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Rottenwatch: AVATAR (82%)

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beelzebozo said:
that original trilogy just rocks fucking ass. i watch that stuff over and over, and never get tired of it. it's not overcomplicated stuff, but it just hits every note just right for me. it helps that it has one of the most fantastic scores of any movie or set of movies i've ever seen, coupled with some extremely iconic imagery; when luke is looking up at the two suns, for example, the music that plays is just perfect. john williams is a god damn genius.
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Empire Strikes Back is still the greatest sequel of all time, closely followed by Godfather Pt. II.

Just utterly fantastic. The Blu-rays need to come out yesterday.
 
Medalion said:
No, it's probably the internal struggle of most critics and why the score keeps fluctuating so much. He movie isn't even out yet.
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That doesn't really make sense. It fluctuated so much because the more reviews that come in the more locked it becomes. After watching the film it definitely proves itself. Obviously it is an adventure only James Cameron can provide, but that is just one component of the masterwork.
 
90% ?
:lol

I'm loving this. I was one of the few people who were still having an open-mind about it instead of succumbing to the GAF-hive mind. Nice to see that it's getting excellent reviews. I'll definitely be watching it on opening weekend.
 
Scullibundo said:
Jett will especially like the interview at 13:50 where Cameron discusses their different approach to shooting 3D. http://marketsaw.blogspot.com/2009/12/exclusive-james-cameron-interview-talks.html

Hudson - there is actually a brand new 'Flying' spot out there somewhere. I saw it on Google News if you search James Cameron and filter the last hour. I don't watch the spots, but I assume it hasn't been posted yet.
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lol James Cameron premiered the movie without even watching the whole thing? This guy is really kind of insane. Funny comments from him as usual, especially his rant on hollywood execs. :P

Pretty interesting info on the 3D side, but I don't quite understand the convergence thing.

KingGondo said:
Call me when the Joker admits
he's Batman's father
, and we can talk.
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Actually the best sequel of all time is right there in your previous post. :P
 
Scullibundo said:
Jett will especially like the interview at 13:50 where Cameron discusses their different approach to shooting 3D. http://marketsaw.blogspot.com/2009/12/exclusive-james-cameron-interview-talks.html

Hudson - there is actually a brand new 'Flying' spot out there somewhere. I saw it on Google News if you search James Cameron and filter the last hour. I don't watch the spots, but I assume it hasn't been posted yet.
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silverbullet1080 said:
This is pretty much the reason why I'm waiting for this to hit blu-ray.
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If ever there was a movie to watch in the theaters, it's this one.

It'd be one thing if you're simply never going to see it, but if you are, you should do yourself a favor and watch it on the big screen.
 
I hated Star Trek until I saw the new movie. I was so reluctant to jump on board but now I sort of want to watch at least the original movies and series since the new one was a prequel sequel reboot and done well too. I think some of the trailers piqued my interest. Wait, why am I talking about this?
 
Amir0x said:
I always laugh when people define Darth Vader as cool. Even the very first time I ever saw him, I think I was seven years old, and I remember thinking he was not really a good villain.
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I love Star Wars & I like Darth Vader, but I agree with this. Darth Vader is not one of the greatest villians, certainly when compared to Joker, Hannibal Lecter, or even Jabba the Hut and The Emperor.

After Star Wars (Even then, he was unter Tarkin), he was shown to be a lackey- just following orders. The prequels help add the fact that he was easy to coerce which explains the change in Return of the Jedi. However, he was a memorable character with the breathing and James Earl Jones voice. I guess that's why he is on so many best villian lists.

Star Wars was good for the heroes which were better developed. I cared a whole lot more for the droids, Solo, & Skywalker than Vader.
 
beelzebozo said:
that original trilogy just rocks fucking ass. i watch that stuff over and over, and never get tired of it. it's not overcomplicated stuff, but it just hits every note just right for me. it helps that it has one of the most fantastic scores of any movie or set of movies i've ever seen, coupled with some extremely iconic imagery; when luke is looking up at the two suns, for example, the music that plays is just perfect. john williams is a god damn genius.
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seriously...when they showed the two suns with baby Luke, at the end of Revenge of the Sith..all my hatred for the prequels went away, and i wept little geek tears.

The original scene in SW is one of my favorite film moments of all time.

and yes Empire Strikes Back IS the best sequel of all time.

Can someone name a better one?

I guess ALIENS is bound to come up (but there are reasons why its NOT the best sequel, considering its not anything like the first film)

Godfather II is a great contender..but it wasn't better then the original movie IMO.

Star Trek 2? Well, The original Star Trek was really shitty so that isnt saying much.

Terminator 2..this is a tough call, I still think part 2 was a little too family friendly despite being R Rated.

anyone got another sequel that I am not thinking of? Don't you DARE say Spiderman 2...

EDIT..and all this nonsense about Vader not being a good villian? WHAT? He is the epitome of evil..he is the dark knight. i mean he destroyed an entire planet of people in the first movie. AN ENTIRE PLANET.
 
X2 and Toy Story 2 were damned good sequels.

jett said:
A.I. is my favorite Spielbergo movie. One day it will get the love it deserves.

Speed Racer too, damnit!
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You and I are often on the same page, and it's no different with this post.
 
jett said:
i'm a cocksucker]
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Yes, you are.

GhaleonEB said:
You are one creepy dude.
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Not really. Sculli didnt need to get in between me and jett's argument, where my agenda was to expose jett's real agenda of living up to his tag and parroting around some a rumor started by his buddy Busty. Its in this very same thread, nothing creepy about it. :lol
 
irfan said:
Yes, you are.


