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[KenzinFive]

Keys are never returning to Rock Band

Well, since I'm never buying a 360 again, I guess it's time to sell my keys on ebay or just toss them in the garbage. It may end being the latter since Rock Band instruments are a bitch to ship.

Or maybe Craigs List or Goodwill would be better options.

 

[GalacticMouse]

So I was just combing through the AMA and I'm curious...is there any way to still qualify for exporting the setlists from the old games if I don't already own them? Like, can I buy sealed copies on Amazon and export them? Would be a nice way to pad out RB4 when I get it and there's some classics in the old games that I'd love to replay!

FWIW, I owned RB 1-3 on 360 and would be buying RB4 on PS4, which is why I'm interested in this.

 

[opoth]

RIP in keys

It really stings knowing this is never coming, the main missing feature I cared about besides online.

 

[Deleted member 57681]

Awww shit here we go, give me that Journey and Metallica.

 

[Cipher Peon]

Well, since I'm never buying a 360 again, I guess it's time to sell my keys on ebay or just toss them in the garbage. It may end being the latter since Rock Band instruments are a bitch to ship.

Or maybe Craigs List or Goodwill would be better options.

Don't throw them in the garbage! My keys are slightly broken and it would pain my heart to see them being disposed instead of passed on.

Give them to Goodwill, at the very least ;-;

 

[BrokenBox]

Awww shit here we go, give me that Journey and Metallica.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Rockband/c...armonix_here_to_talk_about_the_future/cxzt3lh

EDIT: Beat.

 

[FyreWulff]

FYI, the keys are a great starter MIDI keyboard. Get a MIDItoUSB cable and you can use your Rock Band keys to play around on your PC.

 

[Deleted member 57681]

FYI, the keys are a great MIDI keyboard. Get a MIDItoUSB cable and you can use your Rock Band keys to play music on your PC.

What do you mean, play real music...?

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

Dreams dashed.

Well at least we've got the majority of RB1 and 2 to look forward to!

 

[FyreWulff]

What do you mean, play real music...?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph5RbMbW73k


MIDI!

Spoiler

results may vary depending on the quality of your soundbank

 

[Deleted member 57681]

 

[chrominance]

The TD-11 series has standard MIDI out, and I think the TD-15 kits have been discontinued. If they ever decided to make dedicated PS4/Xbox One MIDI Pro Adapters I suspect they'd have to add USB input, but I don't see it happening.

Pretty sure the TD-4 does too? Street price is not much more than the TD-1KV, though it doesn't come with a kick or hi-hat pedal as far as I know (which appears to be par for the course on more expensive kits).

 

[Deleted member 57681]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph5RbMbW73k


MIDI!

Spoiler

results may vary depending on the quality of your soundbank

B-but I thought all we do here is complain about pretend playing.

Pretty sure the TD-4 does too? Street price is not much more than the TD-1KV, though it doesn't come with a kick or hi-hat pedal as far as I know (which appears to be par for the course on more expensive kits).

The TD-4 has been long discontinued though. But yes, that one has MIDI-out.

 

[Shift Breaker]

Day 2 of EU PS4 Rock Band 3 export watch
Status: Can't feel my face

Still waiting for the rest of the RB3 DLC. I can't even feel feelings anymore on the matter.

Right order for exports though. RB1 is my favourite setlist and the fact that I'm one Soundgarden song off completion is annoying me.

 

[KenzinFive]

Don't throw them in the garbage! My keys are slightly broken and it would pain my heart to see them being disposed instead of passed on.

Give them to Goodwill, at the very least ;-;

Goodwill's are usually full of plastic video game instruments. There's a bunch of DJ Hero controllers at every one I go to. I feel like I'd be adding to that graveyard. :/

I'm just annoyed because I bought those keys for around $150. I was living in Korea when RB3 came out and the only place in Seoul selling them was the import game market at Yongsan with jacked-up prices. And then I barely played them...

Of course, this is all "sunk cost" fallacy, as that money is never coming back. Brand new keys sell for around $25 ($45 WITH the game!) on eBay. Used obviously sells for less so it's probably not worth the hassle to ship them and get a little bit of money back.

