Rogue One: A Star Wars Story |OT| They rebel - SPOILERS

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I can only imagine e what Vader's scene could be like had it not been a Disney film.

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You don't have to keep up with Star Wars news to realize there's not gonna be a sequel when every main and supporting character gets shot to death and/or vaporized by the Death Star on screen.

The main characters are engulfed in pure, blinding destruction, man. That's their exit.



there was input, when Kennedy & the creative team took it to Iger and Horn to get that input. But Lucasfilm is not the glove Mickey shoves his hands into when he gets the itch to make a Star Wars movie.

These are Lucasfilm productions. Not Disney ones.

It's funny how nobody just automatically assumes Bob Iger and Alan Horn are muscling Kevin Feige around over at Marvel, or literally pretending he and his creative teams don't exist. Wonder why that is.

I honestly really wonder why this is. Why ONLY Lucasfilm. Why does no one do this for ESPN or Marvel or Pixar? I could never figure it out.

"I really wonder what Jalen Rose would have said at halftime between the Warriors/Trailblazers game if this wasn't a Disney production" said no one ever.
 
I honestly really wonder why this is. Why ONLY Lucasfilm. Why does no one do this for ESPN or Marvel or Pixar? I could nevdr figure it out.

Pixar is animated and for kids, ESPN is sports, everyone has a hard on for Marvel, and Star Wars is sacred.

Like I don't think it's hard to figure out, especially considering the fan base.
 
I honestly really wonder why this is. Why ONLY Lucasfilm. Why does no one do this for ESPN or Marvel or Pixar? I could never figure it out.

"I really wonder what Jalen Rose would have said at halftime between the Warriors game if this wasn't a Disney production" said no one ever.
Rmemeber all the doom and gloom when Disney bought Lucasfilm? I don't remember Marvel having anything like that.
 
I mean Walt Disney has a film studio. But it is completely different than Lucasfilms film studio.

It would be like crediting Walt Disney Animation and the team behind Moana for Finding Dory.

Makes no fucking sense yet you see it constantly when it comes to Star Wars.
 
Just came back from seeing it, and it was much better than I expected ( I don't know why I had somewhat bland expectations to begin with ). Heck, I enjoyed it more than Episode VII. It was visually amazing, didn't mind Tarkin even though the CGI was pretty obvious to me ( Leia looked better ), and the ending... Man. That ending was sublime. Gave me a huge grin.

The only gripe I have is with the main actors. They're not EPI-III bad, but they're pretty wooden. Mendelsohn, though, was great.
 
You don't have to keep up with Star Wars news to realize there's not gonna be a sequel when every main and supporting character gets shot to death and/or vaporized by the Death Star on screen.

The main characters are engulfed in pure, blinding destruction, man. That's their exit.

When you think its a trilogy and the main characters apparently die, you do expect there to be some stupid twist in the next movie of how they didn't die. Why is that concept shocking to you? I didn't know they were making them stand alone films.
 
Why is that concept shocking to you?

Because you watched every character get shot or blown up, and then you watched them catch a death star blast with their dead fucking bodies.

Why did the possibility of you being wrong about a trilogy never enter your head upon seeing that?

"Huh. Maybe this isn't going to be a trilogy since everyone's fucking dead and the movie ends literally minutes before Star Wars starts."

To quote a gold-plated fussbudget we all know, "Pay attention."

Last question from me: Does Jyn take on trying to put down that Tie Fighter seen in the trailer?

That is not in the movie.
 
Damn guys lay off the hate. Yes it's pretty obvious this isnt gonna be a trilogy, but i dont believe in ripping someone a new one for asking a question.
 
Lé Blade Runner;226599915 said:
Just came back from seeing it, and it was much better than I expected ( I don't know why I had somewhat bland expectations to begin with ). Heck, I enjoyed it more than Episode VII. It was visually amazing, didn't mind Tarkin even though the CGI was pretty obvious to me ( Leia looked better ), and the ending... Man. That ending was sublime. Gave me a huge grin.

The only gripe I have is with the main actors. They're not EPI-III bad, but they're pretty wooden. Mendelsohn, though, was great.

I agree, it's better than episode 7 for me too, too bad the CGI for Leia was awful, like terrible, it's really stupid to not make it better after seeing all the quality CGI the movie has overall, I hope the movie will be successful, it deserve more success than Ep 7 IMO.
 
Damn guys lay off the hate. Yes it's pretty obvious this isnt gonna be a trilogy, but i dont believe in ripping someone a new one for asking a question.

What hate. It was a dumb question. He's tripling down, and getting needled for it. (shrug)

That's not hateful.

Some people just need to hate something, form what I understand it is very very impressive.

Again, what hate? The effect doesn't land like it wants to. That's not hate. Shit just doesn't work right. It is very impressive. It also doesn't work right. It's both at the same time.

Someone doesn't have to be LYING about disliking it to dislike it. You don't have to fabricate some sort of weird ulterior motive in order to dismiss their opinion. That shit is bizarre.
 
