Rottenwatch: AVATAR (82%)

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After seeing a spoiler, I have lost almost all enthusiasm for this movie :(. I really do hope it's good, but I'm barely even motivated to reserve tickets.
 
AlternativeUlster said:
Me too. Should be a good romp instead of Terra pt. 2.
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So by saying Avatar was really much, much better than expected, that it looked amazing and that the story was gripping – if cheesy in many places – the Guardian is in technical breach of the agreement. It is not a breach, however, to report that other journalists leaving the screening were also positive: the terrible film that some had been anticipating had not materialised. It was good.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/dec/10/james-cameron-avatar-preview
 
PrivateWHudson said:
After seeing a spoiler, I have lost almost all enthusiasm for this movie :(. I really do hope it's good, but I'm barely even motivated to reserve tickets.
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Yeah, some idiot spoiled something about the movie in Sculli's last thread. Then one of the newer TV spots showed basically the entire plot to the movie even more than full trailers. It was pretty bad.
 
Plainview is currently enjoying life:

- No cell phones...see everyone in 3 hours! 22 minutes ago from txt

- Made it to the theater for Avatar! No one really here yet, but heavy security. Can't wait to see this movie :) 44 minutes ago from txt

Should know how his sandwich was in 3 hours.
 
I'll be there. I'm not extraordinarily hyped about seeing it despite it being on my radar for years, but I'll be there.

The trailers are very basic and holding back (intentionally i hope).
I look forward to seeing what surprises Cameron will throw at us.
 
Karma Kramer said:
Sweet, I wonder when/if we will hear negative feedback...
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omg rite said:
Yeah, some idiot spoiled something about the movie in Sculli's last thread. Then one of the newer TV spots showed basically the entire plot to the movie even more than full trailers. It was pretty bad.
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The idea of it being spoiled didn't burst my bubble. I willingly read the spoiler, but I didn't like what I read. I can only hope now that it was a false report, and things go differently; however, my expectations have dropped considerably.
 
PrivateWHudson said:
The idea of it being spoiled didn't burst my bubble. I willingly read the spoiler, but I didn't like what I read. I can only hope now that it was a false report, and things go differently; however, my expectations have dropped considerably.
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Why would you willingly read a spoiler?
 
Glad I dodged that spoiler. I want to walk into this movie as fresh as I can, even though I imagine it's going to be much more about the ride than the conclusion.

Titanic's ending wasn't anything fantastic, but the ride up to that point was incredible.
 
Karma Kramer said:
Why would you willingly read a spoiler?
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Why not? I know the ending to hundreds of movies, but I can watch them over and over without loosing any enjoyment. I don't read every spoiler, but I peek here and there.
 
I love how Armond White legitimized himself by basically trolling the film industry.

His opinion matters now because he's gone so far out of his way to be so contrarian. :lol

As far as movie reviewers go, he's in the list of 4-5 that I know by name :lol
 
PrivateWHudson said:
Why not? I know the ending to hundreds of movies, but I can watch them over and over without loosing any enjoyment. I don't read every spoiler, but I peek here and there.
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But without seeing it ever, when you do see it, you'll be guessing as the film goes a long how things will unfold, instead of just experiencing everything as it happens. I can understand how if you've seen a movie going back is still sometimes just as enjoyable, but thats mainly cause you no longer are paying any attention to how things will unfold.
 
Mr. Snrub said:
What was it?
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Major Fucking End of Movie Spoiler

I warned you

The last scene...


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His soul magically leaves his human body and he wakes up in his Avatar body

/Major Fucking End of Movie Spoiler
 
Great thread Sculli.

I'll be seeing this in plain jane High Def next Thursday evening/morning. Looking forward to this! :D
 
I'm not going to read the end spoilers but I imagine the ending is going to be extremely cheesy.

At this point in time I'm just hoping that Avatar really delivers the best action I've seen in a long time - that's all I'm going for and anything else will be a welcome surprise. While I expect the film to be better written and acted than summer blockbuster crap like Transformers, or Wolverine, Cameron does include quite a lot of cheese in his movies so I am expecting to wince once or twice due to cheesy dialog.

I gave up on expecting a movie anywhere near as good as Terminator (yes Terminator since I think its superior to T2), or Aliens, the moment I saw the first trailer. All I'm expecting is a cheesy blockbuster movie done very well, by a director far superior to hacks like Bay.
 
PrivateWHudson said:
Major Fucking End of Movie Spoiler

I warned you

The last scene...


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His soul magically leaves his human body and he wakes up in his Avatar body

/Major Fucking End of Movie Spoiler
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PrivateWHudson said:
Major Fucking End of Movie Spoiler

I warned you

The last scene...


