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Duck said:
Can any PS3 users here check and see if this is actually real?
Seems like it is:
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Just can't download them. Probably a mistake, but if not you Rock Band PS3 owners will be happy.

edit: uploaded different pic
 
Wired All Wrong said:
Seems like it is:
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Just can't download them. Probably a mistake, but if not you Rock Band PS3 owners will be happy.
I'm pretty sure that's a fake, YYZ is the third song on the album, not fourth.

edit: nevermind, you've uploaded a different pic. Interesting.
 
Archie said:
Probably just have Everlong in the RB1 store and not even offer it in the RB2 store.
It'll probably be like Doolittle (WHICH MOST OF YOU ASSHOLES DIDN'T BUY!!! >:|!!!); every song will be up for download except the one on the disc. If you want Everlong, you'll probably have to buy RB2.
 
Yeah but when Doolittle came out, everyone had Wave of Mutilation. I wouldn't be surprised if that song was offered in the RB2 store.
 
birdman said:
You gotta wonder how that will work with Rock Band 2 if they offer the entire album(s).

I really don't think we'll see RB2 disc songs included in album DLC. Say you have RB2 and you download The Colour and the Shape. Would Everlong be listed twice? Even if it's not, you'd still be paying for it twice at that point.

Just like they aren't gonna start listing Wave of Mutilation with the rest of Doolittle. If you want the song you're going to have to get the game.

Archie said:
Probably just have Everlong in the RB1 store and not even offer it in the RB2 store.

That's an interesting point though, that there could be 2 different stores. I hadn't really considered that.
 
Archie said:
Yeah but when Doolittle came out, everyone had Wave of Mutilation. I wouldn't be surprised if that song was offered in the RB2 store.
I would; they want to sell you a disc with songs on it at retail. :|
 
I AM JOHN! said:
I would; they want to sell you a disc with songs on it at retail. :|

The counterpoint to that is that HMX and the bands probably all make more profit off DLC than they do from game sales. Though I could be wrong.
 
Edit: I think I greatly botched the reading of the previously mentioned Twitter message. I think it's just the three-pack out for PS3 first, not Moving Pictures. Sorry. :/
 
Let the bitch fighting begin! Neversoft are saying they think Rock Band cymbal are a copycat move, but Harmonix questioned the musical experience of Neversoft with their choice of a 2 cymbal drum kit.

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=226636

"I don't know how far ahead they planned that - we obviously revealed [our drum kit] much earlier than they did," said Bright, referencing Harmonix' plan to release separate clip-on cymbals for Rock Band set-ups.

"I've a feeling there was a: 'Oh s***! There's cymbals! How can we put cymbals on our kit?' That would be the easiest way without having to rewire everything and re-engineer the entire circuit board."

And Drake cranked up the war of words between Neversoft and Harmonix, offering some barbed thoughts on World Tour's drum kit. "We actually have expansion ports on the back of our drum kits that let you attach three cymbals to your drum set," he said.

"At Harmonix we really are musicians first and game people second... My drum set has three cymbals on it - I don't know how many drum sets you've seen with two cymbals on them; I guess that's a question for other people."
 
JonathanEx said:
It gets better though: http://www.eurogamer.net/tv_video.php?playlist_id=13759

John Drake is more subtle - while he doesn't explicitly say "Neversoft's charts suck", he talks about how theirs are authentic and they don't add notes where there aren't any for artificial difficulty - and you know what that's talking about.

You know what? I have clear preferences when it comes to charting. I kinda get why people would prefer one over another when it comes to style.

But when Harmonix act like they compress music down to 5 notes more "authentically" than somebody else, I want to pull my hair out. It's such an outrageously stupid statement. It's impossible for a chart to be realistic or authentic. It's a fucking MIDI chart with 5 notes. And I'm as guilty as anybody of saying stupid shit regarding charts, so I should know. I probably said GH:3 was realistic once, which is stupid.

Also; doesn't the Harmonix endorced ION drum kit only come with two cymbals? I DUN NO NE THAT CUM WIT DAT.

birdman said:
Brian Bright needs to seriously shut his mouth. He's getting near Dyack territory.

Brian Bright is my hot, hot sex.

*headbangs to drum loop*
 
Honestly, Neversoft just needs to shut the hell up and work on their game. It seems like every three days one of their higher-ups mouths off against RB.

If they think World Tour is so great and is so much better than Rock Band (even though it's borrowing a lot from Rock Band
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), maybe they should just let the game speak for itself instead of spouting off shit like someone who has eaten bad Mexican food.
 
I'd love to see the reaction on their faces after Rock Band dropped the motherload of albums on their faces. Here have some cake Mr. Bright.
 
TheGreatDave said:
But when Harmonix act like they compress music down to 5 notes more "authentically" than somebody else, I want to pull my hair out. It's such an outrageously stupid statement. It's impossible for a chart to be realistic or authentic. It's a fucking MIDI chart with 5 notes. And I'm as guilty as anybody of saying stupid shit regarding charts, so I should know. I probably said GH:3 was realistic once, which is stupid.

