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[King Allant]

I'm not implying that in any way, shape or form. He pleaded guilty. His guilt is not even in question, let alone the crime. And I was shocked by the reaction the European and Filmmaking elite who didn't expect that one of their most talented peers would not be treated as above the law in the US (as sadly, he probably would over here).

But, yeah, at the same time I'm one of those (couple of guys it seems) scoffing both at the people making drive-by insults as if they were bringing justice and at the amount of hate this specific guy generates in this forum.

but in your attempt of doing that, you do the exact same thing; making drive-by insult as if that could change the situation of people feeling to him

 

[remist]

I'm not implying that in any way, shape or form. He pleaded guilty. His guilt is not even in question, let alone the crime. And I was shocked by the reaction the European and Filmmaking elite who didn't expect that one of their most talented peers would not be treated as above the law in the US (as sadly, he probably would over here).

But, yeah, at the same time I'm one of those (couple of guys it seems) scoffing both at the people making drive-by insults as if they were bringing justice and at the amount of hate this specific guy generates in this forum.

What makes you think said posters are doing anything more than expressing simple disgust at Polanski's attitude. I think you are projecting onto those posts something that was never there. Visceral disgust at a child rapist, living a privileged life, complaining about his treatment is nothing that needs scoffing at.

 

[User 100115]

Perhaps he generates so much hate because he's a shining example of how the wealthy tend to get away with shit, and also of American rape culture in general.


The fact that so many have convinced themselves that it wasn't actually rape, just about her being underage is disgusting.

 

[ConfusingJazz]

I'm not implying that in any way, shape or form. He pleaded guilty. His guilt is not even in question, let alone the crime. And I was shocked by the reaction the European and Filmmaking elite who didn't expect that one of their most talented peers would not be treated as above the law in the US (as sadly, he probably would over here).

But, yeah, at the same time I'm one of those (couple of guys it seems) scoffing both at the people making drive-by insults as if they were bringing justice and at the amount of hate this specific guy generates in this forum.

If I can't make a drive by insult at a child rapist who fled from justice and then bitches about getting away with it, who can I make a drive by insult about?

Also, what happens when you go to gaming side? Do you also make this statements when someone makes an Xbone or Wii U joke?

 

[hipbabboom]

Some people don't know how to appreciate a true artist.

Rape should not get in the way of art when you're a genius.

...Is the quotes to live by thread still open?

 

[King Allant]

Rape should not get in the way of art when you're a genius.

...Is the quotes to live by thread still open?

yes

 

[SolidSnakex]

Perhaps he generates so much hate because he's a shining example of how the wealthy tend to get away with shit, and also of American rape culture in general.


The fact that so many have convinced themselves that it wasn't actually rape, just about her being underage is disgusting.

That's definitely part of it. Hearing people bring up his background and how he makes great movies as a reasons to leave him alone also causes the anger that people have toward him to spike. Chris Rock said it best

"Even Johnnie Cochran doesn't have the nerve to go "Well, did you see OJ play against New England?"

 

[Amir0x]

hey i wonder if the girl he raped thought that Polanski persecuted her when he tried to extradite himself on her tits.

What a fucking monster this guy is

 

[BaronLundi]

The insults are childish but his crime tends to evoke a hot emotional response.
Why scoff at the hate? He's a child rapist. I think on the list of things it's okay to hate, child rapist is high up there. He certainly demonstrates his scorn for the people who want him brought to justice and paints himself only as the victim in his case.

Also, the juxtaposition of 'righteous GAF making itself feel superior' and admitting to 'scoffing' at any target is interesting.

You're right, scoffing was probably not the right word. Lassitude ? Weariness ? I should find a better thesaurus.

And I really don't see why it would be more okay to hate on child rapists than rapists who assaulted anyone in a state of dependancy or unable to defend themselves. Pedophilia cases (or anything close to) do tend to bring out hot emotional childish responses. And this is exactly what I find problematic, bordering on scary. Angry mob hysteria. Justice doesn't do well with that.

I should rewatch M. Sums up my feelings better than I could express.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

hey i wonder if the girl he raped thought that Polanski persecuted her when he tried to extradite himself on her tits.

What a fucking monster this guy is

Keep it classy, Amir0x.