 

[Spine_Ripper]

Anybody not seen a single track of new dlc that they actually like? Cause this sucks lol. "Oh hey look The Weeknd...oh."

Should have been Tell Your Friends. Too bad everybody was fucking in the entire song.

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

Anybody not seen a single track of new dlc that they actually like? Cause this sucks lol. "Oh hey look The Weeknd...oh."

Should have been Tell Your Friends. Too bad everybody was fucking in the entire song.

At least half of the DLC packs have had songs I like. Although this week and the other off the chart pack was bleh.

I mean Cowboys From Hell was at least a ton of fun and a sick song. Loved the metal pack but haven't bought it just yet.

 

[vg260]

FYI, the keys are a great starter MIDI keyboard. Get a MIDItoUSB cable and you can use your Rock Band keys to play around on your PC.

Are there any programs that simulate a piano with the keyboard detected as a controller using a 360 wireless adapter?

 

[AdlaiSeven]

I am really not understanding the RB1, 2 and 3 exports.

In the past I had exported all the songs from RB 1 and 2 into RB3.

Was there a new export I needed to purchase for RB4? Or if you already exported songs into RB3, are you good to go?

 

[Baron von Loathsome]

I am really not understanding the RB1, 2 and 3 exports.

In the past I had exported all the songs from RB 1 and 2 into RB3.

Was there a new export I needed to purchase for RB4? Or if you already exported songs into RB3, are you good to go?

You're good to go for RB1 and 2. Rock Band 3 export in Rock Band 4 requires a $15 fee.

 

[vg260]

For the exports that expired, does that mean you can't buy the export anymore even if you had the manual code?

I don't remember what it was for, really, if that's even how it worked but I think I have an extra disc copy I might give to someone if it would still be possible.

I did all the exports for myself ages ago, so I don't remember the logistics.

 

[KenzinFive]

I am really not understanding the RB1, 2 and 3 exports.

In the past I had exported all the songs from RB 1 and 2 into RB3.

Was there a new export I needed to purchase for RB4? Or if you already exported songs into RB3, are you good to go?

If you exported songs into RB3, you're good, but will probably have to pay for an export key per game once it's available. The RB3 export is $15 and they determine that you owned it in some way based on the profile you used to play it on 360/PS3. I don't know if it's lenient enough that it just checks that you've played the game or if there's some other criteria. I had a digital copy of RB3 for 360, which I assume made it super-easy for them to see that I owned the game. People seem to be doing just fine with having owned physical copies though.

Either way, you can't buy the export key until the export is available for Xbone/PS4, so you're fine.

 

[chrominance]

So far the news most important to me is that practice mode won't be in the game until at least February. I've turned no-fail mode on so I no longer care as much, but dear lord I don't know how I'm going to figure out that awful Dream Theater song without it. I'll probably just take a bathroom break if it ever comes up in a set again.

 

[vg260]

Also very excited to hear practice mode drops in January. I'll gladly give up a week or two of DLC to get the GOAT setlist back.

Just to temper excitement, practice mode and set lists are not in January, just 2016 sometime.

 

[Shift Breaker]

For the exports that expired, does that mean you can't buy the export anymore even if you had the manual code?

I don't remember what it was for, really, if that's even how it worked but I think I have an extra disc copy I might give to someone if it would still be possible.

I did all the exports for myself ages ago, so I don't remember the logistics.

RB1: You buy a separate export key from the store and use it in-game to extract the songs to the hard drive. For RB4 all you'll need is that export key, which is no longer available for purchase.
RB2: The back of the manual contains a code which was used in the store as access to 20 free songs (expired) and in the RB3 store to access the purchase of the export. That has also expired.
RB3: If you've played RB3 online it should be available to access through the RB4 store. This is still available, naturally.
LRB: The manual has a code which when used in the console store downloads a key. That key is used in LRB which is used to purchase the export. The code on the back of the manual to get the key no longer works, however last time I checked if you're on a console with the key downloaded you can still purchase the export for another account. Last time I checked this was a few months ago on a UK PS3, so your milage may vary.
Track Packs: The back of the manual contains a code. Put it in the store, it'll work on the current gen consoles eventually.

