RB4 uses traditional 5 fret lineup. GH Live uses 2 rows of 3.
They confirmed long ago that they are not cross compatible.
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Rock Band 4 |OT| We're Putting The Rock Band Back Together
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RB4 uses traditional 5 fret lineup. GH Live uses 2 rows of 3.
They confirmed long ago that they are not cross compatible.
Hey people, quick question... I know about the compatability with previous instruments, but what I want to know... Can the RB4 guitar be used on previous titles? I have GH5 and Beatles RB (ps3), but no longer a working guitar (lost the receiver for the GH5 guitar). I would like to buy the new RB4 (ps4), if I can use the guitar on these titles, if not I'll just wait untill the inevitable price drop. Someone that can test this out for me?
Baron von Loathsome
Member
No.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Damn really wish there was a practice mode so I could nail Halls of Valhalla on vocals.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Finally looked at the GH Live reviews. WTF? That is how GHTV works? Free to play but you can buy passes to keep playing songs? That is a big, big turnoff. And you know they are going to start putting ads into the streams eventually.
Got the Shakes
Member
I was almost exclusively a Rock Band player last generation once I started getting tired of the 150 GH releases every year. Liked the Rock Band model of weekly DLC so much better. I already bought Rock Band 4 and I am picking up Guitar Hero Live today as it seems to do enough different to warrant a purchase. Not sure if I'll like it better or worse than RB, but I am interested in the new button layout and also their new way of introducing content. Now the question is if learning a new guitar is going to make me terrible at both games.
demosthenes
Member
I found it pretty easy on ebay.
did you get just the code or the physical game as well?
if you have any, local walmarts tend to have the track packs buried in their games section
Cipher Peon
Banned
I have over a thousand hours in the genre and I honestly don't care at all about the masters deal. Mostly because I don't understand what the games gain from masters that benefits me while it's much easier to see how not requiring masters benefits me as it'll give way to a higher chance of songs I love being brought in
demosthenes
Member
Bought a sealed copy.
Forsythia
Member
That's the reason I cancelled my pre-order. The game looks fun, but I can't even buy songs to play them offline (nice when they're killing the servers). Half the fun of these games is buying songs you like.
There's something to be said for having friends rally around with a song, but getting your hands dirty with the individual parts of the original recordings is another level that I appreciate. I've heard the songs hundreds of time analyzing them as a complete package or doing all sorts of stuff on top of them, but this game lets me hear and play with the individual pieces of the songs I love in a way I would never have had access to or have been able to interact with otherwise. We never were able to hear the songs in their components before this. I dunno, maybe, that's too subtle to be compelling to most, but that's a big deal to me.
Plenty of new copies on amazon. Bought a PS3 copy for $15 a few weeks before launch.
Lack of masters makes it almost impossible to accurately chart drums and especially bass though. With master tracks the charters can hear every note, every little nuance. Without this becomes a lot harder and in some cases even impossible. For instance, just try to chart a bass track based on a MP3 or even FLAC from Metallica's ...And Justice for All, it's not doable.
Shift Breaker
Member
Without masters we wouldn't have got this ending to Foreplay/Long Time or this ending to Runnin' Down a Dream. We would have got fadeouts instead. While it doesn't apply to every song, the effort put in to use every aspect of the tracks to create these endings really seem more immersive than any FMV ever would.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
It impacts the accuracy of charting. As pointed out above, it makes it really hard to accurately chart drums or even bass.
When you have split masters, you can re-rig the audio to push elements up out of the mix, clean it up, but also get proper and accurate beat-for-beat charts.
They can also do stuff like allow you to whammy the guitar or bass track and do the effects switch. Otherwise you'd be force to whammy the entire audio.
In very rare cases Harmonix will allow a song in that doesn't have entirely split masters - I Can See For Miles (RB3) is in this situation, where I think drums and bass or guitar are on the same stem and will cut each other out if someone misses. Beatles Rock Band had a lot of songs like this, which is partly why that game doesn't actually allow you to whammy and is very aggressive with playing DONK DORK PLONK noises when you start missing. Beatles was excusable though since 1) it was the f'ing Beatles and 2) it was have that song or not have it at all.
