Youtuber Karl Jobst has filed for bankruptcy after lawsuit loss to Billy Mitchell.

Emedan said:
Addendum, this shit only works in America, good luck getting a judge to bankrupt someone due to something they said in Europe.
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Jobst is Australian, he lost in Australian court, and he is filing for bankruptcy in Australia. I'm so tired of the moral aggrandizing from Europeans.
 
MrA said:
Whats really funny about is most eu countries have criminal defamation laws
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Although, in many EU countries it's not that easy to get a verdict, despite what the Internet would you have believe. The UK (yes, no longer a part of the EU) is the outlier here, with their rather bizarre libel laws. Which is why, among many other things, Private Eye (think "The Onion UK") uses the term "tired and emotional" for politicians who are really shitfaced.
 
Windom Earle said:
His failed pickup artist ark is pretty funny:
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It's pretty funny; but for a guy like you who presumably has low neuroticism, low empathy and isn't on the spectrum, it can be hard to wrap your head around how it feels to have social anxiety. It's a physiological response that is unavoidable, so requires a robust intervention like this. The video isn't as much about picking up girls as it is about overcoming this built-in response to social stimuli, in order to be able to pick up girls in the future. Kinda assholish to pick on a guy over trying to better themselves in this way, imo.
 
nowhat said:
Although, in many EU countries it's not that easy to get a verdict, despite what the Internet would you have believe. The UK (yes, no longer a part of the EU) is the outlier here, with their rather bizarre libel laws. Which is why, among many other things, Private Eye (think "The Onion UK") uses the term "tired and emotional" for politicians who are really shitfaced.
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True they're hard to get, but if Karl jobst had just dedicated a video saying he was wrong about suicide allegation and that the case had a no cash settlement he wouldn't have been likely to face a massive cash judgement either
 
E-Cat said:
It's pretty funny; but for a guy like you who presumably has low neuroticism, low empathy and isn't on the spectrum, it can be hard to wrap your head around how it feels to have social anxiety. It's a physiological response that is unavoidable, so requires a robust intervention like this. The video isn't as much about picking up girls as it is about overcoming this built-in response to social stimuli, in order to be able to pick up girls in the future. Kinda assholish to pick on a guy over trying to better themselves in this way, imo.
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Holy shit stop sperging so hard.
 
ValiantInstance said:
He was so 'confident' that he dismissed his legal counsel provided gratis by Notch because they told him to settle out of court for substantially less.

The guy is a first class moron and the persona he wears in his Youtube videos does not reflect his true character.
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I get what you are saying, I just don't see it the same. I think anyone who is in a very personal and drawn out legal battle with someone is going to talk shit, his just got leaked. I think you are reading too much into it.

I'm sure at one point in life you have voiced tasteless things in private about someone you were mad at. I also would imagine you wouldn't think it would be fair for people to judge you solely on those exchanges.

To be clear, while I am aware of who this guy is, I'm no Stan for him. You're allowed your own opinions, mine are just different. If in the future he displays behavior I don't like, I'll be the first to block his channel from my feed
 
lol Karl is such a thin skinned little bitch. Reminder, this guy promised to make a 100 videos to harass Billy in case of winning.
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Emedan said:
If you're a man of honour? Then yes. How small do you have to be to use any excuse to litigate other people? He might have technically been right seeing how he won the case, that doesn't mean he's morally right. That aside, the man makes a living of being offended, he's a worm.

Addendum, this shit only works in America, good luck getting a judge to bankrupt someone due to something they said in Europe.
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itt's actually much more difficult to win a case like this in America than it is in other countries. Our bar for slander/defamation is much higher.
 
diffusionx said:
itt's actually much more difficult to win a case like this in America than it is in other countries. Our bar for slander/defamation is much higher.
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I don't doubt that but it's the ridiculous sums. In Sweden he'd be lucky to get $3000 after winning such a case.
 
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Billy Mitchell might be a narcissistic jerkwad, but he at least has accomplished some things, AND you can't just falsely slander people for years without consequences. Glad he won.
 
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It's pretty good! Similar to Crystal maybe. I'll try it out on some Taco Bell later tonight.

I love how he refers to himself as the "star of The King of Kong", seems like a really humble guy!
 
