Youtuber Karl Jobst has filed for bankruptcy after lawsuit loss to Billy Mitchell.

I was so out of date on the Billy Mitchell saga that I didn't realize all his scores were reinstated. Interesting redemption arc.

For some reason, I gradually start the like the guy, after he was made the villain of a popular documentary and still battled back to his throne, lol
They are reinstated? Mind blown.
 
Even though Karl lost the lawsuit (bc it wasn't about Billy's cheating but whether he caused ApolloLegend's suicide), he is still 100% correct that Billy is a conman and a massive cunt. He has way more moral character than Billy, it's a shitty thing to have happened.
 
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Billy Mitchell really gives the vibes of a proper giant cunt.
And he looks like a Ben Stiller character ln a comedy about the biggest redneck douche. The stupid tie, the mullet. Proper cunt.

Never heard about the grey haired dude.
 
I admire Billy having no chill. Brutal for Karl, not just here but his overall credibility. I'm sure his viewers are questioning every video of his they've seen & what they understand as they should be regardless of this event.
 
Billy mitchell is a POS but the guy who lost the lawsuit shouldn't of lied and exposed himself as a POS as well. Sucks to suck and karma bit him in the ass for lying.
Karl did not lie. Yes, some of his statements later turned out to be not factual, but he had multiple sources at the time of making those statements that led him to believe that what he was saying regarding, e.g. ApolloLegend's settlement with Billy, was accurate. Namely, that it included having to pay him money. The statements were made in good faith as to their factuality, though obviously intended to hurt Billy.
 
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I remember watching the King of Kong back in the day, and while I recognize a narrative established in the edit can be misleading, I was so pissed when he pulled out that VHS and took away that other guys accomplishment. It was obvious to me that this guy wasn't competing in good faith.
I'm not defending Mitchell here, he seems like a major cunt. But there's a similar, but different, documentary, called "Man vs Snake", that is about a guy trying to break the world record in Nibbler. And there Mitchell seems to be all supportive for the guy. I guess he has no bragging rights there and all that, but the editing does wonders. He still seems like a major cunt though.
 
I was so out of date on the Billy Mitchell saga that I didn't realize all his scores were reinstated. Interesting redemption arc.

For some reason, I gradually start the like the guy, after he was made the villain of a popular documentary and still battled back to his throne, lol
They are reinstated? Mind blown.
There is no redemption arc. The guy cheated for sure. Some platforms decided to list some of his scores as a separate "legacy" category due to Billy constantly threatening legal action. It was cheaper and easier to capitulate in some capacity than constantly fight Billy in court. They are not regarded as legitimate world records in the community, just a snapshot of what the scoreboard used to show.

This lawsuit also does not discredit the clear evidence that Billy misrepresented his scores and lied about the hardware used when attaining them; this suit specifically was in defense of the claim that Billy's actions caused someone to commit suicide.

Edit: I changed the word reinstate to "list", as reinstate suggests they are recognized as legitimate.
 
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Many people here don't seem to know who Jobst and Mitchell are, or can't speak to their character. Aside from Jobst's inaccurate statements regarding the ApolloLegend lawsuit, he is a damn brilliant investigative journalist and one of the world's most knowledgeable people on speedrunning (he used to be Goldeneye 007 and Perfect Dark speedrunning champion). I highly recommend watching the whole Billy Mitchell series, it's extremely well-researched, highly entertaining and should leave you with no doubt that he is a massive POS and a con man. Also a malicious psychopath. Some people here celebrating his victory makes me want to puke.
 
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Wait wait wait... years ago, I thought that Billy Mitchell was proven a fraud, so it was all bullshit? He's legit?
no, read my post above. It is proven without a doubt he used emulation and claimed it was legit hardware. He also used an unofficial joystick that due to the rules at the time (don't know if they are the same) made the world record illegitimate, due to advantages that are gained over the og hardware. To my knowledge, Billy has not been able to successful litigate these points.
 
