King Allant
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but in your attempt of doing that, you do the exact same thing; making drive-by insult as if that could change the situation of people feeling to him
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Roman Polanski: 'US persecuted me when they tried to extradite me'
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but in your attempt of doing that, you do the exact same thing; making drive-by insult as if that could change the situation of people feeling to him
What makes you think said posters are doing anything more than expressing simple disgust at Polanski's attitude. I think you are projecting onto those posts something that was never there. Visceral disgust at a child rapist, living a privileged life, complaining about his treatment is nothing that needs scoffing at.
User 100115
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Perhaps he generates so much hate because he's a shining example of how the wealthy tend to get away with shit, and also of American rape culture in general.
The fact that so many have convinced themselves that it wasn't actually rape, just about her being underage is disgusting.
The fact that so many have convinced themselves that it wasn't actually rape, just about her being underage is disgusting.
ConfusingJazz
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If I can't make a drive by insult at a child rapist who fled from justice and then bitches about getting away with it, who can I make a drive by insult about?
Also, what happens when you go to gaming side? Do you also make this statements when someone makes an Xbone or Wii U joke?
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
Rape should not get in the way of art when you're a genius.
...Is the quotes to live by thread still open?
King Allant
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SolidSnakex
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That's definitely part of it. Hearing people bring up his background and how he makes great movies as a reasons to leave him alone also causes the anger that people have toward him to spike. Chris Rock said it best
"Even Johnnie Cochran doesn't have the nerve to go "Well, did you see OJ play against New England?"
BaronLundi
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You're right, scoffing was probably not the right word. Lassitude ? Weariness ? I should find a better thesaurus.
And I really don't see why it would be more okay to hate on child rapists than rapists who assaulted anyone in a state of dependancy or unable to defend themselves. Pedophilia cases (or anything close to) do tend to bring out hot emotional childish responses. And this is exactly what I find problematic, bordering on scary. Angry mob hysteria. Justice doesn't do well with that.
I should rewatch M. Sums up my feelings better than I could express.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Keep it classy, Amir0x.
Ok, it's your family? Neither mine, now in the hypothetical scenario i'll feel enraged but mostly because of a faulty justice system that allowed to that. I'll wish that the system would do a proper job and he got what he deserved but don't forget that he's there is because your own justice system fucked up badly in this case, it's as much Polansky's fault as much as the judge and the rest of the system for trying to look good in this high profile case that he got to flee the country.
By the way, my most close friend was victim to this and to make matters worst from someone related, don't want to go in details about it out of respect.
As i said. I'm most baffled to the justice system that failed her and allowed to that. Also, SHE HAD MOVED ON or at leas she has tried to but the media and people in general won't leave her.
WUT? Also, not the thread for this nonsense dude.
Gentleman Jack
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It isn't, but rape is one of those under-reported, under-prosecuted crimes that horrifies everyone to the core, and while most people have a visceral and emotional reaction to it (which is fine) most will not take it to any form of mob justice and have faith that eventually the legal system will evolve into doing the right thing every time.
The reaction to Polanski is multiplied by several factors, including the fact he's wealthy and privileged and surrounded by a phalanx of wealthy and privileged allies. This shatters the aforementioned faith and people are lashing out because they feel helpless in the face of this injustice. Polanski's conduct and position in the world is a big ugly lump of things representative of the worst in humanity and society. That is the most rational thing I can think to say about him and I can't really fault human beings for not completely divorcing their emotional response from what they want to say about him in a public forum. I see little gained from asking those voices to calm down and hope for the best.
User 100115
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I think perhaps you should remember that there's a very high likelyhood that posters on this forum know victims of rape or are victims themselves. Perhaps decrying false outrage because you too know a victim isn't appropriate, since people deal with trauma and its proximity to their lives in different ways.
King Allant
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uh, I believe you misunderstand me, I saying this isn't some faux outrage over some stupid shit like in the gaming side(killer Instinct not 1080p) all of us here are just piss off this asshole is still walking around and not serving his sentence instead.
Charles Foster Kane
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It is, but what are tons of "fuck off you piece of shit" comments that he's not going to read gonna do? They get old, add nothing to a discussion and look silly; but like I said earlier, it's fine if they wanna keep shouting at clouds.
Sometimes it feels more like comments saying "look how strongly I'm against rape".
cartoon_soldier
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What a vile vile human being. Glad I haven't watched any of his movies.
All the Hollywood people who support him should be ashamed. It is very sad to see a name like Martin Scorsese on that list.
All the Hollywood people who support him should be ashamed. It is very sad to see a name like Martin Scorsese on that list.
RunWhiteBoyRun
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It's a message board. People put their opinions down. Who cares if it's yelling at clouds?
BaronLundi
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But this kind of emotional reaction (to pedophilia - I agree that rapes are under-prosecuted) has already pervaded courtrooms and the legal systems. It's not litteral lynching I'm afraid of, it's that justice isn't served well with the kind of hysterical public and media pressure these cases bring. Along with glaring instances of miscarriages of justice. Just being accused of such a crime is a sentence in itself. It shouldn't be so.