Because you watched every character get shot or blown up, and then you watched them catch a death star blast with their dead fucking bodies.

Why did the possibility of you being wrong about a trilogy never enter your head upon seeing that?

"Huh. Maybe this isn't going to be a trilogy since everyone's fucking dead and the movie ends literally minutes before Star Wars starts."

To quote a gold-plated fussbudget we all know, "Pay attention."
I meant gin/jyn and the guy played by Diego luna not the other characters who were shot or blown before the blast.

Its a movie and I thought there would be some miracle movie twist in the next movies (which I just found out don't exist) Don't need to seem so offended by my mistake, get over it.
 
It was an awesome movie, with an amazing final set piece.

The CGI actors were... little weird to be honest, but we seem so damn close. I think it was mostly uncanny valley that drew too much attention to them though. That will never go away, even if it's perfect.

Also, I didn't like Vader's body. his posture and stance didn't feel like Vader at all.
 
The Imperial Commander and Leia looked so fucking bad. Worst CGI I have seen in a while, and unexpected that it would show up in this movie.
 
So C-3PO and R2-D2 were left behind when the fleet (or at least part of it left), but Leia was already on the Corellian corvette.

So somehow the droids end up in the ship from Yavin, while the ship is trying to get to Yavin.
 
I don't think the whole fleet left all at once. They were scrambling fighters & stuff when they cut to that cameo, they probably didn't load up the Tantive onto Home One and take off until later.

(quick & dirty hole patching there)
 
Did I dream this up or did
Bail Organa mention both Obi Wan and a female Jedi? Or was he talking first about Obi Wan and then Leia?

Overall, really, really impressive work in tying it in to episode 4. Solid characters, great set pieces.

Tarkin
as a character and plot device were great, but the CG, even though it's technically amazing, was not good enough. That said, my mate didn't catch on so maybe it was partly just me figuring out it couldn't be him that made it obvious. The CG for
leia[ could have been avoided though. A full face close up wasn't necessary. Just having a profile shot of her bending down to record the message to Obi Wan would have sufficed and had an even better punch. /spoiler]
 
So C-3PO and R2-D2 were left behind when the fleet (or at least part of it left), but Leia was already on the Corellian corvette.

So somehow the droids end up in the ship from Yavin, while the ship is trying to get to Yavin.

That would be the assumption, yes. It's not a big deal. What about doctor evazan and ponda baba on jedha? Magically teleported to Mos Eisley during the Destruction of Jedha? Some stuff you just go ok they made it there somehow.
 
Just got back and fuck, Edwards did it. Best Star Wars movie since RotJ, by far. Like, I couldn't believe how good it was. My expectations were pretty much zero.

The only things of note I have are that Forrest Whitaker is godawful in this and Tarkin more often looks like a really weird pre-rendered gaming cutscene than an actual human. But luckily both are in the movie for a really short time.
 
Did I dream this up or did
Bail Organa mention both Obi Wan and a female Jedi? Or was he talking first about Obi Wan and then Leia?

Overall, really, really impressive work in tying it in to episode 4. Solid characters, great set pieces.

Tarkin
as a character and plot device were great, but the CG, even though it's technically amazing, was not good enough. That said, my mate didn't catch on so maybe it was partly just me figuring out it couldn't be him that made it obvious. The CG for
leia[ could have been avoided though. A full face close up wasn't necessary. Just having a profile shot of her bending down to record the message to Obi Wan would have sufficed and had an even better punch.

Bail organa
mentions finding an old Jedi buddy, Mon says he needs to use someone he can trust. Presumably he's referring to LEia as that person
 
Just got back.
The first half was kinda boring. Kinda grating actually.
But the second half was better, and the last minutes was fucking awesome! VADER IN DA HOUSE!
 
I don't think the whole fleet left all at once. They were scrambling fighters & stuff when they cut to that cameo, they probably didn't load up the Tantive onto Home One and take off until later.

(quick & dirty hole patching there)

Yeah that is what I thought also, but the scene is a bit silly.

That would be the assumption, yes. It's not a big deal. What about doctor evazan and ponda baba on jedha? Magically teleported to Mos Eisley during the Destruction of Jedha? Some stuff you just go ok they made it there somehow.

I didn't actually even realize it until my friend mentioned it. Just minor weird things.
 
Just got back from a viewing. It was good, but I overhyped myself a bit. It was visually very striking, really enjoyed many of the shots and I hadn't seen any trailers prior. The Rogue One crew wasn't all that likeable which was a shame, I much preferred the scenes with the imperials, especially Mendelsohn who stole the show for me. CG Tarkin was a nice surprise, it wasn't perfect but I thought it worked well enough. There were some gasps at Leia, that was a fun reveal.

I wish there was a bit more heart in the story though. I didn't find myself rooting for anybody really, and when characters died I felt nothing. The humor was also very flat, it was awkward how nobody laughed at 90% of the jokes in the cinema.
 