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

Just to temper excitement, practice mode and set lists are not in January, just 2016 sometime.

Hmm. Well I'm still excited for the exports in any case.

 

[Zerot]

If you exported songs into RB3, you're good, but will probably have to pay for an export key per game once it's available..

If you exported 1, 2, Lego, Green Day, or the track packs into RB3, you will not have to pay a fee to get those songs into Rock Band 4.

 

[CloudWolf]

I think he was talking about the delisted songs.

 

[zulux21]

Keys are never returning to Rock Band

this makes me sad.

I am still hoping they at least add key support in the sense of being able to use it as a guitar or bass.

the lack of strumming opens up the game to a few of my friends who otherwise are not coordinated enough to play the guitar.

 

[PROh1bited]

I really love how Harmonix is being transparent right now with what they plan on doing. I can't believe that online might be coming back. I thought that was for sure dead.

Oh and the rest of the exports next month!!!

Keys and Pro instruments are never coming back. Let it go.

Oh, look who was right.

 

[teddymeow]

Day 2 of EU PS4 Rock Band 3 export watch
Status: Can't feel my face

EU PSN blog says it's up today but I'll be damned if I can find it.

It isn't even in the game under "Get More Songs".

 

[FyreWulff]

i kind of have the feeling if harmonix revisits keyboard in a game they'll probably make it a separate product this time

 

[Deleted member 57681]

EU PSN blog says it's up today but I'll be damned if I can find it.

It isn't even in the game under "Get More Songs".

They said something like "it's basically 100% ready, we're just running final tests now". So I guess it will go up any minute now...

...any minute

 

[Cipher Peon]

If you exported songs into RB3, you're good, but will probably have to pay for an export key per game once it's available. The RB3 export is $15 and they determine that you owned it in some way based on the profile you used to play it on 360/PS3. I don't know if it's lenient enough that it just checks that you've played the game or if there's some other criteria. I had a digital copy of RB3 for 360, which I assume made it super-easy for them to see that I owned the game. People seem to be doing just fine with having owned physical copies though.

Either way, you can't buy the export key until the export is available for Xbone/PS4, so you're fine.

My local Goodwill is nothing but clothes, which is lame. Especially since I don't like buying used clothing (also because my fashion sense is nowhere near what Goodwill offers).

Oh, look who was right.

I'm not saying it was going to happen! More like I want it to happen and I'm a grumpy grump about it not happening. I'm as salty as Gamefaqs atm and at least I have the self awareness to admit that!

 

[teddymeow]

So I guess it will go up any minute now...

...any minute

Must. Not. Keep. Checking.

 

[Cheat Code]

I'll tell you what though, at least SCEE still haven't changed the sale price of old DLC.

I forgot I didn't own Black Sabbath 01 so I bought it for £1.69.

Edit: This jame seriously cannot decide whether it wants to work or not. One song I can get through fine if not with a couple of long notes cancelling early (fret issue, not hardware) and then button just stop being recognised for a couple of seconds and the calibration completely dies (again not hardware, been playing the old Guitar Hero's absolutely perfectly with no calibration)

 

[FyreWulff]

"No, the musical rights stuff for RBN is actually already solved. When we ported the 360 songs to PS3 we figured out a system for making sure we had all appropriate rights to re-release tracks."

https://www.reddit.com/r/Rockband/c...armonix_here_to_talk_about_the_future/cxzu54y

 

[vg260]

Q: Will a Rock Band Blitz -ish mode be added to the game? Would love to play without instruments occasionally. It might bring some more people into Rock Band as well.

A: It's not impossible, but we have nothing to announce at this time.

"nothing to announce" and a smiley is a good sign.

 

[R_thanatos]

setlists coming is great , online play should be a priority as soon as legacy exports are out of the way.

 

[KenzinFive]

If you exported 1, 2, Lego, Green Day, or the track packs into RB3, you will not have to pay a fee to get those songs into Rock Band 4.