 

[Dai101]

Wonder how you'd feel if it was one of your friends or family who got raped while the scumbag remains free to nibble on croissants in Paris with an army of douchebag celebrities at his back.

Ok, it's your family? Neither mine, now in the hypothetical scenario i'll feel enraged but mostly because of a faulty justice system that allowed to that. I'll wish that the system would do a proper job and he got what he deserved but don't forget that he's there is because your own justice system fucked up badly in this case, it's as much Polansky's fault as much as the judge and the rest of the system for trying to look good in this high profile case that he got to flee the country.

By the way, my most close friend was victim to this and to make matters worst from someone related, don't want to go in details about it out of respect.

If a brutal rape of a 13 year old child along with the perpetrators escape from justice is nothing to be outraged about, then what is?

As i said. I'm most baffled to the justice system that failed her and allowed to that. Also, SHE HAD MOVED ON or at leas she has tried to but the media and people in general won't leave her.

nah the faux outrage is all the people mad that killer instinct isn't 1080p or at Xbox one even doe is doesn't have drm anymore

WUT? Also, not the thread for this nonsense dude.

 

[Gentleman Jack]

And I really don't see why it would be more okay to hate on child rapists than rapists who assaulted anyone in a state of dependancy or unable to defend themselves.

It isn't, but rape is one of those under-reported, under-prosecuted crimes that horrifies everyone to the core, and while most people have a visceral and emotional reaction to it (which is fine) most will not take it to any form of mob justice and have faith that eventually the legal system will evolve into doing the right thing every time.

The reaction to Polanski is multiplied by several factors, including the fact he's wealthy and privileged and surrounded by a phalanx of wealthy and privileged allies. This shatters the aforementioned faith and people are lashing out because they feel helpless in the face of this injustice. Polanski's conduct and position in the world is a big ugly lump of things representative of the worst in humanity and society. That is the most rational thing I can think to say about him and I can't really fault human beings for not completely divorcing their emotional response from what they want to say about him in a public forum. I see little gained from asking those voices to calm down and hope for the best.

 

[User 100115]

Ok, it's your family? Neither mine, now in the hypothetical scenario i'll feel enraged but mostly because of a faulty justice system that allowed to that.

I think perhaps you should remember that there's a very high likelyhood that posters on this forum know victims of rape or are victims themselves. Perhaps decrying false outrage because you too know a victim isn't appropriate, since people deal with trauma and its proximity to their lives in different ways.

 

[King Allant]

WUT? Also, not the thread for this nonsense dude.

uh, I believe you misunderstand me, I saying this isn't some faux outrage over some stupid shit like in the gaming side(killer Instinct not 1080p) all of us here are just piss off this asshole is still walking around and not serving his sentence instead.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

If a brutal rape of a 13 year old child along with the perpetrators escape from justice is nothing to be outraged about, then what is?

It is, but what are tons of "fuck off you piece of shit" comments that he's not going to read gonna do? They get old, add nothing to a discussion and look silly; but like I said earlier, it's fine if they wanna keep shouting at clouds.

Sometimes it feels more like comments saying "look how strongly I'm against rape".

 

[FStop7]

Won't somebody please think of the rapists?

 

[Big One]

Chris Benoit was one of the greatest wreslters of all time, but he's still a piece of shit. Same with Polanski; dude deserves prison for life.

 

[cartoon_soldier]

What a vile vile human being. Glad I haven't watched any of his movies.

All the Hollywood people who support him should be ashamed. It is very sad to see a name like Martin Scorsese on that list.

 

[RunWhiteBoyRun]

It is, but what are tons of "fuck off you piece of shit" comments that he's not going to read gonna do? They get old, add nothing to a discussion and look silly; but like I said earlier, it's fine if they wanna keep shouting at clouds.

Sometimes it feels more like comments saying "look how strongly I'm against rape".

It's a message board. People put their opinions down. Who cares if it's yelling at clouds?

 

[BaronLundi]

It isn't, but rape is one of those under-reported, under-prosecuted crimes that horrifies everyone to the core, and while most people have a visceral and emotional reaction to it (which is fine) most will not take it to any form of mob justice and have faith that eventually the legal system will evolve into doing the right thing every time.

