Roblox bans and threatens to sue “predator hunter” YouTuber Schlep


Imagine trying to sue someone for doing good. Seems like the people working at Roblox and their lawyers need to have their hard drives checked. But anyway, i'm totally glad that there hasn't been any situation on Roblox that Schelp was trying avoi......


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I fear for my kids growing up. This world is too into protecting the pedophiles while vilifying anyone standing up to it.
Whether it's Epstein who apparently got kids for no one or "minor attracted persons" or showing kids sexual content. etc.
 
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Roblox never beating the Pedo Paradise allegations.
I monitor my son playing this everytime. Have maximum child protection policy turned on for the game, and do not let him use a headset.

He can't friend anyone. Decline all requests, only play games you can't chat in like writing on a sign, and he knows if he tries to talk to anyone on it he gets perma banned from it.

Has worked so far!

It's hard … parenting. It's like you have to give a shit.
 
I monitor my son playing this everytime. Have maximum child protection policy turned on for the game, and do not let him use a headset.

He can't friend anyone. Decline all requests, only play games you can't chat in like writing on a sign, and he knows if he tries to talk to anyone on it he gets perma banned from it.

Has worked so far!

It's hard … parenting. It's like you have to give a shit.

I am just now letting my son play FortNite, because his friends play it. But I'm the same -- not talking to anyone who's NOT friends, he's basically playing on my account, so I have to approve any friend requests or whatever. But yeah -- you have to be on top of it (not claiming I always am.)
 
I am just now letting my son play FortNite, because his friends play it. But I'm the same -- not talking to anyone who's NOT friends, he's basically playing on my account, so I have to approve any friend requests or whatever. But yeah -- you have to be on top of it (not claiming I always am.)
Don't be hard on yourself, you're doing much more than most parents.
 
You have to be on your kids like crazy when it comes to this stuff. They can't have PCs, phones or anything in their room. Hell I'd go as far as saying you shouldn't let them have anything that can connect to the internet in their room.

We don't let my son talk to anyone online we've blocked all communication. I feel bad cause I know how much he wants to play and talk with other kids. He got a taste of it once and his eyes just lit up. I verified it was a kid and since my wife wasn't home I let him finish playing with the kid. Next day we shut it all down.

Once he wants to play games with his friends from school we will see about letting him talk to them but we will cross that bridge when we get to it. It will only be friends from school though. These days with AI you could have some grown man using an AI childs voice to trick parents into thinking he's a kid.
 
I monitor my son playing this everytime. Have maximum child protection policy turned on for the game, and do not let him use a headset.

He can't friend anyone. Decline all requests, only play games you can't chat in like writing on a sign, and he knows if he tries to talk to anyone on it he gets perma banned from it.

Has worked so far!

It's hard … parenting. It's like you have to give a shit.


The fact that the game is so unsafe for kids that all these measures are necessary in the first place just so the kid can play a game is pretty damning on how bad of a platform Roblox is.

People coming after kids should be executed in the town square without hesitation.
 
The fact that the game is so unsafe for kids that all these measures are necessary in the first place just so the kid can play a game is pretty damning on how bad of a platform Roblox is.

People coming after kids should be executed in the town square without hesitation.

Yea this is why I haven't even downloaded the game for my son. He will see it and make some mention of it but wont ask me to get it. He's having plenty of fun with Fall guys, stumble guys, and rocket league. He also does some SP games every now and then. I was surprised to see him playing through and beating several of the lego star wars games.
 
I monitor my son playing this everytime. Have maximum child protection policy turned on for the game, and do not let him use a headset.

He can't friend anyone. Decline all requests, only play games you can't chat in like writing on a sign, and he knows if he tries to talk to anyone on it he gets perma banned from it.

Has worked so far!

It's hard … parenting. It's like you have to give a shit.
My lazy bro left his credit card on file and his kid racked up something like $1,000 of charges.

But Roblox is easy for refunds. No questions asked. They knows they got dumbass kids playing the game so shit happens.

Worst part was when my lazy bro told us the story, he didnt even bother taking off his credit card after. He just assumed it wont happen again after yelling at his kid.

That's some rock solid parenting skills there. lol. Same parents who let their kids overrun the dinner table with cellphones and tablet usage.

(Edit: I forgot. One time they put their foots down and punished the kids by hiding the tablet. Sounds reasonable right? Ya. Problem is one day I popped by and asked where the tablet is, mom hid it and forgot where she put it. it didnt turn up for months until one day I guess someone found it. Another brownie pt for model parenting skills)
 
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The fact that the game is so unsafe for kids that all these measures are necessary in the first place just so the kid can play a game is pretty damning on how bad of a platform Roblox is.

People coming after kids should be executed in the town square without hesitation.
Not wrong but the reality is I shouldn't have been playing WoW, EQ, or ffxi as a 6th grader. I shouldn't have played mortal kombat when I was in 1st grade. I shouldn't have been allowed to bicycle to the other side of town until dusk. I shouldn't have been able to play gears or CoD on Xbox as an adolescent hearing this much racism.

