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Rock Band 4 |OT| We're Putting The Rock Band Back Together
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I have the Woodstrat. It's made out of arcade quality parts. It's also a workout to strum the damn thing because they implemented the click by using a giant spring for the strumbar. It'll take you like a year to even break that thing in.
It's legit heavy (because it's a real guitar body), so not very comfortable to play with standing up for extended periods, definitely a sitdown guitar.
All of this, but the upside is it has the best fret buttons of any guitar controller for any game or system. They're amazing.
How are the frets? They much farther apart than a regular rock band guitar?
Also I love that it clicks. I've considered opening up my rock band guitars and changing the strum mechanism.
They run smoothly together. They're actually about the same total size together as a regular RB/GH guitar, which was actually a surprise to me.
Xplorer on top, woodstrat on bottom
and in agreement with 2n2, they're comfy as hell, really good, zero mush, they just 'clack' when pressed. The woodstrat originally retailed for 300$, which is why the parts are so solid. I got mine for 40$ when Amazon was having firesales on them.
They run smoothly together. They're actually about the same total size as a regular RB/GH guitar, which was actually a surprise to me.
Xplorer on top, woodstrat on bottom
and in agreement with 2n2, they're comfy as hell, really good. The woodstrat originally retailed for 300$, which is why the parts are so solid. I got mine for 40$ when Amazon was having firesales on them.
Damn I wish I knew about that. The lowest I ever saw them was around $100, which is about what I'm gonna pay for it now.
I'm also looking at the Logitech Guitar Hero controller, which looks awesome. They seem to be much rarer though.
It's a great controller, but the fret bar is very stiff. It's very tiring to use. It's the only reason I don't use it as my main controller.
Dang I never saw them at $40. That's an absolute steal.
I'd say it's worth 100$. But you'll definitely get your arm swole from using that strum bar.
Yeah, the sale was when everything music games was being purged from everywhere. August 2011, according to the Amazon receipt. Also, it appears I actually paid 56$ for it. whoops, don't know why I remembered it as 40$.
Yeah, the sale was when everything music games was being purged from everywhere. August 2011, according to the Amazon receipt. Also, it appears I actually paid 56$ for it. whoops, don't know why I remembered it as 40$.
Ah yes. That was probably around the time they HUGELY discounted the pro guitar controllers. I must have totally forgot about the Mad Catz guitar at the time.
E: oops double post.
Would you mind posting the link?
I think I grabbed the only/last one.
Also, of course I would learn they made Telecasters back in the day, and I can't find those for diddly squat.
Ebay would probably be the best bet for those.
Does anyone have much experience with the ION drums? I've had a problem since I got them years ago. I use the third party Rock Pedal that was being sold years ago and when I first plugged the pedal into my ION set, the only way it wouldn't register a double hit was if I enabled the hi-hat pedal option. Could the problem be from the converter jack I used or is this an inherent problem with the IONs?
No luck there, first place I searched. Interestingly, no listings for the wood strat there either.
They are fairly uncommon guitars, but they do pop up ocassionaly. Just have to keep an eye out.
Rewrite
Not as deep as he thinks
Man, they really did kill crowd singalongs so bad with this sound mix update. I've had to adjust the sliders so I could hear them good and even then...on some songs (especially Green Day) you can BARELY hear them even with the adjusted volume mix when you'd hear them perfectly fine before this patch! UGH!!! I loved the way they were before and if people were really bothered by them, all they had to do was just tone it down with the crowd slider. Now I have to tone down everything in order to hear them. I really do enjoy the new audio mix cuz it sounds really good for me, but man the lowered crowd singalongs continue to be the biggest BUMMER for me. 
Also, any chance Harmonix adds crowd singalongs in future DLC? PLZ!!!!
Also, any chance Harmonix adds crowd singalongs in future DLC? PLZ!!!!
PhoncipleBone
Banned
The more I play since the new sound update, I am disappointed. The first song sounded awesome and felt so full and alive compared to the old sound mix, now it seems way too bass heavy no matter what you do.
Hopefully the next update they find a happy medium between the new mix and the old.
