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Rose McGowan: Ben Affleck is Lying, he knew about Weinstein raping me and other women
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Same DA who dropped the case with the Trump kids. Dude is corrupt as fuck.
WordsintheWater
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Are we really going to act like most famous actors didn't know this was going on? They continued to work and publicly speak highly of him. Everything that's coming out with this story should be pretty clear that Affleck wasn't the only one that didn't speak up.
His intention is to portray that he is shocked at the accusations. When he's known about them for a long time. Sure he's dancing around with words giving himself wiggle room in regards to knowing full well what was going on, but it's fair to call him a liar.
ArtHands
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He said all of us should condemn the behavior, when he's the one keeping silence and not exposing it despite knowing it.
If the accusation here is true, Ben Affleck is seriously a POS human.
Interesting. Yep, he is doing favours. Scum.
100,000 is really not that much money.
I think you'll find the majority of Hollywood are POS humans in that regard.
MosquitoSmasher
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Like the stuff with Nelly, how can we be 100% sure she is telling the truth? I hate to jump to conclusions and just condemn Affleck right there without having done any research of my own, you know, actually knowing what I'm talking about.
There is a video. It doesnt show clearly what shes describing but its cut in a way that you cant tell so you can only go by her description of the event.
She has nothing to gain from accusing Affleck here. Affleck has a lot to gain by convincing people he didn't know. It makes no sense to give Affleck the benefit of the doubt instead of McGowan.
Sunster
Member
what does she gain from lying?
Chmpocalypse
Blizzard
The set dressing is just collapsing. This was always there. The United States is a sick country.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
I see. Well I'm sure this won't be the last we've heard of it.
I guess you guys have a point. I have to admit I'm completely new to this news and I don't fully keep up with all the updates. Now that we're on this subject anyway, how did all of this start? Why did it take this long for this horrible news to come out, for these women to come forward?
And what about Matt Damon? Always thought that was a damn stand up dude, he's in on this as well then?
A while ago I saw some videos on YouTube about the allegedly sickening things happening in the music industry as well, and in this case it was Hiphop. I laughed at a lot of things because they just sounded impossible to me, because you know, there are plenty of absurd conspiracy theory videos out there, but I guess this just shows never say never.
Killing_Joke
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I've read the statement a couple times and honestly don't get how this got overblown. We don't know what he knows or how detailed that conversation even went.
Sure he could have said he knew something but who the fuck are we to have him admit stuff like that?
Sure he could have said he knew something but who the fuck are we to have him admit stuff like that?
CecilRousso
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I wouldn't bother condemning him based on he said/she said. When someone is proven without a doubt to have done/said something worthy of condemning, sure. But we who are looking at this from a distance really don't have to personally engage us in every single part of this mess.
Sometimes it's better to acknowledge that not every battle is yours to take.
Sunster
Member
He is a very powerful man who can end or cripple you career. He knows this, that makes him a predator. These people didn't imagine other victims, they assumed they were alone. What could they alone do against him? what could they lose by speaking out? history says they probably will be labeled a liar and lose everything.
MosquitoSmasher
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Well said man. That's very true as well. But goddamn what a mess this has become. It does make you wonder what else happens there, not talking about Affleck but Weinstein.
I didn't think of it that way but it does make sense. So how did all of this got out into the public recently? One woman decided it was time to step up and reveal it? Genuine question because I haven't had the time to really keep up with it and how it all started.
But I am interested in reading up more on this, so what usually is a credible source that mostly gives facts and certainly no tabloid trash?
hodayathink
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For everyone that's upset specifically about Ben Affleck because "he knew and didn't do anything", I hope you feel the same way about Brad Pitt, who has confirmed that he's known at least one story for over 20 years (he confirmed Paltrow's story, and that would have taken place in the mid 90s), was married to another victim in Jolie (and I wouldn't be shocked if Jennifer Aniston had a story to tell as well), and all he did was to tell Harvey not to touch Paltrow (which in the grand scheme of things is about as effective as Ben's "stop doing that", and even Paltrow says that after the incident he was still verbally abusive).
ArtHands
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This thread is not about Brad Pitt though. Lets refocus on Ben Affleck.
Shadowhelper
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Pitt is not pretending it's a shock and is not closely associated with him like affleck
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you really shouldn't have ever trusted even a single person there. It's rotten to the core.
Unfortunately when it comes to this issue the sickness is worldwide.
CopperPuppy
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Joke post? You realize you're talking about someone who publicly worships Weinstein and flew out of her seat to give a standing ovation to a child rapist, right?
Streep is Hollywood personified.
