ROG Xbox Ally X - Reviews Thread

So does this wipe the floor with the S2? I would hope for twice the price it would. I assume it does DLSS or whatever and that?

Personally I will wait for the Steam Deck 2 whenever that may come
 
CrimsonTide said:
So does this wipe the floor with the S2? I would hope for twice the price it would. I assume it does DLSS or whatever and that?

Personally I will wait for the Steam Deck 2 whenever that may come
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It doesn't "wipe the floor" with anything. The difference between low end and high end in handheld PCs really isn't that large. This is all AMD tech so no DLSS. FSR3 and XeSS depending on the game.
 
Topher said:
It doesn't "wipe the floor" with anything. The difference between low end and high end in handheld PCs really isn't that large. This is all AMD tech so no DLSS. FSR3 and XeSS depending on the game.
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damn, kind of a shame. I want to see some true next gen handhelds. Probably why Valve is waiting.
 
Topher said:
It doesn't "wipe the floor" with anything. The difference between low end and high end in handheld PCs really isn't that large. This is all AMD tech so no DLSS. FSR3 and XeSS depending on the game.
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I will express my opinion, but it seems to me that all this is not the biggest problem of this device.

We just need to break away from brands and focus on general terms. The beauty of portable consoles is that we can play games on the go, but before we can do that, developers have to take devkits, create code for the console, optimize it, and make sure everything works as intended. So, when you go to a store and buy a game for any portable console, you can be confident that the game will launch and work as the developer intended. You don't need to go into settings, you don't need to fix anything, configure anything, or adjust the game. You just insert the cartridge and start playing, the developers have done all the work for you. (I understand that this is in an ideal world, and there are problems with optimization, etc. but that's not what I'm talking about.)

In this particular case, you're simply buying a mobile PC running Windows 11, with all the ensuing consequences. This means you'll need to access game settings, tweak them for optimal performance, possibly install patches or fixes, etc. Naturally, no developers have dev kits for this machine, and no one will sit and optimize games for it. All the work involved in running games falls entirely on the end user. This is still getting worse, due to the laziness of developers, the crookedness of PC ports, and the constant increase in system requirements on PC.

That is, at the moment, without the support of Microsoft and game developers, it is just a portable PC running Windows 11 and nothing more, oh yeah, I forgot, at a price of 1000$
And it seems to me that under the circumstances, this is not the best proposal.
 
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Mayar said:
I will express my opinion, but it seems to me that all this is not the biggest problem of this device.

We just need to break away from brands and focus on general terms. The beauty of portable consoles is that we can play games on the go, but before we can do that, developers have to take devkits, create code for the console, optimize it, and make sure everything works as intended. So, when you go to a store and buy a game for any portable console, you can be confident that the game will launch and work as the developer intended. You don't need to go into settings, you don't need to fix anything, configure anything, or adjust the game. You just insert the cartridge and start playing, the developers have done all the work for you. (I understand that this is in an ideal world, and there are problems with optimization, etc. but that's not what I'm talking about.)

In this particular case, you're simply buying a mobile PC running Windows 11, with all the ensuing consequences. This means you'll need to access game settings, tweak them for optimal performance, possibly install patches or fixes, etc. Naturally, no developers have dev kits for this machine, and no one will sit and optimize games for it. All the work involved in running games falls entirely on the end user. This is still getting worse, due to the laziness of developers, the crookedness of PC ports, and the constant increase in system requirements on PC.

That is, at the moment, without the support of Microsoft and game developers, it is just a portable PC running Windows 11 and nothing more, oh yeah, I forgot, at a price of 1000$
And it seems to me that under the circumstances, this is not the best proposal.
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It's fine as a niche device, which most handheld PCs are. But everything you are saying is why only a few million handheld PCs are sold every year. There is just not enough widespread appeal from either the console or gaming PC sides of the equation.
 
CrimsonTide said:
So does this wipe the floor with the S2? I would hope for twice the price it would. I assume it does DLSS or whatever and that?

Personally I will wait for the Steam Deck 2 whenever that may come
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Runs Doom TDA at 40fps apparently with mid to low settings (heard it in one review), I don't know the size of the floor you would wipe with that
 
Too expensive for what it offers. Valve had much better idea with their price point, I have no doubt Steam Deck 2 will only release when they can bring generational leap while keeping price at the same level.
 
mckmas8808 said:
Doesn't Cyberpunk 2077 look and run better on the Switch 2?
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What do you mean by running and looking better?

Switch 2: low settings, ~30fps, NPCs cut, cuts on effects, shadows and details, 450-800p DLLs

RoGXboxAlly: Medium/High PC settings, ~45+FPS (80fps framegen), 1080p FSR 3.

P.S. The fact that you can activate FSr4 in RoGXboxAlly would make the discussion completely pointless about IQ results.
 
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Just got home from work and mine was waiting when I came in. Its a slick little unit. Got a pretty big PC catalog that im excited to finally get to. Will be nice not having to load up a console or anything when going out of town for work.
 
Mayar said:
I will express my opinion, but it seems to me that all this is not the biggest problem of this device.