E-Cat said:
Can he actually do this? I'm very much looking forward to the vid.
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I'm no lawyer, but pretty sure you cant do that shit. Someone can try and hope the lawyers and court dont find out (like sending money to a Swiss bank account to avoid paying taxes), but it'd be funny if Jobst tried that. Given how loud he is on social media he probably will. lol

I dont follow him at all and just got to know his speed running and court shenanigans stuff recently. But he seems like a smart enough guy to do an understand technical stuff like speedrunning, but either is the most egotistical guy not giving a shit, or he's partly retarded in some way. He talks and does stuff on social media in a real odd way (like blabbing about the court case publicly).
 
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MacReady13 said:
As someone who is not completely in the loop on Billy Mitchell and the saga behind his cheating ways, what cheating did he do exactly?
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It is alleged that Mitchell's high score on Donkey Kong was performed either on an emulator or altered game board. His original score submitted on a VHS tape from 1982 could have been easily altered, and he refused to repeat the score until it was challenged in 2005 - the subject of the documentary movie King of Kong, which I highly recommend.

The allegations led to Twin Galaxies (an online group that tracks arcade high scores), and subsequently Guinness World Records, removing his scores from their systems, until he successfully sued both companies who finally agreed to reinstate his high scores. Anyway, his score was beaten (by a lot!) in 2021, so it's all kind of moot anyway.
 
MacReady13 said:
As someone who is not completely in the loop on Billy Mitchell and the saga behind his cheating ways, what cheating did he do exactly?
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Depending on the organization, game, and speed run category, there are certain requirements when submitting a speed run to the leader board.

An easy example is the category Billy ran for the Donkey Kong record, which required the run to take place on original hardware. Not only should the game ROM be original and running on authentic game boards, but the input devices must be original. This is so every record attempt is performed on an even playing field, where the only variable is luck and skill.

It has been proven beyond any doubt that a world record run he submitted was ran on MAME emulation, and not original hardware. He lied about it being on OG hardware and continues to lie about this. This run was recorded on video and the giveaway that he lied is in the actual world record gameplay video. Frame by frame analysis shows how the image of each frame was being drawn on the CRT, and the manner in which ithe games image was drawn is not consistent with any other OG arcade board ever analyized. It is perfectly consistent with the game being run on MAME emulation. Only one conclusion, he didn't play on OG hardware.

Another time he cheated was when he broke a record at some convention. There is a picture of him standing next to the machine, and the arcade unit he played on was modified to house a joystick that wasn't original and which allowed techniques to be used that or not possible on the OG arcade stick.

There is more of course, but I just wanted to give you some reasons why one can claim he is a cheater. Not to Stan for the guy, but Karl actually has some videos with a comprehensive catelog of all the evidence accumulated against Billy's claim of innocence.

Edit: I'm not an expert, and I apologize if I am not 100% accurate on the details. I'm relaying this info to the best that I can recall.
 
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jshackles said:
The allegations led to Twin Galaxies (an online group that tracks arcade high scores), and subsequently Guinness World Records, removing his scores from their systems, until he successfully sued both companies who finally agreed to reinstate his high scores. Anyway, his score was beaten (by a lot!) in 2021, so it's all kind of moot anyway.
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I would like to add that they weren't "reinstated", but relisted under a new category called "legacy scores" or something to that effect.

It was an compromise to end litigation that allowed Billy to have his submitted score listed, while allowing Twin Galaxies to not lend them the prestige and credibility of being listed on the official scoreboard. At least this is how I remember the situation.
 
ReasonBeing said:
I would like to add that they weren't "reinstated", but relisted under a new category called "legacy scores" or something to that effect.

It was an compromise to end litigation that allowed Billy to have his submitted score listed, while allowing Twin Galaxies to not lend them the prestige and credibility of being listed on the official scoreboard. At least this is how I remember the situation.
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Good point. Yes I was simplifying the situation, but you're right that "reinstated" was the wrong word.
 
jshackles said:
It is alleged that Mitchell's high score on Donkey Kong was performed either on an emulator or altered game board. His original score submitted on a VHS tape from 1982 could have been easily altered, and he refused to repeat the score until it was challenged in 2005 - the subject of the documentary movie King of Kong, which I highly recommend.

The allegations led to Twin Galaxies (an online group that tracks arcade high scores), and subsequently Guinness World Records, removing his scores from their systems, until he successfully sued both companies who finally agreed to reinstate his high scores. Anyway, his score was beaten (by a lot!) in 2021, so it's all kind of moot anyway.
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Billy Mitchell scored over 900k live in 2004, beating the score of the guy who broke his record in 2000( and it wasn't steve weibe), King of Kong might be a fun movie, but it's grossly misleading.
I've posted it before, but check out this record of the dk highscore
 
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