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Rocksmith |OT| While My Guitar Gently Weeps

Xerxes

Neo Member
jgkspsx said:
How do you like it? I have a little parlor acoustic by their Art & Lutherie nameplate that I really love.

Love it. Paid $400 new and the fit/finish and tone is so much better than anything I've seen for under a grand. No comparison. My only complaint is the trem on it is a bit shite, but I don't use a whammy bar so I had it blocked. Problem solved.

They don't make this model any more but I hear the new lower end guitars are still amazing. It's kind of nice they're all built and assembled in Quebec and New Hampshire. It's tough to find north american built guitars in my price range.
 
Just lacked the proper motivation.

Whenever I did feel like learning, I would try for a couple weeks and then give up after which I'd just tinker with the guitar and end up performing "surgery" on them.
 

lobdale

3 ft, coiled to the sky
Anyone heard anything about DLC schedules/information yet? It seems all quiet on the western front but can't hurt to see if there's any buzz on timing/pricing/quantity.
 

Meier

Member
I was super excited to learn that the Boxer Rebellion are in this. Great that more people are getting exposed to such a great band.
 

Xerxes

Neo Member
I was playing Geometry Wars 2 the other day (which I suck at BTW), dying, restarting, dying, eyeing the leaderboards, improving little by little. I had to ask myself, "Why do I like this so much? What is it about these blinking lights and numbers that drives me to improve when the only tangible reward is a slightly delayed, but inevitable death? Why can't I apply this mindless dedication towards something productive?" I approached the next day with new-found optimism and perspective. I then proceeded to do nothing of note and ended my evening playing more Geometry Wars.

Rocksmith is probably the only thing that has tapped into that weird, obsessive, video-gamey part of my psyche and allowed me to apply it to something somewhat useful. I think that's pretty remarkable.
 
Shit, I forgot this was coming out. I never got the pro controller for Rock Band, and this game looks to be what I need to finally learn that guitar my wife bought me years ago.

Will add this to Christmas list.
 

Xerxes

Neo Member
shagg_187 said:
Yep. I replayed 'Well OK Honey' over a dozen time even when I completed the required time for it.

I JUST WANT TO PERFECT IT!!! :mad:

Awesome song. Surprisingly fun to play.
 

bloodydrake

Cool Smoke Luke
Fusebox said:
I don't get that vibe from this game at all.
Oh I was just referring to the mini-games, and that if your completely new the best way to build up some required skills Will be to play the mini-games... a lot.

They're great I wasn't trashing them,things like the Dashing Roadrunner one are great to really work on your Alternate Picking speed,which always bores the hell out of me trying to do it regularly.At least now you have some visual stimuli to engage while picking as fast as you can
 

Fusebox

Banned
bloodydrake said:
Oh I was just referring to the mini-games, and that if your completely new the best way to build up some required skills Will be to play the mini-games... a lot.

They're great I wasn't trashing them,things like the Dashing Roadrunner one are great to really work on your Alternate Picking speed,which always bores the hell out of me trying to do it regularly.At least now you have some visual stimuli to engage while picking as fast as you can

Nyaaaggh that sounds fucking awesome, Amazon said my copy would ship on the 25th, hurry up I neeeeeed it!!!
 

DrBo42

Member
bloodydrake said:
Oh I was just referring to the mini-games, and that if your completely new the best way to build up some required skills Will be to play the mini-games... a lot.

They're great I wasn't trashing them,things like the Dashing Roadrunner one are great to really work on your Alternate Picking speed,which always bores the hell out of me trying to do it regularly.At least now you have some visual stimuli to engage while picking as fast as you can

The only thing I don't "get" is the scale runner. Is anyone that doesn't know theory really going to tackle this and be okay, "I'm going to work on my mixolydian scales today"? It's great that it's in there but in order to even apply this, don't I have to at least know some music theory to apply it? I just don't see how it helps me as a novice.
 

luffeN

Member
Bought a new guitar, forgot to buy a plectrum...

Epiphone Les Paul Special II Black

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So hyped that more and more of GAF are getting turned onto this awesome game. Keep the gear shots coming!

Guitar porn never gets old. :D
 
Animator said:
Yea I want DLC right now. This is one game where I will buy any and every dlc they release.


Anything metal that they put out as DLC I will buy. Actually I'll probably buy most of it, I love this game.
 
So whats the consensus on this?