Hopefully the next update they find a happy medium between the new mix and the old.
Man, they really did kill crowd singalongs so bad with this sound mix update. I've had to adjust the sliders so I could hear them good and even then...on some songs (especially Green Day) you can BARELY hear them even with the adjusted volume mix when you'd hear them perfectly fine before this patch! UGH!!! I loved the way they were before and if people were really bothered by them, all they had to do was just tone it down with the crowd slider. Now I have to tone down everything in order to hear them. I really do enjoy the new audio mix cuz it sounds really good for me, but man the lowered crowd singalongs continue to be the biggest BUMMER for me.
Also, any chance Harmonix adds crowd singalongs in future DLC? PLZ!!!!
I've always loved crowd singalongs and I especially loved it when they nearly drowned out the band so long as you can still hear the band.
Just makes the atmosphere feel alive with a crowd totally pumped for the song they are hearing.
Man, they really did kill crowd singalongs so bad with this sound mix update. I've had to adjust the sliders so I could hear them good and even then...on some songs (especially Green Day) you can BARELY hear them even with the adjusted volume mix when you'd hear them perfectly fine before this patch! UGH!!! I loved the way they were before and if people were really bothered by them, all they had to do was just tone it down with the crowd slider. Now I have to tone down everything in order to hear them. I really do enjoy the new audio mix cuz it sounds really good for me, but man the lowered crowd singalongs continue to be the biggest BUMMER for me.
Also, any chance Harmonix adds crowd singalongs in future DLC? PLZ!!!!
You loved how for some songs you couldn't even hear the song since the crowd was so goddamn loud? Different strokes, etc.
Rewrite
Not as deep as he thinks
The only song where that was a problem for me was Behind Blue Eyes by The Who. Every other song I owned that had one was reasonable. It sucks that you can barely hear them now. If it really bothered you before, you could have just adjusted one slider (crowd) and your complaint would have disappeared. Now I have to adjust several sliders to try and get the same effect, which sucks. I honestly did not get the previous complaints when the crowd slider has always existed.
The complaint (at least how I saw it) was more based on the fact that it was really inconsistent. If I took down the crowd slider enough so that the crowd wouldn't massively overpower the song itself like in Behind Blue Eyes and What's My Age Again? I wouldn't be able to hear the crowd vocals in the on disc tracks at all. And because you can't change those settings from within the song selection/gameplay menu, I had to exit to main menu every time to move the slider to my preference. The new standard setting might be a bit too low in the mix, but at least everything is consistent.
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I haven't tried it since the patch, but Pretty Fly was so fucking terrible with the crowd, it was distracting. Way too loud, and for the last third not even in rhythm.
xKilltheMx
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hunchback
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I'm bummed out. I just received my guitar bundle and set up only to realize I won't be able to play.
This is the first game where my disability prevents me from playing. As my user name implies, I am a hunchback. Back when these game's first came out I could play them because my disease wasn't as bad.
Now I'm hunched over to the point where I can't hold the guitar against my stomach or chest. My neck is also frozen so I can't look at the frets if I need to.
I didn't even think about my disability when ordering. I was excited to play again.
This is the first game where my disability prevents me from playing. As my user name implies, I am a hunchback. Back when these game's first came out I could play them because my disease wasn't as bad.
Now I'm hunched over to the point where I can't hold the guitar against my stomach or chest. My neck is also frozen so I can't look at the frets if I need to.
I didn't even think about my disability when ordering. I was excited to play again.
Baron von Loathsome
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Shit man, sorry to hear that. Can you play sitting down? The whole "looking at frets" thing really shouldn't be a problem after some time (as seen with my girlfriend, who never played these kind of games before RB4, and can play easy hard songs by now without looking at the controller).
The looking at frets thing won't be an issue once you're used to it, if that is possible for you.
hunchback
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Thank you for the suggestions. I agree that the frets won't be a problem once I get going. It has more to do with my body shape. Even if I lay on a couch I'm still in a U shape. My entire spinal column fused it self into a giant U. I used to be 6ft and now I'm 4ft 4 inches.