I was kind of the opposite. I totally felt the deaths. It made me ponder war and the sacrifices everyone made to get this mission done. When the rebel fleet came in as backup I was like YEEEAAAAHH..... in fact I found the emotion I was feeling to be quite prominent and perhaps stronger than many equivalent moments in other Star Wars movies.

Could be that I'm older now and having seen the others dozens of times it might be harder to put myself in that place for those films.

This movie man.... it's like the prequel you always wanted. When the prequels were coming out, the sheer joy and wonder of what lines like "when I met your father he was already a great pilot" meant was real. Finding out the back story turned out to be something quite different in feel.

Rogue One does it how you expect and more importantly, want.

And damn, Vader was terrifying in the last scenes. It capped off the whole suicide mission feel of the whole story. The movie did a fantastic job at making you feel that everyone who died made a sacrifice and were real heroes.
 
I wished the would have left the joked out and kept it really dark.

Also I would have wished Yip Man would have used the force more blatantly.

If episode 8 has this tone I'll be a happy man.

But I doubt it.
 
The one thing that stood out to me in that Vader clip is why in the hell didn't he just Force pull the guy with trying to pass the plans on seemed pretty obvious.
 
The one thing that stood out to me in that Vader clip is why in the hell didn't he just Force pull the guy with trying to pass the plans on seemed pretty obvious.

Well, Vader or not, fighting against others takes concentration. Also he may not have known what the guy was holding. Data doesn't exactly have a Force-signature. Plus he may have been angry enough not to think... There are good reasons why Dark Siders tend to fail eventually.
 
Here you go ;)

Mind you, it's entirely possible I simply forgot about one or two of those scenes, so no guarantee. This is what's missing from the trailers as far as I noticed - it's quite a lot:

From Teaser Trailer


0:32 "I rebel"
1:09 Forest Whitaker's whole monologue (he's also wearing a wig in the finished movie as in the later trailers)
1:21 That one action scene with them running (plays out completely different in the finished movie, these characters are never at this place in this configuration. A detail I find really interesting:
You can see Jyn running with the Death Star Plans attached to her belt, the sattelite dish is further back. The reshoots apparently changed a lot about the last act, since there she gets the Plans in the radar dish's building and never takes them outside.
)
1:28 MC looking past camera (not 100% sure)

From Official Trailer #1

0:38 - "Good?" Good."
0:48 "You destroyed our hope!" (not 100% sure)
0:59 "I will not kill you"
1:23 "There is a 97.6 chance of failure"
1:28 "He means well"
1:35 "This is our chance to make a real difference" (not 100% sure)
1:43 Walk on the catwalk, Fighter rising up (scene play out completely different in the movie)
1:56 Vader (seems hard to imagine this awesome shot is missing, so I'm not 100% confident, but I don't remember it from the movie at all and I wouldn't imagine I'd forget it)

From Official Trailer #2

1:15 Vader (see my last point above)
1:16 "The POWAAAH we are dealing with here..."

Thanks. I only noticed 'I rebel' and the Tie.
 
Well, Vader or not, fighting against others takes concentration. Also he may not have known what the guy was holding. Data doesn't exactly have a Force-signature. Plus he may have been angry enough not to think... There are good reasons why Dark Siders tend to fail eventually.

Pretty much.
 
I was kind of the opposite. I totally felt the deaths. It made me ponder war and the sacrifices everyone made to get this mission done. When the rebel fleet came in as backup I was like YEEEAAAAHH..... in fact I found the emotion I was feeling to be quite prominent and perhaps stronger than many equivalent moments in other Star Wars movies.
I noticed that Giacchino put in a very strong statement of the rebel theme at that moment which made it feel briefly very triumphant. I should mention that I saw Hacksaw Rigde in a cinema with far better sound last Saturday, which made the depiction of war in R1 feel generally weak.
 
Just got done watching this week's "The Star Wars Show" and they showed a clip of them shooting the Rebellion storming the beach (which isn't really in the movie) and Diego Luna's character behind a dune, and then leaping over it while apparently leading a charge of some sort?

I'm really fuckin' curious as to what the original plan for ending this movie was now. Because whatever they were doing on Scarif originally looks significantly different from what we have here.
 
I noticed that Giacchino put in a very strong statement of the rebel theme at that moment which made it feel briefly very triumphant. I should mention that I saw Hacksaw Rigde in a cinema with far better sound last Saturday, which made the depiction of war in R1 feel generally weak.
Haven't seen hacksaw ridge, but sure. Ultimately it's still a Star Wars movie and I like the balance of tone they achieved.

I also wanted to add that Rogue One is the prequel movie we always wanted. It makes you excited for finding out what happened in the past and not dumbfounded and confused like the prequels.

And I have to hand it to Rogue One. They somehow made a prequel where you more or less know where it has to end up feel like it has real stakes. Probably helped by the fact it's NOT about the main Star Wars characters from the other trilogies.
 
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