Well this is indeed a cause for outrage. And what happened in France is terryfying evidence of just that: the realization that the US justice would dare and try to reach a member of the aristorcracy without any regard to the privileges such members usually expect from local justice.
Rape is a horrible crime but in this day and age I hardly think that Polanski's conduct and/or his position has been or is in any way representative of the worst in humanity and society.
And I see little gain in brandishing pitchforks and wish for the worst either. And allthough I'm not advocating silencing anyone, adequate response does requires to divorce from emotional response. That's why justice isn't and shouldn't administered by victims, or by angry neighbours for that matter.
Gentleman Jack
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An exaggeration on my part, and I don't want to get into the things that are worse (at least he's not a serial rapist, or a rapist and a murderer, or genocidal etc etc), but he is a high-visibility intersection of 'the worst' where he commits one of the worst acts one human can inflict on another, gets away with it, and bellyaches about his treatment at the hands of a justice system he's mocked for over 30 years while enjoying membership in a protected aristocracy. I don't say this with the assumption you don't understand it, I say it because it's a lot of things to react to for people and every time he reappears in the news, it's a big rush of emotions as folks mentally recalculate Polanski's score every single time.
Oh stop it. You don't know that Roman Polanski doesn't read GAF.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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And as a matter of fact, I know he posts on here. Be on the lookout GAF, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised when you figure out who he is.
ConfusingJazz
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FACT: Woody Allen's son used to read and post on GAF
FACT: Woody Allen signed that petition
CONCLUSION: Roman Polanski might have heard about and read GAF through these links.
THEREFORE: Naysayers busted.
My words were perhaps a bit, um, crude I must admit, but I just meant to use shocking language to highlight the casualness for which this man raped this poor girl and the horrifying way he continues to evade justice.
I have no words. I can't believe any grown person would say "rape-rape," let alone use it as a qualification.
TheKaeptain
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Polanski is such a scumbag I bet Sculli would defend him.
Devolution
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"Faux outrage."
"Righteous GAF."
God this shit is getting old, especially in a thread about child rape.
"Righteous GAF."
God this shit is getting old, especially in a thread about child rape.
I'm amazed anyone would say such things.
It really makes me go WTF are people thinking.
RangersFan
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Remember when those idiots in Hollywood gave him a standing ovation at the Oscars.
Yeah, it was rape-rape-rape.
Ninja Scooter
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From what I remember based on that HBO doc, there were some shady elements to his trial and the judge, but at the end of the day, he did drug and sodomize a 13 year old girl. That much is not in question, so sorry I don't feel bad for him.
That said, Chinatown and Frantic are my shit.
That said, Chinatown and Frantic are my shit.
That list of people supporting him hurts.
Hollywood is full of people who support a rapist's freedom. That's disgusting and indefensible.
They'd probably leave her alone if Roman Polanski were behind bars and not making movies for a few dozen years.
Hollywood is full of people who support a rapist's freedom. That's disgusting and indefensible.
ComputerMKII
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Considering how many artists are assholes or outright criminals, the ability to separate the art from the artist is an useful quality to have. If all artists had to be angels there wouldn't be many good works to be appreciated.
Intheflorsh
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Why am I not suprised Asia Argento is in that list.
desertdroog
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So he shows the same audacity to illicit a plea for pity as he did to justify his raping a 13 year old girl after plying her with drugs and then evading justice by saying "everyone wants to fuck little girls"?
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/m...anski-everyone-else-fancies-little-girls-too/
He is quite the victim. >_>
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/m...anski-everyone-else-fancies-little-girls-too/
He is quite the victim. >_>
ComputerMKII
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Why?
I still can't understand how so many people could sign that petition and still stand and applaud him at the Oscars in 2003.
He plead guilty to raping someone, not only someone, but a child. It's probably the most egregious crime you can commit. Why should his filmmaking matter? Why does France allow him to stay and avoid extradition from the United States?
There are no uncertainties about this case. He did it and he didn't face the punishments for his crimes.
He plead guilty to raping someone, not only someone, but a child. It's probably the most egregious crime you can commit. Why should his filmmaking matter? Why does France allow him to stay and avoid extradition from the United States?
There are no uncertainties about this case. He did it and he didn't face the punishments for his crimes.
peanutbutterlatte
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How on earth is this piece of shit still allowed to give an interview? Like, did the interviewer not want to say "Well, in retort, you're clearly a paedophile"?
Intheflorsh
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She's nude a bunch of times in movies directed by Dario Argento (her father).
It's pretty creepy.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
If he served his sentence, would any of you allow yourselves to enjoy him as a filmmaker then? Honest question.
Yes. Just like I can read the novel of a reformed gangbanger who murdered a lot of people, served his time and is free, or watch Michael Vick and get excited for him as a football player after he served his time.
Polanski is a sick fuck who drugged and sodomized a minor and then fled the country when his money/fame wouldn't be enough to save him.
The fact he gets accolades and is allowed to act in US movies like Rush Hour 3 is ridiculous.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I'm inclined to agree. If he did his time, this would be a different debate... But it's the getting off scot free and acting like a victim that makes this situation poisonous.
The interviewer who did that could kiss his job goodbye.
Guy has too much influence and connections to insult.
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