<_<
it's a really good bass line too
SiegfriedFM
Member
Yes, this is something I really appreciate with Rock Band. Some songs are actually better mixed in the game than the original. A Whiter Shade of Pale is notoriously noisy, but it was cleaned up well. And while Suspicious Minds is silly as a playable song, it's a great arrangement - I didn't hear that choir in the music video version used in Singstar.
This is like DJ Max vs Theathrhythm. Some people go "oh, I know that song, that game must be better", and completely miss the fact that one game actually tracks exactly what you're doing and modifies the music to it, and the other basically counts what you're pressing while listening to a Youtube stream. One game is a music game and the other is "rhythm action" at best.
This is like DJ Max vs Theathrhythm. Some people go "oh, I know that song, that game must be better", and completely miss the fact that one game actually tracks exactly what you're doing and modifies the music to it, and the other basically counts what you're pressing while listening to a Youtube stream. One game is a music game and the other is "rhythm action" at best.
I remember a Harmonix blog from the old days in which the sound designers were talking about their favorite musical surprises (with regards to master tracks) and one of them said something along the lines of: "Blackened actually has a really great bass line!".
Wow, first time I've played Birth In Reverse - first thing, what a terrible song. Secondly what kind of shitty charting is that?!
Initially in the set I had to play Super Unknown which is apparently 2 tiers harder but I easily five starred that on expert. Then BiV I scraped 4 stars.
I'll not be playing that again if I can avoid it!
Initially in the set I had to play Super Unknown which is apparently 2 tiers harder but I easily five starred that on expert. Then BiV I scraped 4 stars.
I'll not be playing that again if I can avoid it!
I first heard about them while watching SNL.
Was weird as all hell but I loved it and was super psyched when I heard it was in RB4
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1vkehj_st-vincent-birth-in-reverse-snl_lifestyle
Cipher Peon
Banned
FIVE STARRED METROPOLIS ON VOCALS!!
Hello Rock Band Immortal!!!!
Hello Rock Band Immortal!!!!
Shadow2222
Member
FIVE STARRED METROPOLIS ON VOCALS!!
Hello Rock Band Immortal!!!!
Cheesy Dream Theater joke time!
"Hey Metropolis, what do you think of Cipher Peon five starring the song?
*Metropolis watches and thoughtfully smiles*"
Congrats!
JED BARTLETT
Member
Might be old news but some of the Greenday tracks have turned up.
I'm downloading them now. I'm in EU on the Xbox One.
Doesn't seem to be any particular reason for which ones show up and which ones don't.
I'm downloading them now. I'm in EU on the Xbox One.
Doesn't seem to be any particular reason for which ones show up and which ones don't.
Chance Hale
Member
Think I'm about to try the microphone and sing a song. I've never sung in my entire life, I've even done happy birthday in monotone voices. Kind of nervous even though I'm alone, lol.
I almost never sing in front of others but I love singing in the shower or in the car when I'm alone and sometimes in Rock Band when I'm feeling super daring.
Don't go for a high score and just have fun with it on medium.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Yup. No fail on, barely survive a song, but have a lot of fun. Oh, and make sure the wife isn't around so I don't torture her.
demosthenes
Member
One thing to remember is to find a song you like and know and sing that first.
MindCollizion
Member
What if I don't have a ps3 to load blitz into?
Currently working on a Rock Band 4 theme for the Xbox One!
Making a version for both regular dash and the preview dash with the extra 'What's on' Category.
Should have it released later tonight.
NXOE users.. you will have to wait till tomorrow if not later. I don't have NXOE and I've heard people having issues with moving UI/wallpapers. dunno if that's fixed or not...
there is also another variant that ditches the RB4 logo and fuses the Xbox One logo in the corner with the harmonix logo but it looks pretty bad...
Here's the album with the various theme styles in 1080p
Hope you guys enjoy them!
http://imgur.com/a/ktmZp
The ones with longer strips are meant for those in the preview which contains the extra 'What's on'
Making a version for both regular dash and the preview dash with the extra 'What's on' Category.
Should have it released later tonight.