Sunster
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It always starts with one victim coming forward. That is why it is more important to believe a potential victim than to assume lie and protect a possible predator. All these #skeptics are the reason women don't come forward. Society is more concerned with the slight possibility of a fake accusation than the vast majority which are real.
entremet
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Why put your trust in Hollywood at all? Trust is earned.
hodayathink
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I do agree that there are things to be mad at him about (the wishy-washy statement, this TRL incident, Casey), just that "he knew and didn't do anything" isn't a particularly great one.
Edit: And through Tarantino, Pitt's starred in a Weinstein movie more recently than Ben has, I believe.
xBladeM6x
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The most sensible post on the entire forum.
PsihoPerihelion
Member
I mean, he never said shit about Cassey. This ain't surprising at all.
There is no way Tarantino was clueless about this. He's even closer to Weinstein than Affleck and Damon. Same goes for Kevin Smith.
MosquitoSmasher
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That is actually a damn good post yeah. It's very easy indeed to sit behind our computers and judge these folks. But I do wonder at the same time where we draw the line. I mean do we pardon everyone that was close to Weinstein and that didn't come forward? It's a goddamn tough subject and absolutely horrible.
I dunno, but here she is giving a standing ovation to a convicted child rapist:
every time this comes up I always laugh at Nic Cage. He has no idea what's going on.
Affleck might genuinely be in shock about the scale of it. Knowing about a few incidents isn't the same as knowing everything.
MosquitoSmasher
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Hold on, we talking about Jack Nicholson here? Who was he cheering on here?
ClosingADoor
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They were applauding Polanski.
On Roman Polanski, who raped a 13 year old girl in Nicholson's own house.
Bill R Boggess
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We'd have to know the context of the situation and if Paltrow asked Brad not to come forward or do more.
Clearly, many of the victims didn't want this to come to light and nobody has a right to tell them how to proceed. For all we know, Brad was respecting their wishes.
Bill R Boggess
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A lot of liberal Hollywood gave Polanski a pass and what he did clearly should have gotten his ass thrown in prison for many years.
No, it's when they all cheered for Roman Polanski when he won an Oscar. Nic Cage looks around so confused like he just woke up.
https://youtu.be/PXnNOBj26lk?t=57
edit: bonus Harvey Weinstein at 1:17
AuthenticM
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I'm wondering if he was the one who grabbed Crews.
MosquitoSmasher
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Jesus christ. But I'm assuming he wasn't aware of the rape I hope? Otherwise you'd think he would have been caught as well. I had no idea about this.
EDIT, Polanski was never put behind bars for that?
I mean, the giant gaping hole in the "everyone knew the full extent" theory is that Obama sent his teenage daughter to intern for the guy. The guy who had the CIA, FBI, and NSA on call didn't know the full extent.
This is kind of relevant.
Harvey Weinstein said:
He was sentenced but fled prior and went into hiding.
entremet
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He skipped out to France before the trial started.Jesus christ. But I'm assuming he wasn't aware of the rape I hope? Otherwise you'd think he would have been caught as well. I had no idea about this.
EDIT, Polanski was never put behind bars for that?
Jesus christ. But I'm assuming he wasn't aware of the rape I hope? Otherwise you'd think he would have been caught as well. I had no idea about this.
EDIT, Polanski was never put behind bars for that?
Polanski fled the country in 1978 before sentencing and has been a fugitive ever since living in Europe. But despite that he's still continued to direct major motion pictures, like The Pianist which won him best picture and best director, with massive movies stars who have bent over backwards to film in locations that won't extradite him to the US and throw him in jail.
Do you work in Hollywood? I'm guessing you probably don't.
Then maybe you shouldn't blindly jump on these actor's nuts. Enjoy their movies, but outside of that don't invest too much time in to whatever they do.
Sunster
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lol what a post.
CopperPuppy
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Jesus christ. But I'm assuming he wasn't aware of the rape I hope? Otherwise you'd think he would have been caught as well. I had no idea about this.
EDIT, Polanski was never put behind bars for that?
Everyone was aware at the time of that picture. Harvey Weinstein himself has infamously called for his release. Predators feel for other predators, I suppose. You should probably read this to see how many other actors/directors you respect have come to the vigorous defense of this piece of shit. Be under no illusions about this: Hollywood is garbage - for every Keanu Reeves there are ten Donald Trumps and Harvey Weinsteins.
MosquitoSmasher
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Good lord. And France couldn't just send him back?
This reminds me of a thread here, I think it was early this year or last year and it was about a Hollywood actor, was a big child actor and he had horrible things to say about pedophilia in Hollywood.