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Wait wait wait... years ago, I thought that Billy Mitchell was proven a fraud, so it was all bullshit? He's legit?
No, the lawsuit had nothing to do with that. It was about whether Billy caused the suicide of a Youtuber named ApolloLegend, which it turns out he didn't, not in any concrete sense. Jobst was working with some false information (unbeknownst to him) at the time of making those statements, and later corrected himself in a video. But it was too late, Billy was out for blood.
 
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There is no redemption arc. The guy cheated for sure. Some platforms decided to reinstate some scores as a separate "legacy" category due to Billy constantly threatening legal action. It was cheaper and easier to capitulate in some capacity than constantly fight Billy in court.
The removal of his past scores really seemed a bridge too far -- he was the first seen to complete some major feats, like the Pac Man kill screen, and that's a significant first that should be recognized. Guinness restoring all of that (and sort of apologizing in their press release) makes sense, and it seems to me that he was right to insist on that point and win.
 
Karl did not lie. Yes, some of his statements later turned out to be not factual, but he had multiple sources at the time of making those statements that led him to believe that what he was saying regarding, e.g. ApolloLegend's settlement with Billy, was accurate. Namely, that it included having to pay him money. The statements were made in good faith as to their factuality, though obviously intended to hurt Billy.
The thing is Karl got very expensive lawyers on the base that Notch backed him up for the expenses (oupsies), we're at closer to 1 500 000 in total taking into account each parties lawyers fees and the amount he got to pay to Billy on top of that.
 
The removal of his past scores really seemed a bridge too far -- he was the first seen to complete some major feats, like the Pac Man kill screen, and that's a significant first that should be recognized. Guinness restoring all of that (and sort of apologizing in their press release) makes sense, and it seems to me that he was right to insist on that point and win.
I would agree that the baby got thrown out with the bath water. I also understand the shadow of doubt that gets cast on ones accomplishments when they are shown to lie and misrepresent facts. Billy is 100% guilty of doing this. While that doesn't discredit his real achievements in spirit, I understand an organization having a no tolerance policy with cheating. It hurts the perceived integrity of a score keeping platform to have known cheaters listed as record holder. That is why many speed running communities follow a similar pattern of removing all records associated with someone caught.
 
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The thing is Karl got very expensive lawyers on the base that Notch backed him up for the expenses (oupsies), we're at closer to 1 500 000 in total taking into account each parties lawyers fees and the amount he got to pay to Billy on top of that.
Notch bailed out? Jesus...
 
Totally deserved. All the stuff that's come out since the case was settled. The guy is an absolute fucking moron who refuses to accept when he's in the wrong.
 
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But seriously, on his YT channel he hasn't posted anything about the case after the verdict but before and during the trial, anything Billy said he would crate a 15 minute video. What a loser.
 
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This has been a highly entertaining saga to watch unfold and Billy reveling in his victory and Karl's woes is just

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That said, i can't help but feel for Karl's family that is having to also deal with the consequences of his dumbass decisions.
 
I guess Karl's videos are a 101 on how to owe a guy a couple hundred grand plus other legal fees.

Don't lie about people, then triple down, even making several public posts about it. Either he didn't listen to his lawyers or he had bad lawyers. I assume the former in which case they would be right to bail.
 
He got over 1 million subs... no way he is bnakrupt. He is probably rich af
Not if Social Blade is to be believed:


Factor in he was ordered to pay A$350,000 + interest and he'll also be on the hook for some portion of Billy's legal fees (I've read that could be as high as 70%) which were more expensive than his own (A$700,000K), that's a big pill to swallow. Granted he had a GoFundMe and had help from Notch (who might be helping him again after the ruling, but his initial donation only covered a few months of legal expenses).
I dont know anything about YT revenue, but skimming his videos they probably avg 1M clicks each, with most in the 500k - 1.5M range. Some are 2-4M clicks. And he's got a lot of videos.

Would all those clicks be able to generate $1M US? I dont know.

Of course, that doesnt mean he's got all $1M on him. Maybe he spent it all. But in terms of ongoing YT revenue, it sounds like his videos get tons of clicks. His recent handful of videos are at 300k.
 
