change a bit, I'm really enjoying it as well.
One small thing I really like is that NPCs that ask you to follow them actually run. I hate it in many RPGs (including the Witcher) when NPCs you're supposed to follow walk at a glacial pace.
One small thing I really like is that NPCs that ask you to follow them actually run. I hate it in many RPGs (including the Witcher) when NPCs you're supposed to follow walk at a glacial pace.
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DennisK4 said:
Now that I am almost at the end of the game I think the combat is actually pretty good. It is very similar to games like Monster Hunter and Demon's Souls where you can get killed in a couple of hits easily if you don't know what you are doing, but you can dominate once you learn how to time attacks appropriately for each enemy type. I think it is just the awful animations that make the combat look so bad. If they polished it up a bit I think a lot more people would praise the combat.
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Sleeker said:
It was only like 2006 or 2007 when the majority of games being released were actually developed to fully support dual cores. I think it will be a few more years before processors with 4 or more cores become the standard.
Zefah said:
The majority of high end laptops are still dual core too, so it is unlikely that optimization for 4 cores will become standard any time soon.
Yesterday I decided to just do some exploration. Next thing I knew it was 4 hours later and I hadn't progressed any further in a quest line. That is a good thing. The combat is also definitely growing on me. It seems like it is all about positioning as many fights involve multipe enemies. It is vital that you maintain a position where only one enemy can attack you at a time.
Hmm,
I was going to buy this on Steam, but I may hold out for the superior PS3 port. Thanks for the picture.
Really though, after playing the demo, and reading all the comments on here, I'm gonna have to buy this.
Damnit, this was an unexpected game to land on the radar. The only thing holding me back, is Fallout 3 GOTY coming out next week.
I was going to buy this on Steam, but I may hold out for the superior PS3 port. Thanks for the picture.
Really though, after playing the demo, and reading all the comments on here, I'm gonna have to buy this.
Damnit, this was an unexpected game to land on the radar. The only thing holding me back, is Fallout 3 GOTY coming out next week.Having only ever played Gothic 3 I was a little wary on buying this but i'm glad I gave in and bought it Having a lot of fun and it isnt a buggy mess like G3 was.
Just had an epic battle with a Thunder Lizard while I was exploring off the path towards Harbor town...well I say epic, I just jumped on a rock so it couldnt reach me and shot it full of arrows and bolts for 20 minutes
Having a lot of fun and it isnt a buggy mess like G3 was.Just had an epic battle with a Thunder Lizard while I was exploring off the path towards Harbor town...well I say epic, I just jumped on a rock so it couldnt reach me and shot it full of arrows and bolts for 20 minutes
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I just finished the game at lvl 26! What a fantastic game! The final encounter is pretty lame and the ending is a bit abrupt, but they are obviously leaving it open for an expansion or a sequel which I hope they are already working on because I could really go for some more Risen! I'm almost debating starting up a new game right now and going the mage route which I'm sure will be quite a bit more difficult in many parts of the game.
FuKuy said:
There's absolutely nothing, anywhere in the controls, that prevents it from working very comfortably on a pad, and its unfortunate they don't support it natively.
Simple movement, one interact and one cancel button, a small number of hot 'keys', and that's about it. Even the inventory would be fine, as though its grid based, you rarely have to interact with it much outside of shops, where pad selection would be fine.
Hell, the combat would probably feel more natural on a pad.
Hmm... now I'm tempted to try out xpadder and make a profile for my ps3 or 360 controller :lol
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Sinatar said:
Well the ending is only 5-20 mins of the game...so as long as most of the game is good, I will have had my fun factor.
I love that this game doesn't employ all the "magic" others often use to limit what you can do. For example, there is no guard summon or instant anti-crime network. When I needed to get past a guard into a cell, the game steered me to some options (e.g. bribe him or send him a prostitute), but I could also simply get behind him and knock him out -- since I saw that no one else was around I judged that the most prudent action. This netted me not just the key but also his belongings.
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Alright so I finally did all the missions in the swamp and got to see the leader of the bandits. Heading to Harbor town next!
