Rottenwatch: AVATAR (82%)

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Red Scarlet said:
Are they coming out with a non-3d version? I can't watch 3d movies.

Maybe I should sue Cameron for the profits and be a bazillionaire.
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Of course there's gonna be 2D showings. The vast majority will be 2D actually. :P
 
see5harp said:
Who cares either way? Would average to bad impressions of the story keep you at home when this shit is playing in IMAX with digital 3D? Come on people you paid to see Transformers 2 and GI fucking JOE.
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Hey, not all of us did. :D
 
Well, every time I see it's going to be in 3d it pretty much just goes completely off my radar until it hits DVD. I know Coraline eventually came out with a non 3d one.
 
Zeliard said:
I wouldn't really say that there's any important difference between "this movie is awesome" and "this movie has awesome CGI and story", but I digress.
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Errr *again* stay with me here, Zeliard. In fact, stay with yourself. You're the one that drew the distinction:

Zeliard said:
If you tweeted "I just saw a big epic movie, and it sucked", people could probably gather that you're talking about Avatar given the timing, but it would be impossible to accuse you of breaking any embargo.
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I think you've lost sight of what this conversation is about.

Zeliard said:
The full reviews remain to be seen, though some have started to crop up. I'm just honestly getting tired of all the pessimism and cynicism - I wouldn't care except that every single time a positive impression of Avatar comes up, it's trivialized in one fashion or another, while negative impressions are often championed as "proof" that the movie sucks. It's so transparent.
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I think you're being a little too sensitive. I haven't seen what you're talking about much and it is most definitely warranted to be cautious (as I'm being).

Zeliard said:
There's no good reason for anybody to want the movie to turn out poorly, other than to talk shit. Unfortunate side effect of the Internet, I suppose.
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Agreed.
 
i dont really know much about this movie.. but every time i scroll down the OT page i always think someone has made a thread about ABBA. Anyway.. movie looks good.
 
Yep......well it looks like AVATAR is definitely a winner ladies and gentlemen.

All these positive impressions/reviews put such a massive smile on my face!
 
Also from THR review:

Mauro Fiore's cinematography is dazzling as it melts all the visual elements into a science-fiction whole. You believe in Pandora. Rick Carter and Robert Stromberg's design brings Cameron's screenplay to life with disarming ease.

James Horner's score never intrudes but subtlety eggs the action on while the editing attributed to Cameron, Stephen Rivkin and John Refoua maintains a breathless pace that exhilarates rather than fatigues. Not a minute is wasted; there is no down time.
The only question is: How will Cameron ever top this?
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Awesome that Kirk Honeycutt gave it a glowing review. That guy can be pretty harsh.

Socreges said:
Errr *again* stay with me here, Zeliard. In fact, stay with yourself. You're the one that drew the distinction:
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How is that a distinction? A distinction of what? I was simply saying that it's very easy to post either positive or negative impressions of a movie without breaking its embargo, in response to you saying that people with negative impressions are not as likely to post them. They not only can, but they have been. There's no distinction to be drawn - it's the same for both positive and negative reactions.

Socreges said:
I think you've lost sight of what this conversation is about.
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I think you have been misconstruing me. What I've been saying is really very simple.

Socreges said:
I think you're being a little too sensitive. I haven't seen what you're talking about much and it is most definitely warranted to be cautious (as I'm being).
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Were you not around when the Comic Con impressions were coming out back in August? This sort of thing was egregious. 10 positive tweets in a row were ignored while the one tweet calling it "cartoony" was hopped on by the detractors like a drug fiend to a brick of crack.
 
Empire's been all over Avatar for a while so I can't personally put too much trust in their impressions.

The other reviews are good news though, especially the Kirk Honeycutt/Hollywood Reporter one.
 
looks like we now know why all those crows died in Flashforward

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Krev said:
Empire Review: 5 Stars
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This is a pretty awesome review, not only because its incredibly positive, but it still is able to point out criticism of some of the plot points:
At times – and this is perhaps Avatar’s biggest flaw, even beyond that bloody awful Leona Lewis song which mars the end credits – this manifests itself in New Age-y, hippy-dippy language and images that suggest that Cameron is one mung bean away from dropping out, man, and going all Swampy on our asses.
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But then it swings quickly back into the positive:
But it’s hard to imagine even the most jaded and cynical having any issues with the last forty minutes, in which Cameron uncorks the action and shows all the young pretenders – the Bays and the Emmerichs and the Von Triers – how it’s done.
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proposition said:
No-one counts but Ebert.
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Ebert could get hung up on the colour of a particular leaf in a sequence that lasts for 10 seconds and give it a bad review. And I can already tell you that Ebert's review will be of the 3D moreso than the film itself. I look forward to reading it, but ever since his War of the World's review and Gladiator review (look them up on youtube), I just can't trust Ebert not to become fanatical about things so tiny that they blind him from everything else.
 
Krev said:
lol, if you say so.

What an arbitrary restriction.
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If you want I can hedge it with all kinds of 'in my opinion's and 'from my experience's.

But that doesn't change the fact that, ultimately, the only film critic who counts is Ebert.
 
Zeliard said:
Empire's been all over Avatar for a while so I can't personally put too much trust in their impressions.

The other reviews are good news though, especially the Kirk Honeycutt/Hollywood Reporter one.
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yeah. I don't really trust Empire anymore since they got me to see Public Enemies, but things looks good. I think it was just the hype of it revolutionizing the industry that got people a bit crazy about the movie, when expect it to push every boundary you would be disappointed. This sounds like just another James Cameron movie... I don't want to get too hyped before next monday though
 
Zeliard said:
I think you have been misconstruing me. What I've been saying is really very simple.
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And I think you haven't been accurately following the development of our exchange. Anyway, to flesh things out would take more time, time that I really can't be bothered to waste. I'll just water this down to CONFUSION in how we've been responding to each other and claim that we both agree on what actually matters.

Were you not around when the Comic Con impressions were coming out back in August? This sort of thing was egregious. 10 positive tweets in a row were ignored while the one tweet calling it "cartoony" was hopped on by the detractors like a drug fiend to a brick of crack.
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Hahaha no I didn't see that. I'll take your word for it.
 
Socreges said:
And I think you haven't been accurately following the development of our exchange. Anyway, to flesh things out would take more time, time that I really can't be bothered to waste. I'll just water this down to CONFUSION in how we've been responding to each other and claim that we both agree on what actually matters.
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I think we can both agree to end this in love.

<3
 
Dead said:
The only review that really matters is Armond White. Hopefully he gives it a negative one.
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I'd be suprised if his review hadn't been mostly written before he even saw the movie. :lol
 
And then we’re off and running, literally, into an action sequence
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Hmm, interesting...
Remember that rumored "moneyshot" from like a year ago?
[slight spoilers]
A scene from first person with no cuts of Jake running through the forest.

It almost seemed too awesome to be true, but that line makes me wonder.
 
CassidyIzABeast said:
Times UK gives it a 4/5

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/film/film_reviews/article6952668.ece
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I don't like these meandering sort of reviews that barely say anything truly positive OR negative about the film. This was pretty funny, though:

With the use of such charged phrases as “shock and awe” and Sully’s curt summation of the situation (“When people are sitting on stuff you want, you make them your enemy”) Cameron adds a thought-provoking political dimension to the story.
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Zeliard said:
I don't like these meandering sort of reviews that barely say anything truly positive OR negative about the film. This was pretty funny, though:
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same here, She didn't even explain say why it wasn't 5/5.
 
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