NXOE users.. you will have to wait till tomorrow if not later. I don't have NXOE and I've heard people having issues with moving UI/wallpapers. dunno if that's fixed or not...
there is also another variant that ditches the RB4 logo and fuses the Xbox One logo in the corner with the harmonix logo but it looks pretty bad...
Here's the album with the various theme styles in 1080p
Hope you guys enjoy them!
http://imgur.com/a/ktmZp
The ones with longer strips are meant for those in the preview which contains the extra 'What's on'
This is how I'm doing it... Started at 160 (video) with the help of automatic calibration, didn't quite work so I moved up to 180, worked better but still felt a little bit off during trickier parts. Tried 200 and played a couple of hard songs. Expert Start a Band 98%, Hail to the King 98 %, Halls of Valhalla 95%. This would not have been possible with my previous calibration, so it feels like I'm getting closer and closer of finding the sweet spot that suits my playstyle.
Remember the hitbox is very lenient on single easy notes and will usually hit despite your calibration being off. This changes during trickier songs where the notes gets closer together, which causes the hitboxes to shrink. This creates the illusion that the calibration is good at some sections, but bad at others. So it's best to test out calibration on hard songs, especially with a lot of HO/PO's. It was much easier to do calibration testings when you had practice mode and could decrease the speed, but until they fix that we'll have to do it the hard way.
Songs like My name is Jonas, Landslide, China Cat Sunflower and Hail to the King are good songs to fine tune the calibration.
Rewrite
Not as deep as he thinks
Thanks for the tips. That's exactly my problem. I play the strumming parts just fine, it's just when it comes to HO/PO's where I play like shit. It just doesn't register them that well for me. I'll keep trying.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
So apparently the Guitar Hero Live guitar kinda works with Rock Band but is not remotely ideal. Top three frets are GRY, bottom three are BO and nothing, and the strum bar doesn't register but the dpad serves as a substitute.
Almost all of the Green Day export is up on US XB1 now. A few songs listed as Purchased still want to charge you - it's similar behavior to how the Blitz export was looking early in the morning the day it went up.
EDIT: Confirmed the whole thing is up now. 44 GD songs in my library!
EDIT: Confirmed the whole thing is up now. 44 GD songs in my library!
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Deleted member 57681
Unconfirmed Member
Eagerly awaiting the first TtFaF FC on a Live guitar.
Also eagerly awaiting some fucking response re: how SCEE takes the piss out of their paying customers yet again. "Highest grossing month in Playstation Store history" suck my balls.
von Stroheim
Member
Any good news? As in: "Herr Stroheim, your Exports are ready! Rocken sie on!"
On this the day that I work all day long
*edit
Weirdly... It said I owned and let me download "¡Viva La Gloria!" When I don't...
And it won't let me download "¿Viva La Gloria? (Little Girl)" When that was part of the on disc soundtrack...
Hopefully they fix it soon but till then, free song?
On this the day that I work all day long
It's all there now so enjoy it when you get home!
Darksora250
Neo Member
Hey guys,
So I was able to get all of Green day outside of Viva La Gloria (Little girl). So I'm wondering whats going on with that.
Also, I got 6 out of the 8 songs within Ozzy Osbourn pack to download (Still missing the two songs that are pack only) and I got one part of the rush 2112 pack "The Dream, Soliloquy, Grand Finale". All of them showed up on my download list.
Xbox one player btw.
Edit: Was able to get all three parts of Rush's 2112 but not the complete 20 minute version.
So I was able to get all of Green day outside of Viva La Gloria (Little girl). So I'm wondering whats going on with that.
Also, I got 6 out of the 8 songs within Ozzy Osbourn pack to download (Still missing the two songs that are pack only) and I got one part of the rush 2112 pack "The Dream, Soliloquy, Grand Finale". All of them showed up on my download list.
Xbox one player btw.
Edit: Was able to get all three parts of Rush's 2112 but not the complete 20 minute version.
Harmonix or MSFT goofed and put Viva La Gloria with the export access instead of Viva La Gloria (Little Girl)
Baron von Loathsome
Member
Thanks for the heads up, just downloaded my Ozzy 8-pack and 2112 songs.