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His soul magically leaves his human body and he wakes up in his Avatar body

/Major Fucking End of Movie Spoiler
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Wow. It's like Cameron stole
the shitty ending from Terminator: Salvation.
 
NutJobJim said:
I'm not going to read the end spoilers but I imagine the ending is going to be extremely cheesy.

At this point in time I'm just hoping that Avatar really delivers the best action I've seen in a long time - that's all I'm going for and anything else will be a welcome surprise. While I expect the film to be better written and acted than summer blockbuster crap like Transformers, or Wolverine, Cameron does include quite a lot of cheese in his movies so I am expecting to wince once or twice due to cheesy dialog.

I gave up on expecting a movie anywhere near as good as Terminator (yes Terminator since I think its superior to T2), or Aliens, the moment I saw the first trailer. All I'm expecting is a cheesy blockbuster movie done very well, by a director far superior to hacks like Bay.
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For the record, I LOVE cheesy shit. Especially Cameron's special brand of cheese. This ain't cheese. I really hope that it either just somehow "works", or the spoiler was a misinterpretation or outright BS.
 
Looking forward to it. The story will most likely be nothing special but the action should be worth it. Of course I haven't been as emotionally invested as other people have in this movie (Sculli) which is why the only real cost for me is the ticket, and I'm sure the movie will be worth more than that.

Speaking of Sculli, what happens to him after the movie is released, and the reviews are out and the discussion of the reviews have taken place? Does he just...disappear?
 
PrivateWHudson said:
Major Fucking End of Movie Spoiler

I warned you

The last scene...


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His soul magically leaves his human body and he wakes up in his Avatar body

/Major Fucking End of Movie Spoiler
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You know, if this is a pure asspull at the end then yeah, it's hyper cheesy, almost impossible to swallow. However if there's some throwaway reference to a copy of mindstate remaining in a clone body if the operator is unplugged in the wrong way, then it would be a predictable but ultimately acceptable twist ending.
 
PrivateWHudson said:
For the record, I LOVE cheesy shit. Especially Cameron's special brand of cheese. This ain't cheese. I really hope that it either just somehow "works", or the spoiler was a misinterpretation or outright BS.
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On paper, the ending to T2 is incredibly cheesy, but it's far from it in execution. (Titanic, as well.)
 
joey_z said:
Speaking of Sculli, what happens to him after the movie is released, and the reviews are out and the discussion of the reviews have taken place? Does he just...disappear?
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His soul magically leaves his human body and he wakes up in his Avatar body
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8406868.stm
BBC said:
Cameron, 55, is unlikely to be worried - having proved critics wrong in the past.

Titanic, released in 1997, suffered bad advance publicity, with rumours of production problems and spiralling budgets - but it went on to win 11 Academy Awards and take $1.8bn (£1.1bn) at the worldwide box office.
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Do not forget this. Never forget this.
 
Big-E said:
What does Titanic have to do with Avatar? Avatar is not going to do anything close to Titanic financially and critically so I have no idea why it always gets brought up.
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It's the last movie Cameron directed?

Cameron has a strong history at the box office, and it will be a surprise if Avatar doesn't do well. Comparisons to Titanic are inevitable, but need to be in the right context.
 
I'm still waiting for jett an his friends to come to the table about the 40M tracking thing. What a bunch of morans. :lol :lol :lol
 
Noshino said:
His soul magically leaves his human body and he wakes up in his Avatar body
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If that was the ending and you spoiled it for me, you are a real piece of shit. Hope you get banned XI
 
GhaleonEB said:
It's the last movie Cameron directed?

Cameron has a strong history at the box office, and it will be a surprise if Avatar doesn't do well. Comparisons to Titanic are inevitable, but need to be in the right context.
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Going from the previous threads and this one, it seems like people hold up Titanic as this bastion of proof that Avatar is going to clean house financially and at the Oscars when they are completely different movies marketed at completely different people based on trailers.
 
Big-E said:
Going from the previous threads and this one, it seems like people hold up Titanic as this bastion of proof that Avatar is going to clean house financially and at the Oscars when they are completely different movies marketed at completely different people based on trailers.
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People talking Oscars are kind of ridiculous, IMO.

I think Cameron's overall box office record is a better argument for how Avatar will do, rather than Titanic. But given it's the first movie he's made since Titanic, the comparisons are inevitable.
 
Big-E said:
What does Titanic have to do with Avatar? Avatar is not going to do anything close to Titanic financially and critically so I have no idea why it always gets brought up.
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Critically, we won't know until later on.

Financially, it'll be pretty damn hard to do the same numbers as Titanic. Okay, almost impossible. And I honestly don't think Cameron is aiming for those numbers.

This looks like a film Cameron is proud of, and sees as something he's always wanted to do. All the financial return in his invest he cares about, is hoping it does enough for him to make a part 2 and 3.
 
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