We just need to break away from brands and focus on general terms. The beauty of portable consoles is that we can play games on the go, but before we can do that, developers have to take devkits, create code for the console, optimize it, and make sure everything works as intended. So, when you go to a store and buy a game for any portable console, you can be confident that the game will launch and work as the developer intended. You don't need to go into settings, you don't need to fix anything, configure anything, or adjust the game. You just insert the cartridge and start playing, the developers have done all the work for you. (I understand that this is in an ideal world, and there are problems with optimization, etc. but that's not what I'm talking about.)

In this particular case, you're simply buying a mobile PC running Windows 11, with all the ensuing consequences. This means you'll need to access game settings, tweak them for optimal performance, possibly install patches or fixes, etc. Naturally, no developers have dev kits for this machine, and no one will sit and optimize games for it. All the work involved in running games falls entirely on the end user. This is still getting worse, due to the laziness of developers, the crookedness of PC ports, and the constant increase in system requirements on PC.

That is, at the moment, without the support of Microsoft and game developers, it is just a portable PC running Windows 11 and nothing more, oh yeah, I forgot, at a price of 1000$
And it seems to me that under the circumstances, this is not the best proposal.
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I predict - sometime in the far off future - that there will be games released on consoles that are barely optimized and run and look like shit. They might start having you choose between higher frame rate or higher resolution and improved graphics. Don't be surprised if eventually console games start getting patches after launch as well and there is always the chance, albeit very slim, that one day after inseeting your game cart nothing happens until you download the actual game. I know it's hard to believe but one day the disk or cart for your console game might not have the game on it.
I guess it's still better than on PC where we have to code our own games apparently.
 
Hot5pur said:
7" screen is a no go, especially after using the LEgion Go, which I got for $500 and has similar performance to this.
I suppose there are enough people with money who can justify $1000+ on these things.
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I hear you. And to read people claiming they now prefer to play everything on these compromised devices with tiny screens even when they have a large TV and decent audio system in the same room is frankly bizarre to me.

I guess it really is true that if you tell yourself something enough times you start believing it.
 
I've played around with mine a little bit since setting it up and it's pretty nice. I've never really been a PC gamer so I expected to have a slim library of games to play natively on this thing and boy I was wrong. A ton of my Xbox are installable and I like that before you purchase/install it gives you a heads up if there are any compromises to expect in handheld mode. I still haven't connected my Epic and GoG accounts which I've been collecting free games on forever but never played.
 
Love mine so far, being able to play Forza Horizon 5 on high settings at 70-90 fps on handheld feels surreal. Windows resume sucks though, takes a good 20 seconds before things become responsive again.
 
From what I'm seeing, the software experience is extremely undercooked. Shipping pre-installed Teams is just completely disconnected from what this device should be focusing on.

No idea why they felt they needed to push this out this year, it's not like the Z3 Extreme is knocking on the door yet.
 
ClanOfNone said:
Where the hell is the 2nd steam deck iteration? A handheld pc that I can jack into my tv like the switch sounds ideal to me, but the market has a shitload of these now.
$1000 is too steep for me, I basically want it to play lil indies like Fear and Hunger that never get console releases.
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I think that the issue with making a Steamdeck 2 is that technology hasn't evolved enough to propose a compelling product at a decent price. All those new handheld PCs have better performance then the SD, but cost significantly more.
 
Gtafans93 said:
That must depend on the mode because another reviewer said he ran TDA on ultra 60FPS 1080p
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It's weird cause I saw other ones, and I don't see anyone trying to run on ultra:

Here is 1080p low at 60+ fps with frame gen



Here is 900p FSR 3.1 low at 40+ fps



Here at 1080p at "handheld mode" preset (which seems to be below "low" mode) without frame gen and runs at like 40-ish

 
Mayar said:
I will express my opinion, but it seems to me that all this is not the biggest problem of this device.

We just need to break away from brands and focus on general terms. The beauty of portable consoles is that we can play games on the go, but before we can do that, developers have to take devkits, create code for the console, optimize it, and make sure everything works as intended. So, when you go to a store and buy a game for any portable console, you can be confident that the game will launch and work as the developer intended. You don't need to go into settings, you don't need to fix anything, configure anything, or adjust the game. You just insert the cartridge and start playing, the developers have done all the work for you. (I understand that this is in an ideal world, and there are problems with optimization, etc. but that's not what I'm talking about.)

In this particular case, you're simply buying a mobile PC running Windows 11, with all the ensuing consequences. This means you'll need to access game settings, tweak them for optimal performance, possibly install patches or fixes, etc. Naturally, no developers have dev kits for this machine, and no one will sit and optimize games for it. All the work involved in running games falls entirely on the end user. This is still getting worse, due to the laziness of developers, the crookedness of PC ports, and the constant increase in system requirements on PC.

That is, at the moment, without the support of Microsoft and game developers, it is just a portable PC running Windows 11 and nothing more, oh yeah, I forgot, at a price of 1000$
And it seems to me that under the circumstances, this is not the best proposal.
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But this is PC gaming in a nutshell, and it still is growing fast, with more active users than on console. Essentially, even the tinkering is what many millions of people are comfortable with.


I know FC26 is 60fps on Ally X, capped at 30fps on Switch 2. Sure, you get a simplified user experience, but you're playing at half the framerate, with worse battery life.
 
Im not getting this but I love how the argument is ITA XBOX BRANDED WOT

Its also very clearly branded ASUS ROG ALLY maybe its too much to ask for people to read.
 
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