Oh, great! I hadn't read that bit of info. More money for me to spend on DLC then!

 

[repeater]

So do you guys find the input lag between the different instruments can vary a lot? After getting my RB4 Band in a box today, I've calibrated it (Guitar autocalibration+some small manual tweaks) and playing guitar feels pretty good now, but the drums can't be right because I'm dropping quite a lot of notes even on fairly straightforward easy songs.

Also, does the firmware update for the drums make any noticeable difference?

 

[bobohoro]

"No, the musical rights stuff for RBN is actually already solved. When we ported the 360 songs to PS3 we figured out a system for making sure we had all appropriate rights to re-release tracks."

https://www.reddit.com/r/Rockband/c...armonix_here_to_talk_about_the_future/cxzu54y

RBN would be so awesome.
I miss stuff like Dillinger Escape Plan, more Between the Buried And Me or the good Mastodon songs.

So do you guys find the input lag between the different instruments can vary a lot? After getting my RB4 Band in a box today, I've calibrated it (Guitar autocalibration+some small manual tweaks) and playing guitar feels pretty good now, but the drums can't be right because I'm dropping quite a lot of notes even on fairly straightforward easy songs.

Also, does the firmware update for the drums make any noticeable difference?

The difference between my E-Drums and my Beatles Hofner Bass was ~50ms. Haven't tested it after the patch though.

 

[Ninhead]

Is the AMA done? I wanted to ask about the details of the dearth of Grohl-related content.

 

[Spine_Ripper]

So do you guys find the input lag between the different instruments can vary a lot? After getting my RB4 Band in a box today, I've calibrated it (Guitar autocalibration+some small manual tweaks) and playing guitar feels pretty good now, but the drums can't be right because I'm dropping quite a lot of notes even on fairly straightforward easy songs.

Also, does the firmware update for the drums make any noticeable difference?

Drums are shit pre firmware update. You can't do rolls on the drum pads without it.It detects about half the hits on rolls if you play out of the box.

 

[SFenton]

RB1: You buy a separate export key from the store and use it in-game to extract the songs to the hard drive. For RB4 all you'll need is that export key, which is no longer available for purchase.
RB2: The back of the manual contains a code which was used in the store as access to 20 free songs (expired) and in the RB3 store to access the purchase of the export. That has also expired.
RB3: If you've played RB3 online it should be available to access through the RB4 store. This is still available, naturally.
LRB: The manual has a code which when used in the console store downloads a key. That key is used in LRB which is used to purchase the export. The code on the back of the manual to get the key no longer works, however last time I checked if you're on a console with the key downloaded you can still purchase the export for another account. Last time I checked this was a few months ago on a UK PS3, so your milage may vary.
Track Packs: The back of the manual contains a code. Put it in the store, it'll work on the current gen consoles eventually.

If that somehow were to work on 360 I might have to look for someone to nab that export for me...

 

[repeater]

Drums are shit pre firmware update. You can't do rolls on the drum pads without it.It detects about half the hits on rolls if you play out of the box.

Thanks for your answer! I will have to make it a priority to update the firmware then. This is in a way good news since it might mean that my calibration isn't that far off for drums either.

 

[Deleted member 57681]

Btw I saw a quote on the HMX forums somewhere (can't link atm) concerning the PSN EU export that "it's a matter of hours or days, but most definitely this week".

Lol

 

[Mr. Enigma]

IBitePrettyHard said recently on a Twitch stream that the RB4 drums have issues that firmware can't fix. It can't do 32nd notes properly at all.

 

[vg260]

online mode:

Q: Hey there! I was just wondering if Online play was at all in any sort of planning or development? Many thanks for the response!

A: Planning, yes. Development, not yet. Keep an eye out for the survey!

Q: Sweet! That gives me hope that it could come within the next three or four months or so.

A: There's a zero percent chance that anything will be out within 3-4 months. Even if it was our #1 priority right now, that would be a stretch, and we have other things we want to get to first. We don't have any sort of timeline on when (or even if) we'll be releasing online functionality.

 

[PROh1bited]

RB3 export will be up for SCEE tomorrow.