But this kind of emotional reaction (to pedophilia - I agree that rapes are under-prosecuted) has already pervaded courtrooms and the legal systems. It's not litteral lynching I'm afraid of, it's that justice isn't served well with the kind of hysterical public and media pressure these cases bring. Along with glaring instances of miscarriages of justice. Just being accused of such a crime is a sentence in itself. It shouldn't be so.

The reaction to Polanski is multiplied by several factors, including the fact he's wealthy and privileged and surrounded by a phalanx of wealthy and privileged allies. This shatters the aforementioned faith and people are lashing out because they feel helpless in the face of this injustice.

Well this is indeed a cause for outrage. And what happened in France is terryfying evidence of just that: the realization that the US justice would dare and try to reach a member of the aristorcracy without any regard to the privileges such members usually expect from local justice.

Polanski's conduct and position in the world is a big ugly lump of things representative of the worst in humanity and society. That is the most rational thing I can think to say about him and I can't really fault human beings for not completely divorcing their emotional response from what they want to say about him in a public forum. I see little gained from asking those voices to calm down and hope for the best.

Rape is a horrible crime but in this day and age I hardly think that Polanski's conduct and/or his position has been or is in any way representative of the worst in humanity and society.

And I see little gain in brandishing pitchforks and wish for the worst either. And allthough I'm not advocating silencing anyone, adequate response does requires to divorce from emotional response. That's why justice isn't and shouldn't administered by victims, or by angry neighbours for that matter.

 

[Gentleman Jack]

Rape is a horrible horrible crime but in this day and age I hardly think that Polanski's conduct and/or his position has been or is in any way representative of the worst in humanity and society.

An exaggeration on my part, and I don't want to get into the things that are worse (at least he's not a serial rapist, or a rapist and a murderer, or genocidal etc etc), but he is a high-visibility intersection of 'the worst' where he commits one of the worst acts one human can inflict on another, gets away with it, and bellyaches about his treatment at the hands of a justice system he's mocked for over 30 years while enjoying membership in a protected aristocracy. I don't say this with the assumption you don't understand it, I say it because it's a lot of things to react to for people and every time he reappears in the news, it's a big rush of emotions as folks mentally recalculate Polanski's score every single time.

 

[Nokagi]

It is, but what are tons of "fuck off you piece of shit" comments that he's not going to read gonna do? They get old, add nothing to a discussion and look silly; but like I said earlier, it's fine if they wanna keep shouting at clouds.

Sometimes it feels more like comments saying "look how strongly I'm against rape".

Oh stop it. You don't know that Roman Polanski doesn't read GAF.

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

Oh stop it. You don't know that Roman Polanski doesn't read GAF.

And as a matter of fact, I know he posts on here. Be on the lookout GAF, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised when you figure out who he is.

 

[ConfusingJazz]

Oh stop it. You don't know that Roman Polanski doesn't read GAF.

FACT: Woody Allen's son used to read and post on GAF
FACT: Woody Allen signed that petition

CONCLUSION: Roman Polanski might have heard about and read GAF through these links.
THEREFORE: Naysayers busted.

 

[Amir0x]

Keep it classy, Amir0x.

My words were perhaps a bit, um, crude I must admit, but I just meant to use shocking language to highlight the casualness for which this man raped this poor girl and the horrifying way he continues to evade justice.

 

[enzo_gt]

I'm surprised Whoopi Goldberg's awful defense hasn't been brought up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZskUvAGyjQ

"It wasn't rape-rape."

I have no words. I can't believe any grown person would say "rape-rape," let alone use it as a qualification.

 

[TheKaeptain]

Polanski is such a scumbag I bet Sculli would defend him.

 

[Devolution]

"Faux outrage."
"Righteous GAF."

God this shit is getting old, especially in a thread about child rape.

 

[Savitar]

"Faux outrage."
"Righteous GAF."

God this shit is getting old, especially in a thread about child rape.

I'm amazed anyone would say such things.

It really makes me go WTF are people thinking.

 

[kingkitty]

Of all the celebrities to defend Roman Polanski, I'm least surprised by Woody Allen.

 

[RangersFan]

Remember when those idiots in Hollywood gave him a standing ovation at the Oscars.