My parents were 100% checked out and I got lucky. The environment hasn't changed it's always been dangerous, it's just now predators know where to channel their efforts more.

All the kids his age play. I'm not going to decline him friendship over something I can easily negate all risk from by just being his parent. Never tell anyone your real name online, or address, or where you go to school, nothing etc. He gets it.

Can Roblox do more? Absolutely. I'd like it for games to not have the ability to chat even with signs they write on. I'd like for a feature for no social games except friends invite only.

Ultimately it's up to the parent though.
 
The fact that the game is so unsafe for kids that all these measures are necessary in the first place just so the kid can play a game is pretty damning on how bad of a platform Roblox is.
Yeah, that's an extreme way to play something that's supposed to be fun.

Thankfully mine and me tried it and we both said it was utter dog water, went back to Minecraft.

To have a game like this where you have to be ever present, and has this amount of degeneracy, just wouldn't have been entertained if im honest.

They'll live without it.
 
I monitor my son playing this everytime. Have maximum child protection policy turned on for the game, and do not let him use a headset.

He can't friend anyone. Decline all requests, only play games you can't chat in like writing on a sign, and he knows if he tries to talk to anyone on it he gets perma banned from it.

Has worked so far!

It's hard … parenting. It's like you have to give a shit.
Thank you for giving a shit, your son will appreciate it when he's older.
 
This is crazy. I think the parents should have paid more attention. But there seems to be some culpability on the company too. Parental controls help, My son cannot add anyone on XBOX or Fortnite. I have to add them.
 
Yeah, that's an extreme way to play something that's supposed to be fun.

Thankfully mine and me tried it and we both said it was utter dog water, went back to Minecraft.

To have a game like this where you have to be ever present, and has this amount of degeneracy, just wouldn't have been entertained if im honest.

They'll live without it.
It legit has some great games within it. The community makes some truly clever and funny stuff.

I personally like the platformer levels people cook up.

My son's second favorite is Minecraft. After that he likes the Spider-Man games the most. I had to play through all of them to insure it was ok. Aside from Spider-Man 2 venom fucking up that one guys head, it's all within reason to what I played growing up.

It's tough. Their generation really isn't into Nintendo games. My son just beat odyssey though which was a "oh thank God" moment there's still hope for him yet. He also is 70% through Bananza, and enjoys Astro bot too albeit not as much. Mario kart is "ok". He's also enjoyed on trophy chasing on mascot thriller games, and rocket league. Fortnite he only likes the Lego and custom odd games not the actual BR.

Need to put doom eternal in front of him and man him up.

He turns 8 end of month. No more being a pussy little one.
 
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If i had kids now i knew what game dont let them play without supervision.
 
I used to work in the law enforcement in the dept/team that specifically handled CSAM/underage crimes and I mostly agree what Roblox did.

These vigilantes/pedo hunters often put videos on YouTube boasting how they did it, saved children and put the criminals in jail, this is cool in social media but unfortunately horrible in real world. Law enforcement/police will be actively tracking the suspects and building a strong case just for a basement vigilante to derail much of it.

Court battles aren't fought through YT videos and exploits/posts, you need a clear case and strong evidence and catching a criminal but only for the judge to acquit the criminal is one of the worst feeling for the police/detectives/the team. Years or months of work down the drain.

Unless you're in the force, I request not to do shit like this as it's infuriating but please if you want to fight, please, please join officially. DO NOT DO THIS ON YOUR OWN.
 
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I used to work for in the law enforcement in the dept/team that specifically handled CSAM/underage crimes and I mostly agree what Roblox did.

These vigilantes/pedo hunters often put videos on YouTube boasting how they did it, saved children and put the criminals in jail, this is cool in social media but unfortunately horrible in real world. Law enforcement/police will be actively tracking the suspects and building a strong case just for a basement vigilante to derail much of it.

Court battles aren't fought through YT videos and exploits/posts, you need a clear case and strong evidence and catching a criminal but only for the judge to acquit the criminal is one of the worst feeling for the police/detectives/the team. Years or months of work down the drain.

Unless you're in the force, I request not to do shit like this as it's infuriating but please if you want to fight, please, please join officially. DO NOT DO THIS ON YOUR OWN.
All things being equal that makes sense but it seems that Roblox does exactly fuck all about fighting the problem on their platform. Plenty of tools there to report issues which then disappear into the void. They don't even seem to ban the accounts of people convicted of child grooming/sex crimes. No wonder people are motivated to take things into their own hands.
 
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The fact that the game is so unsafe for kids that all these measures are necessary in the first place just so the kid can play a game is pretty damning on how bad of a platform Roblox is.

People coming after kids should be executed in the town square without hesitation.
I honestly don't know much about Roblox beyond these occasional stories I hear - but it's not exclusive to Roblox. Roblox is not responsible for parenting your child - it's the internet in general that is dangerous, particularly unmonitored and unrestricted access with young children. This, combined with negligent and derelict parents, creates these problems.
 