I've been really wanting to learn to play guitar, and I'm thinking for the ~$200 this will cost will be good to get me going.

Also, I know nothing about playing a guitar or any instrument for that matter.
 

shaowebb

Member
I heard this game operates on pitch. Is that true? If so can I use my electric 3string dulcimer on this game. I'd really like that.

Heres a pic.

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Its got a Dimebucker bridge and an Invader neck model neck pickup (the jazzy one in the set, not the high resistance crunchy one). I would've run the full Invader set for maximum resistance, but the Invader bridge didn't sound as nice as the Dimebucker IMO so I used it for the nice stuff since it could actually deliver a cleaner tone on its mids than the Invader would've. It all mahogony and I can't tell what my luthier made its banding out of. DAD tuning currently running fat strings to get a more guitar-like sound out of dulcimer style play. Mixolydian scale...think G major and you got it.

If Rocksmith operates on pitch then I'll make the investment since it'll give me another outlet to practice and a pretty decent way to chart my progress.
 

luffeN

Member
^
Awesome xD
HammerOfThor said:
So whats the consensus on this?

I've been really wanting to learn to play guitar, and I'm thinking for the ~$200 this will cost will be good to get me going.

Also, I know nothing about playing a guitar or any instrument for that matter.
I am the same. But I played lots of Guitar Hero before that *ducks*. The game does not really take you by the hand to tell you what to do when and so on. There are great minigames and challenges to get the hang of playing the guitar. I think that you need to practice about 1 hour a day for three weeks to start playing the songs. But I could be wrong xD
 
"Ducks" definitely feels like space invaders.. seems like a good way to get better at shifting positions on the fretboard.

The game itself doesn't give that impression.
 

JaggedSac

Member
shaowebb said:
I heard this game operates on pitch. Is that true? If so can I use my electric 3string dulcimer on this game. I'd really like that.

Its got a Dimebucker bridge and an Invader neck model neck pickup (the jazzy one in the set, not the high resistance crunchy one). I would've run the full Invader set for maximum resistance, but the Invader bridge didn't sound as nice as the Dimebucker IMO so I used it for the nice stuff since it could actually deliver a cleaner tone on its mids than the Invader would've. It all mahogony and I can't tell what my luthier made its banding out of. DAD tuning currently running fat strings to get a more guitar-like sound out of dulcimer style play. Mixolydian scale...think G major and you got it.

If Rocksmith operates on pitch then I'll make the investment since it'll give me another outlet to practice and a pretty decent way to chart my progress.

You would need to mentally map fret numbers and strings on a guitar to whatever that equivalent is on a dulcimer. Would be pretty awesome if you were successful at it. And chords would obviously give you issue, at least those with more than 3 strings. Awesome instrument though dude.
 

shaowebb

Member
JaggedSac said:
You would need to mentally map fret numbers and strings on a guitar to whatever that equivalent is on a dulcimer. Would be pretty awesome if you were successful at it. And chords would obviously give you issue, at least those with more than 3 strings. Awesome instrument though dude.

The mental mapping is pretty much par for the course on anything I want to play using this instrument considering that sheet music for Dulcimers tends to steer clear of anything other than folk, and bluegrass (I am a fan of neither). Generally I have to do GDG tuning so I can simply read sheet music made for G major playing or adapt my fretting in another tuning to read music meant for other instruments.

Rocksmith is using numbers instead of notes though? Can I get it to display notes or does it only list the letters for chords given how complex notation gets on six strings since it has so much range? Are there difficulty levels that let you play 3 string maximum settings on it like lvl 1 one string, lvl2 2 string, lvl 3 3 string kind of training modes?

Sorry to ask so many questions, but this could be a pretty good tool if I can be certain it won't crap out my scores due to lack of strings once I figure out notation conversion for it. If theres a mode that'll only attempt to score me for accuracy across 3 strings then I'm set.
 

DeviantDragon

Neo Member
firehawk12 said:
From reading the thread though, it seems to be worse than input lag found in the other rhythm games like RB or GH? Or is it just more noticeable because of the gameplay?

The RB and GH lag is lag in your timing as you strum vs. when the note is in the right place on the screen. With Rocksmith, since it's actually playing the sound from your guitar there's a lag between when you strum and when the audio leaves your TV if you have a bad set-up. Even if the game registers your note correctly the audio could be delayed with sub-optimal A/V setups.
 
Hey guys I live in South Africa and this game is no where in sight? would I be able to import it and play it or is it region locked?Also does anyone know when it might come here?
 