 

[Aristion]

Like George Lopez says, FTP

Spoiler

FUCK THAT PUTO

 

[Giygas AF]

I'm surprised Whoopi Goldberg's awful defense hasn't been brought up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZskUvAGyjQ

"It wasn't rape-rape."

Yeah, it was rape-rape-rape.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

From what I remember based on that HBO doc, there were some shady elements to his trial and the judge, but at the end of the day, he did drug and sodomize a 13 year old girl. That much is not in question, so sorry I don't feel bad for him.

That said, Chinatown and Frantic are my shit.

 

[Toxi]

That list of people supporting him hurts.

As i said. I'm most baffled to the justice system that failed her and allowed to that. Also, SHE HAD MOVED ON or at leas she has tried to but the media and people in general won't leave her.

They'd probably leave her alone if Roman Polanski were behind bars and not making movies for a few dozen years.

Hollywood is full of people who support a rapist's freedom. That's disgusting and indefensible.

 

[ComputerMKII]

God, I cannot believe this piece of shit can continue to make movies. Chinatown is a masterpiece and I can hardly separate the art from the artist.

Considering how many artists are assholes or outright criminals, the ability to separate the art from the artist is an useful quality to have. If all artists had to be angels there wouldn't be many good works to be appreciated.

 

[charsace]

Talented, but he is piece of shit that should have served prison time.

 

[Valnen]

I'm angry that he hasn't been extradited. Huge injustice right there. He's subhuman trash. No other way of saying it.

 

[Intheflorsh]

Why am I not suprised Asia Argento is in that list.

 

[desertdroog]

So he shows the same audacity to illicit a plea for pity as he did to justify his raping a 13 year old girl after plying her with drugs and then evading justice by saying "everyone wants to fuck little girls"?

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/m...anski-everyone-else-fancies-little-girls-too/

He is quite the victim. >_>

 

[BIGWORM]

Humans make mistakes. We should all learn to forgive and forget.

Spoiler

Nah. Fuck this guy!

 

[PsychBat!]

Awwww, boo hoo for you.

Idiotic piece of crap.

 

[ComputerMKII]

Why am I not suprised Asia Argento is in that list.

Why?

 

[JABEE]

I still can't understand how so many people could sign that petition and still stand and applaud him at the Oscars in 2003.

He plead guilty to raping someone, not only someone, but a child. It's probably the most egregious crime you can commit. Why should his filmmaking matter? Why does France allow him to stay and avoid extradition from the United States?

There are no uncertainties about this case. He did it and he didn't face the punishments for his crimes.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

How on earth is this piece of shit still allowed to give an interview? Like, did the interviewer not want to say "Well, in retort, you're clearly a paedophile"?

 

[Intheflorsh]

Why?

She's nude a bunch of times in movies directed by Dario Argento (her father).

It's pretty creepy.

 

[BocoDragon]

If he served his sentence, would any of you allow yourselves to enjoy him as a filmmaker then? Honest question.

 

[Madness]

If he served his sentence, would any of you allow yourselves to enjoy him as a filmmaker then? Honest question.

Yes. Just like I can read the novel of a reformed gangbanger who murdered a lot of people, served his time and is free, or watch Michael Vick and get excited for him as a football player after he served his time.

Polanski is a sick fuck who drugged and sodomized a minor and then fled the country when his money/fame wouldn't be enough to save him.

The fact he gets accolades and is allowed to act in US movies like Rush Hour 3 is ridiculous.

 

[BocoDragon]

Yes. Just like I can read the novel of a reformed gangbanger who murdered a lot of people, served his time and is free, or watch Michael Vick and get excited for him as a football player after he served his time.

Polanski is a sick fuck who drugged and sodomized a minor and then fled the country when his money/fame wouldn't be enough to save him.

The fact he gets accolades and is allowed to act in US movies like Rush Hour 3 is ridiculous.

I'm inclined to agree. If he did his time, this would be a different debate... But it's the getting off scot free and acting like a victim that makes this situation poisonous.

 

[Kurtofan]

How on earth is this piece of shit still allowed to give an interview? Like, did the interviewer not want to say "Well, in retort, you're clearly a paedophile"?

The interviewer who did that could kiss his job goodbye.

Guy has too much influence and connections to insult.