It legit has some great games within it. The community makes some truly clever and funny stuff.

I personally like the platformer levels people cook up.

My son's second favorite is Minecraft. After that he likes the Spider-Man games the most. I had to play through all of them to insure it was ok. Aside from Spider-Man 2 venom fucking up that one guys head, it's all within reason to what I played growing up.

It's tough. Their generation really isn't into Nintendo games. My son just beat odyssey though which was a "oh thank God" moment there's still hope for him yet. He also is 70% through Bananza, and enjoys Astro bot too albeit not as much. Mario kart is "ok". He's also enjoyed on trophy chasing on mascot thriller games, and rocket league. Fortnite he only likes the Lego and custom odd games not the actual BR.

Need to put doom eternal in front of him and man him up.

He turns 8 end of month. No more being a pussy little one.
Yeah it is hard at that age, and being into multiplayer games just seems an absolute minefield of degenerates these days! I think it was me that steered him off most multiplayer stuff without really trying, I was always moaning how poo it was these days, I think he just followed suit. The only multiplayer game he ended up playing was flight sim with his mate

I will say, he was a scroat too. It transpired that whilst I was at work and his mum was busy round the house, he'd snuck on the Xbox, knew my pin, and was playing Red Dead 2..

That threw me a bit :messenger_neutral:
 
Law enforcement does not feel.

The company isn't breaking any law. Harassment and abuse of underage users most likely will increase but that still doesn't give us the power to go after Roblox. We can only go after the suspects/criminals. A tech platform is most of the times exempt from crimes done by it's users. Online crimes are very difficult to pinpoint and laws aren't strong yet for online stuff. I do want Roblox to invest in the tools and detection systems but this is just hopeful prayers. It's unfortunate that it got so big and the company simply couldn't deal with it.

Seriously, this isn't a simple cat and mouse or A implicitly does the crime, we go catch A. Law works in a very complex way often laced in politics, corruption, human errors which often makes us powerless. Personally I obviously dislike Roblox but it's just business after all and we simply can't go and knock businesses without any justification.

You want to stop or hold Roblox responsible? Gather, make a group, hire lawyers, call your local politician, make a solid case, go to court. Nothing will work apart from this.
 
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JidionPreiinum were talking about this a couple of days ago. Shame it'll make their content take longer to come out.

I find JidionPreminum, Skeeter Jeans, and Predator Poacher very entertaining so I hope they'll still be pumping out videos often.
 

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According to the lawsuit, 27-year-old Matthew Macatuno Naval posed as a peer to contact the girl through Roblox. Then, the conversation moved to Discord, where the child was allegedly "groomed and manipulated" into sharing her home address.
Isnt that like suing the owners of a car park because thats where your car got stolen?
These feels like it would be way more on the parents for not teaching their kids to not engage these kinds of people.
 
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Yeah it is hard at that age, and being into multiplayer games just seems an absolute minefield of degenerates these days! I think it was me that steered him off most multiplayer stuff without really trying, I was always moaning how poo it was these days, I think he just followed suit. The only multiplayer game he ended up playing was flight sim with his mate

I will say, he was a scroat too. It transpired that whilst I was at work and his mum was busy round the house, he'd snuck on the Xbox, knew my pin, and was playing Red Dead 2..

That threw me a bit :messenger_neutral:
That's god damn O Driscoll behavior right there!!!
 
It's probably the making content out of it, which get millions of views and are filled with ads, which could potentially start some vigilante witch hunts.
He also has a store with merch which is displayed under every video and asking for paid subscriptions, so he's clearly not doing this just to protect kids.

Do all the hunting you want, but just make your reports to the actual authorities instead of all this monetisation around it.
 
It's probably the making content out of it, which get millions of views and are filled with ads, which could potentially start some vigilante witch hunts.
He also has a store with merch which is displayed under every video and asking for paid subscriptions, so he's clearly not doing this just to protect kids.

Do all the hunting you want, but just make your reports to the actual authorities instead of all this monetisation around it.
he does and the cops thanks
 
Roblox insulating themselves against when the amateur pedo hunter eventually gets it wrong so he doesn't get them both sued out of existence.
 
Isnt that like suing the owners of a car park because thats where your car got stolen?
These feels like it would be way more on the parents for not teaching their kids to not engage these kinds of people.

While I get the analogy, it gets a lot more complicated with anything directed to children (assuming, of course, that Roblox is considered "child-directed.") There are a lot of regulations that impose way more liability on anyone operating a platform like that, so it's a very different situation.

Though I guess... even outside of that, think about all the products liability cases where someone misuses a product, hurts themselves, and then sues successfully because the manufacturer didn't sufficiently warn them of the dangers of misuse. There's enough precedent that you could make a case like this stick even ignoring the child-directed issue.
 
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Isnt that like suing the owners of a car park because thats where your car got stolen?
These feels like it would be way more on the parents for not teaching their kids to not engage these kinds of people.
Wait, were you live you cant sue the carpark owner If you car get stolen from the carpark ?
 
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