Famassu

Member
ChocolatePuddin said:
Hey guys I live in South Africa and this game is no where in sight? would I be able to import it and play it or is it region locked?Also does anyone know when it might come here?
PS3 version is region-free, Xbox 360 version is not.

And Ubisoft hasn't announced any kind of schedule for the rest of the world, they just released this in NA with a vague TBA 2012 release schedule elsewhere.
 
HammerOfThor said:
So whats the consensus on this?

I've been really wanting to learn to play guitar, and I'm thinking for the ~$200 this will cost will be good to get me going.

Also, I know nothing about playing a guitar or any instrument for that matter.
I was optimistic going in and it's better than I thought it would be when it comes to the actual playing. There's an obvious need for a Guitarsmith 2.0 to improve the UI in the frontend, and there are some weird decisions here and there (the audience in particular). I don't know how hard it would be for a person going from scratch, though. There are a lot of training "challenges" besides the minigames, and even more videos (Ernie Ball seems to be the sponsor for many of them). I haven't really looked into the vids, though, and have only just started dealing with chords, which is where IMO the difficulty really ramps up.

Long story short there's a lot more content than you'd think from the setlist, but almost all of that content is focused on guitar training over "fun".

As for lag, I have it going (all HDMI) from console to receiver to TV, with good headphones plugged into the receiver and turned up just loud enough to hide the sound of my actual guitar, and I can successfully play parts of some songs with my eyes closed, using what I hear as the basis for my actions.
 
Of All Trades said:
I was optimistic going in and it's better than I thought it would be when it comes to the actual playing. There's an obvious need for a Guitarsmith 2.0 to improve the UI in the frontend, and there are some weird decisions here and there (the audience in particular). I don't know how hard it would be for a person going from scratch, though. There are a lot of training "challenges" besides the minigames, and even more videos (Ernie Ball seems to be the sponsor for many of them). I haven't really looked into the vids, though, and have only just started dealing with chords, which is where IMO the difficulty really ramps up.

Long story short there's a lot more content than you'd think from the setlist, but almost all of that content is focused on guitar training over "fun".

As for lag, I have it going (all HDMI) from console to receiver to TV, with good headphones plugged into the receiver and turned up just loud enough to hide the sound of my actual guitar, and I can successfully play parts of some songs with my eyes closed, using what I hear as the basis for my actions.
As a total beginner, I'll be honest and tell you that the game is more overwhelming than fun at this point, but I know the benefits and fun will come in time. The Duck game was fun and very helpful, but at this point where I am struggling to switch from yellow 1 to red 3, I really need training and lots of it.
 

Onemic

Member
Just got it today and I'm thinking I'm gonna be addicted to this thing. I'm actually playing my damn guitar again. Wonder how long it'll take me to get good again though...

Weapon of choice is the Jackson DK2 Dinky
 

Famassu

Member
Of All Trades said:
Long story short there's a lot more content than you'd think from the setlist, but almost all of that content is focused on guitar training over "fun".
But guitar training IS fun.
 

luffeN

Member
onemic said:
Just got it today and I'm thinking I'm gonna be addicted to this thing. I'm actually playing my damn guitar again. Wonder how long it'll take me to get good again though...

Weapon of choice is the Jackson DK2 Dinky
Pic or it didn't happen, please :D
 
Dark Octave said:
As a total beginner, I'll be honest and tell you that the game is more overwhelming than fun at this point, but I know the benefits and fun will come in time. The Duck game was fun and very helpful, but at this point where I am struggling to switch from yellow 1 to red 3, I really need training and lots of it.

I feel the same way.. though I feel pretty good when the game adds more notes to the song I'm playing.. and it feels good to get more and more of them right through practice.

I am also a 100% newbie..
 

Maddog

Member
So my official Rocksmith Guitar Strap broke (the plastic part that the strap wraps around snapped). Any suggestions for what I should buy at the music store tomorrow?
 

Tremis

This man does his research.
DrBo42 said:
The only thing I don't "get" is the scale runner. Is anyone that doesn't know theory really going to tackle this and be okay, "I'm going to work on my mixolydian scales today"? It's great that it's in there but in order to even apply this, don't I have to at least know some music theory to apply it? I just don't see how it helps me as a novice.

I feel the same way. Wonder if its worth working on those or not.
 