For those of you who dont know what happened, Karl Jobst is a guy who does lots of videos on speedrunners and cheaters. Billy Mitchell is a mullethead who has lots of gaming records going back to old school arcade games (also owns restaurants). Mitchell has always had an image of being an arrogant prick thinking he's Mr Universe in gaming and he seems like someone who'd be best buddies with Trump. He's been accused of cheating in games too.

So what happened way back was Mitchell sued Jobst, and Jobst made it sound like Mitchell was being a baby because he proved he was cheating. So everyone thought it was a legal issue involving cheating allegations.

Turns out when the court case unfolded, there was more to it nobody knew about. Mitchell actually sued him for defamation because at some point Jobst accused him of helping a YT guy named Apollo Legend committing suicide.


Billy Mitchell allegations

American gamer Billy Mitchell was accused by Jobst of cheating to obtain his records in the arcade games Donkey Kong and Pac-Man, allegations that had already been made for years.[11][17] Jobst's allegations against Mitchell also included claims that Mitchell's lawsuit against YouTuber Apollo Legend (real name Benjamin Smith) contributed to his poor mental health and suicide.[17] Mitchell sued Jobst for defamation, seeking damages of $450,000, having also sued Smith, known as Apollo Legend, and speedrunning site Twin Galaxies for similar grievances.[11][17] Ultimately, Jobst was sued once,[18] having already spent about $180,000 on legal fees, and he had estimated a further $100,000 in legal costs to defend himself.[18] Jobst set up a legal defence fund on GoFundMe to mitigate the financial damage to his family due to the lawsuit. As of August 2023, it has raised A$143,176.[19]

In January 2023, Jobst made a video that showcased evidence in the form of an old photograph that purportedly demonstrated that Mitchell did not play his claimed world record runs on original hardware despite claiming so for many years, including a photograph that is said to show that an arcade cabinet Mitchell played on had an 8-direction joystick (as opposed to the original 4-direction joystick), which would have made the game much easier to play.[20]

On 1 April 2025, Jobst was found liable for defaming Mitchell, in particular for the imputation that Mitchell had contributed to Smith's suicide, and was ordered to pay A$350,000, with the judge saying that Jobst had "caused substantial additional damage to Mitchell's reputation and caused him distress".[21] Writing on Twitter, Jobst wrote:

"I lost. The judge found Billy to be a credible witness and believed his entire testimony. From that point on unfortunately there was really nothing that could have saved me. I will now obviously consider my options. I know many of you will be upset with this and I am sorry for that. Thank you again for all the support I have received and I will endeavor to work as hard as I can to repay all that you are owed."[22]
 
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He could not slay the Mitchell Dragon. I heard his wife might be seeking a divorce, which if true only goes to show that you shouldn't get so invested into video game world records that you completely ruin your life trying to ruin someone else's.
 
Thought I'd order three bottles in the UK, but on top of the £34.20 for the sauce they wanted £51 for shipping. Looks like it's USA only.
$22 CDN per bottle. Each bottle only 147ml (5 oz). But what a great deal!.... Buy a three pack and it's only $64 saving $2!

What a rip off. No bottle of hot sauce that small should be worth more than $5.
 

He does seem dickish, BUT the fact he demolished a youtuber trying to drag his name in the dirt through social media I like it.

Score one for people standing up to dumbass media people always trying to make a buck through clicks. And talk about an accusation. Not every day you publicly hear someone accusing another of contributing to a suicide victim. That's some bold claim.
 
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Bow down to the gamer of the century, cuck Karl!
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People are so wrapped up in Billy's wrestling heel persona from King of Kong that they are losing sight of how cunty this guy Karl is. Billy is a legit retro game beast who has done perfect Pac Man games and Donkey Kong kill screens in person. Karl is a failed pickup artist who shifted the grift to speedrunning. This backfiring on him spectacularly is absolutely hilarious and Billy putting his foot on his throat on twitter makes it even funnier. Karl is absolutely seething. I hope Notch doesn't bail him out and pay for all this.
 
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