Though I got really pissed earlier due to my own actions. I was going for the last peice of the golden sword... It was the one with the dude in the caves. I went there and low and behold, a ton of those moth creatures were in the caves. So I carefully take them all out, barely surviving but I did it. I was victorious. I was like damn... better save this. I quickly go to hit F8 for quicksave and like a fool hit f9 for quick load. I screamed "FUCKKKK!". So once it loaded me back at that cave with all the enemies in place I just said fuck it and ran to the body and then ran out. :lol
Though I got really pissed earlier due to my own actions. I was going for the last peice of the golden sword... It was the one with the dude in the caves. I went there and low and behold, a ton of those moth creatures were in the caves. So I carefully take them all out, barely surviving but I did it. I was victorious. I was like damn... better save this. I quickly go to hit F8 for quicksave and like a fool hit f9 for quick load. I screamed "FUCKKKK!". So once it loaded me back at that cave with all the enemies in place I just said fuck it and ran to the body and then ran out. :lol
brain_stew
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Risen tweak guide here:
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,...-graphics-and-start-the-game-faster/Practice/
Get the game to launch faster, enable AA, and increase the draw distance and shadow resolution.
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,...-graphics-and-start-the-game-faster/Practice/
Get the game to launch faster, enable AA, and increase the draw distance and shadow resolution.
The Eurogamer review set me aback but yesterday I tried the demo on Steam and quite liked it despite some rough edges. I was thinking of buying the Steam version but I've got a lot of other games in the back catalogue so... wait what's this? A beautiful Collector's Edition?
Does it have some kind of protection system, like Securom whatever?
Better yet, can I buy the CE and use a key to register it on Steam (a la Dawn of War 2)?
Does it have some kind of protection system, like Securom whatever?
Better yet, can I buy the CE and use a key to register it on Steam (a la Dawn of War 2)?
I just got the "Idiot" achievement :lol
By the way, I often thought when playing the game that it seemed to have screen space ambient occlusion (SSAO), and I just read that I'm actually right. I think this (and the god rays) is a large part of what makes the lighting feel so Crysis-like. It just gives everything more substance.
By the way, I often thought when playing the game that it seemed to have screen space ambient occlusion (SSAO), and I just read that I'm actually right. I think this (and the god rays) is a large part of what makes the lighting feel so Crysis-like. It just gives everything more substance.
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brain_stew said:
Thanks for the link. The quick load and save are right next to each other on my keyboard and have already tripped me up once.
Edit: UT3.exe gave me strange AA issues with a glowing white gradient extending from the left and top of the screen. ghost_w32.exe still seems to be the winner for my 4870x2.
I was hoping I'd get to start this today, but ended up house sitting for someone with just my laptop. Guess I'll play through Gothic 2 this week instead. I've been considering going with the retail package over steam for Risen, is the soundtrack worth the wait to get it shipped to me? Doesn't look like anywhere local will stock it.
brain_stew
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Durante said:
I'd go so far as to say its the best implementation of SSAO I've seen, its really high quality and without the usual artefacts and adds so much depth to the scene. Add that to the God rays, the full FP16 precision and the fully dynamic nature of the lighting and its no wonder it looks so good. Crysis really is its only worthy competitor in terms of lighting quality.
Well, to be fair there are some of the telltale artifacts if you know where to look, that's what made me so certain it was SSAObrain_stew said:
. But of course the positive effect on the overall picture far outweighs the small drawbacks. Both the SSAO implementation and their shadow mapping algorithm seem to use some kind of stochastic sampling which produces a very natural (if slightly grainy) look without too much performance impact. It's really well done. (And I'm quite sure they could improve performance further by using compute shaders for the post-processing)
brain_stew
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Durante said:Well, to be fair there are some of the telltale artifacts if you know where to look, that's what made me so certain it was SSAO
Both the SSAO implementation and their shadow mapping algorithm seem to use some kind of stochastic sampling which produces a very natural (if slightly grainy) look without too much performance impact. It's really well done. (And I'm quite sure they could improve performance further by using compute shaders for the post-processing)
I worded that poorly, the artefacts are still there, but not not anywhere near to the same degree as in most games that use SSAO. Compare it to the SSAO in Batman: AA and the difference is night and day.