Xerxes

Neo Member
I really hope that Ubisoft puts a bit more of their marketing clout behind this game. There's been hardly any hype at all. Still hasn't been reviewed by the majority of gaming sites.
I'm worried that this is being sent out to die. I NEED this game to be popular enough to justify a good long run of dlc.
 
Famassu said:
But guitar training IS fun.
If you aren't amped up at the idea of learning guitar then the initial steps are going to be rough. The difficulty scaling seems to do a good job but like I said, I don't know how it would be going in as a blank slate, particularly since the "goal" of the game is to play those songs instead of doing drill after drill after drill. When I took classes at the local JC we started doing scales almost instantly and kept doing those for a while (other stuff was added each class). Rocksmith doesn't do that, which means that improvement may be much slower than normal (but motivation should remain much, MUCH higher due to the songs).
 
Dark Octave said:
As a total beginner, I'll be honest and tell you that the game is more overwhelming than fun at this point, but I know the benefits and fun will come in time. The Duck game was fun and very helpful, but at this point where I am struggling to switch from yellow 1 to red 3, I really need training and lots of it.
And that's the right attitude to have. Just stick with it. Maybe watch those videos (there are also a lot of good videos at www.justinguitar.com), I want to say a few looked like basic posture/hand position videos. One thing that instructors (in my experience) really like to grind is correct hand/finger positioning, because it's stuff that might hold you up down the road (or not, some people can work around it and are amazing).
I really hope that Ubisoft puts a bit more of their marketing clout behind this game. There's been hardly any hype at all. Still hasn't been reviewed by the majority of gaming sites.
I'm worried that this is being sent out to die. I NEED this game to be popular enough to justify a good long run of dlc.
It's a very curious product but one that is practically the definition of long-tail, so a heavy marketing presence shouldn't be important. Ubisoft should be planning on selling this for years and years.
 

DrBo42

Member
Xerxes said:
I really hope that Ubisoft puts a bit more of their marketing clout behind this game. There's been hardly any hype at all. Still hasn't been reviewed by the majority of gaming sites.
I'm worried that this is being sent out to die. I NEED this game to be popular enough to justify a good long run of dlc.
Yep. Totally sent to die. Only chance this game has is word of mouth at this point.
 

Fusebox

Banned
Maddog said:
So my official Rocksmith Guitar Strap broke (the plastic part that the strap wraps around snapped). Any suggestions for what I should buy at the music store tomorrow?

For what guitar? If it's a heavy guitar you'll need a nice thick leather strap to take the weight off, or if it's a light guitar just use whatever strap has the coolest design on it.
 

lobdale

3 ft, coiled to the sky
DrBo42 said:
Yep. Totally sent to die. Only chance this game has is word of mouth at this point.

Word of mouth is the only chance this has ever had. This thing will go on and on forever, and will never cease being a good training and practice tool for budding guitarists. It is not "the new Guitar Hero," it is guitar training and practice software that lets you play along with licensed music and do drills in a fun and guided way. It's gonna sell for a good long time.
 

JaggedSac

Member
shaowebb said:
The mental mapping is pretty much par for the course on anything I want to play using this instrument considering that sheet music for Dulcimers tends to steer clear of anything other than folk, and bluegrass (I am a fan of neither). Generally I have to do GDG tuning so I can simply read sheet music made for G major playing or adapt my fretting in another tuning to read music meant for other instruments.

Rocksmith is using numbers instead of notes though? Can I get it to display notes or does it only list the letters for chords given how complex notation gets on six strings since it has so much range? Are there difficulty levels that let you play 3 string maximum settings on it like lvl 1 one string, lvl2 2 string, lvl 3 3 string kind of training modes?

Sorry to ask so many questions, but this could be a pretty good tool if I can be certain it won't crap out my scores due to lack of strings once I figure out notation conversion for it. If theres a mode that'll only attempt to score me for accuracy across 3 strings then I'm set.

Doesn't display numbers, just a colored square coming down the screen at a certain fret. And I don't think there is an option for displaying notes. They give both the chord name and the fret structure using the colored squares. Not sure how much usage you would get out of just the low three strings, most of the songs I have seen so far venture down there at least for a little bit. You can't fail a song, so nothing would stop you from doing it.
 
Should add, I just bought this on Sunday:

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Should arrive tomorrow, pretty excited. I've needed to buy an electric guitar for years, but had been holding off... and this pushed me over. Basically only wanted semi-hollow tho.
 
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