I tried different chairs and stuff. I'll probably be able to play but only 2 or 3 song's. Otherwise I'll be sore for days.
Skiptastic
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Have you tried playing the guitar horizontally? Like, instead of standing, sit down and play the frets like a keyboard while you strum back and forth? Maybe have a table to lay the guitar on if your lap isn't going to work? I've seen guitars in country songs played like that, so it might help.
I'm really sorry for your condition and it is such a bummer that you are losing something you loved to do.
Quick question- I have RB2 drums for 360 and RB4 drums for Xbox One.
1) I have a legacy adapter. Is it better to just use the RB2 drums (since the X1 drums have that nice latency)? I'll have to buy cymbals but I'm unconcerned with the cost.
2) Are there sensor replacements available? Are the Xbox One sensors compatible with the 360 drums? My 360 kit is a little undersensitive IIRC.
(Goodwoodmods would be cool but I don't think they exist anymore.) EDIT: There's a few on eBay, but I don't know if it's worth it yet.
Thanks!
1) I have a legacy adapter. Is it better to just use the RB2 drums (since the X1 drums have that nice latency)? I'll have to buy cymbals but I'm unconcerned with the cost.
2) Are there sensor replacements available? Are the Xbox One sensors compatible with the 360 drums? My 360 kit is a little undersensitive IIRC.
(Goodwoodmods would be cool but I don't think they exist anymore.) EDIT: There's a few on eBay, but I don't know if it's worth it yet.
Thanks!
PROh1bited
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hunchback
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Have you tried playing the guitar horizontally? Like, instead of standing, sit down and play the frets like a keyboard while you strum back and forth? Maybe have a table to lay the guitar on if your lap isn't going to work? I've seen guitars in country songs played like that, so it might help.
I'm really sorry for your condition and it is such a bummer that you are losing something you loved to do.
I know exactly what you mean. I will give that a try this evening. I have a pillow it can rest on. Thank you for the idea. You have a great afternoon.
Oh wow, I feel stupid. For some reason it wasn't coming up when searching "Rock Band Legacy" on Amazon. Thanks!
SolidusDave
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I'm probably picturing wrongly what you're having problems with, but can you use the small hands buttons more comfortably? They can be used for normal play and not just solos.
http://www.harmonixmusic.com/blog/a-fireside-chat-with-rhythm-authors/
So apparently Rhythm Authors, a RBN authoring group, is also charting DLC (and contributed to RB4 disc charting)
edit: they also did the final RB3 DLC from last year and didn't even know RB4 was a thing when they were working on them
So apparently Rhythm Authors, a RBN authoring group, is also charting DLC (and contributed to RB4 disc charting)
edit: they also did the final RB3 DLC from last year and didn't even know RB4 was a thing when they were working on them
PROh1bited
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Yeah, for some reason you can't find it under the search function. I found it from Mad Catz site.
https://twitter.com/RockBand/status/700776648170348544
Looks like SCEA has to wait another week for at least the RB2 export.
I was really hoping it would go up today to take my mind off missing the Fire Emblem SE :/
Looks like SCEA has to wait another week for at least the RB2 export.
I was really hoping it would go up today to take my mind off missing the Fire Emblem SE :/
If you have a RB3 guitar, you could just use your drum pedal for OD activation if not using the drums at the time. I use the pedal from one of those portable drum pad kits I got on clearance.
PROh1bited
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Remember how some of the GH guitars had a telephone port on it. Any idea on what the hell they wanted to do with it?
IIRC the phone port on the Xplorer was supposed to be for an effects pedal of some sort that GH2 would be patched to support down the road. Any later guitars that had it were a leftover of that idea.
It's kinda interesting to go back and see some of the plans around GH2. GH2 was supposed to have a lot of DLC, and they wanted to do the singles/packs setup, and they also wanted to bring the GH1 soundtrack over. They only got some DLC, some of GH1, and Activision didn't allow singles to be sold.
Also pointless fun fact: Harmonix released GH2 DLC after Rock Band 1 came out. It was only a single pack, but there you go.
PROh1bited
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I guess Harmonix being bought, brought an end to that plan for GH2.