It's hardly impossible. If you stick some scorehero kid in front of a song and have him chart it, the song is not going to be as fun to play as if an experienced developer were chart it. I don't see what is so hard to understand there.
 
duderon said:
It's hardly impossible. If you stick some scorehero kid in front of a song and have him chart it, the song is not going to be as good as if an experienced developer were chart it. I don't see what is so hard to understand there.

My objection is the phrase "authentic". Go watch the Cherub Rock charts in GH and RB. Tell me how any one is more "authentic", in the literal sense. Same for any of the songs in both games.
 
TheGreatDave said:
My objection is the phrase "authentic". Go watch the Cherub Rock charts in GH and RB. Tell me how any one is more "authentic", in the literal sense.

I'm not using Cherub Rock as an example, but I can easily see if notes are added or taken away, how the word "authentic" could be used if the other version has them. Albeit, very loosely.
 
The Colour and the Shape is a damn good album, many awesome Rock Band-ish tracks too.


BTW: WTF will happen with Sir Psycho Sexy from Blood Sugar Sex Magik?

Maybe Harmonix will break down and allow a M rated album.
 
TheGreatDave said:
My objection is the phrase "authentic". Go watch the Cherub Rock charts in GH and RB. Tell me how any one is more "authentic", in the literal sense. Same for any of the songs in both games.

Authentic in the literal sense would be which fingers are being used for each note and if all of the fingerings are correctly charted. I'm no guitarist, but I'd guess Harmonix is charting more "authentically" than Neversoft since many developers there double as musicians.
 
duderon said:
Authentic in the literal sense would be which fingers are being used for each note and if all of the fingerings are correctly charted. I'm no guitarist, but I'd guess Harmonix is charting more "authentically" than Neversoft since many developers there double as musicians.

But you have clear sections in Rock Band where it's obvious you're playing a single note when the guitar tracks has a chord played. I don't wanna dwell on this (I've learned not to talk about guitar charts unless I'm attacking Neversoft), my point is just that "authentic" is a really strained term for them to use in this context. I don't think anybody would say any part of the plastic guitar experience is authentic in any way. I'm much more interested in which is fun, and if they had just said they thought their charts were more enjoyable that would be fine.
 
TheGreatDave said:
But you have clear sections in Rock Band where it's obvious you're playing a single note when the guitar tracks has a chord played. I don't wanna dwell on this, my point is just that "authentic" is a really strained term for them to use in this context. I don't think anybody would say any part of the plastic guitar experience is authentic in any way. I'm much more interested in which is fun, and if they had just said they thought their charts were more enjoyable that would be fine.

They do that when there are two guitar tracks to break the monotony of constant chords, but I agree there is little to no relation to guitar in Rock Band vs. guitar as an instrument. When comparing two games, I think there are differences that makes one game feel more authentic than another, like HO/PO and note placement. But yes, fun trumps everything.
 
duderon said:
They do that when there are two guitar tracks to break the monotony of constant chords, but I agree there is little to no relation to guitar in Rock Band vs. guitar as an instrument. When comparing two games, I think there are differences that makes one game feel more authentic than another, like HO/PO and note placement. But yes, fun trumps everything.

As a side note, I don't suppose you've played GH:Aerosmith? If you look at their charts for that I'd be surprised if thought they were all that different to Harmonix's. They have toned things down for sure.
 
Ok, here's something very interesting.

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This is, allegedly, a pic of the YYZ info page taken during the brief moments that Moving Pictures was "Available" on the PSN store. Take a closer look to the first paragraph after EXIT. "Please make sure you have the latest Rock Band update".

Patch incoming to support instrumentals, hence the delay, amrite?

EDIT: And YAY! for the 8 tier drums on YYZ.
 
Orellio said:
Then why does vocals have a difficulty of 1, rather than being grayed out or somesuch?

There is a disclaimer that says "WARNING: No playable vocals part". But, yeah that is weird that it shows a 1.
 
Orellio said:
Then why does vocals have a difficulty of 1, rather than being grayed out or somesuch?

Needs more cowbell? I don't know. Maybe the ranking system was not prepared for no vocals option.

Maybe the patch will correct that too...
 
TheGreatDave said:
As a side note, I don't suppose you've played GH:Aerosmith? If you look at their charts for that I'd be surprised if thought they were all that different to Harmonix's. They have toned things down for sure.

No I haven't, but toned down from GH III doesn't necessarily equal fun to me. I wouldn't be the best judge either since the last GH game I played through was II.
 
sublime085 said:
Foo Fighters (The Colour and the Shape)
Red Hot Chili Peppers (Blood Sugar Sex Magik)
No Doubt Best Of collection
Jane's Addiction (Nothing's Shocking)

Damn, like that guy on the 1up show said they really are hammering home the nostalgia for the 20-30 year old crowd. If you were a teenager in the 90s and didn't have at the least a passing affection for one of these bands, well then you didn't live. I'm easily buying all four of these. I'll wait and see for the rest, although I'm likely to get SRV as well.

I was born in '81 and I still dislike all of them except Jane's Addiction whom I only got into within the past year or so.

Of the list Texas Flood and Peace Sells are the only two I might consider buying. It's really going to come down to how ludicrously hard the songs are (i.e. how often will I actually want to play this as opposed to just bashing my hand with a cinder block and telling myself that I suck?) and my financial situation.
 
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