Not really. Sculli didnt need to get in between me and jett's argument, where my agenda was to expose jett's real agenda of living up to his tag and parroting around some a rumor started by his buddy Busty. Its in this very same thread, nothing creepy about it. :lol
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This shit again? I mentioned Busty's tracking number once in a box-office thread. Certainly not here. Stop trying to derail this thread with your bullshit. There's no argument to be had. I don't give a fuck about what Avatar was or wasn't tracking weeks ago. NOBODY DOES.

edit: you know what, fuck it. In the 10 years I've been coming to this forum I've never put anyone on ignore, congrats dude, you're the first.
 
Zeliard said:
Hey jett how's the hunt for a 3D theater going?
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Found one that's doing an early opening on wednesday, with the movie subbed instead of dubbed...but it's Dolby 3D. Meh I might just bite the bullet. I'll take a couple of tylenols before heading out. :P
 
I fear this may cost me my account, but what the hey:

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irfan said:
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:lol

Have you been saving the gif I used on you for a similar occasion? I'm afraid it didn't come off quite as well.

To answer the question: Jett. Jett would find it interesting, which is exactly what I said you clod.
 
jett said:
Found one that's doing an early opening on wednesday, with the movie subbed instead of dubbed...but it's Dolby 3D. Meh I might just bite the bullet. I'll take a couple of tylenols before heading out. :P
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Don't do it, its not worth it! I would rather spray shampoo in my eyes and watch the film, than watch it in Dolby.
 
Scullibundo said:
Don't do it, its not worth it! I would rather spray shampoo in my eyes and watch the film, than watch it in Dolby.
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With all that shitting on Dolby3D, I swear to God, RealD better change my life forever when I see it. :lol
 
Scullibundo said:
:lol

Have you been saving the gif I used on you for a similar occasion? I'm afraid it didn't come off quite as well.

To answer the question: Jett. Jett would find it interesting, which is exactly what I said you clod.
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:lol
 
duckroll said:
With all that shitting on Dolby3D, I swear to God, RealD better change my life forever when I see it. :lol
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I don't understand Sculli's unreasonable hatred for Dolby3D.
I saw MBV3D in it and the effect was great. It was a little jittery but until movies are shown at a higher framerate that is just going to be the case no matter what condition you see a movie.

I've also seen Aliens of the Abyss and Beowolf3D in IMAX on the very screen I'm going to see AVATAR and while it is bigger and better, it's definitely not night and day. Dolby3D just isn't that bad. I don't see any reason to see the film in 2D over D3D.

When I'm home for the holidays I will most likely see AVATAR in D3D with my family at the local theater. If I remember to I'll post a comparison.
 
AlternativeUlster said:
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Why would that cost you your account?
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Take your pick from: Junior paranoia, the suspicion that Avatar is going to be Gaf untouchable, or most likely the amount of rum I've imbibed.
 
Dude what? :lol
Unless I'm missing some sort of joke, it's a picture of a sticker over a poster for the crappy videogame...
 
My mom said she might just watch a cam version of the movie online before seeing it in the theater after the crowds die down.

I looked her in the eyes and said "Oh no you aren't"
 
Blader5489 said:
Anti-American films made by American filmmakers (which Cameron is not :lol ) are a dime a dozen.

Not that I think Avatar is an anti-American film (its cultural "criticisms" seem pretty broad and could be easily applied to just about any country), I'm just saying that the idea of a film portraying "rebels against the system" or criticizing American policy to some degree is hardly new or brave.
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I get you. But let´s put it this way - I like it that James Cameron put that kind of criticism in a movie that reaches a much bigger audience than any other regime critic movie would. I give him credit for that.
 
Jtwo said:
I don't understand Sculli's unreasonable hatred for Dolby3D.
I saw MBV3D in it and the effect was great. It was a little jittery but until movies are shown at a higher framerate that is just going to be the case no matter what condition you see a movie.

I've also seen Aliens of the Abyss and Beowolf3D in IMAX on the very screen I'm going to see AVATAR and while it is bigger and better, it's definitely not night and day. Dolby3D just isn't that bad. I don't see any reason to see the film in 2D over D3D.

When I'm home for the holidays I will most likely see AVATAR in D3D with my family at the local theater. If I remember to I'll post a comparison.
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I dunno if it's unreasonable though. I've seen both Up and Avatar Day in Dolby3D and -I- hated it. It was uncomfortable, the glasses were heavy, it didn't fit comfortably over my own glasses, the field of vision is reduced because of the heavy and thick frame, everything feels dimmed and closed in, and while the effects worked - I just wasn't impressed and don't wish to suffer through the experience just for some enhanced depth in the picture.

Given a choice between Dolby3D and Digital 2D, I'll watch movies on a digital 2D screen any day. I love the experience and it's sharp, bright and clear. I also don't feel like the movie is trying to kill me while I'm watching it. The only reason I'm even bothering with Avatar in 3D is because RealD is being hyped up as a "totally different experience" than Dolby3D, and a cinema here is finally screening stuff in RealD instead of Dolby3D.
 
Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
James Cameron stated explicitly in an interview that the story is more of a reference of human history in general than to American policy specifically.
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This stuff always bothers me... I guess it's not worth debating though. Why can't people just enjoy the damn movie for what it is? Look political agendas can get obnoxious when they're constantly shoved in your face. That being said I can look past it and enjoy the movie, it won't change my opinion of the guy.
 
Maybe I'm just easier to please.
I honestly had no problems at all with my D3D outing.
Now that I think about it though.. it might have been the nature of MBV3D at work, I went to it for laughs and had a great night. I wasn't taking anything about the experience seriously.

I want to hear what you think about RealD when all is said and done.
I've never seen RealD before, hell I actually don't think I've ever seen a Digital2D movie either.

LeMaximilian said:
It's funny. Almost all the footage we saw from AVATAR day is what's being shown now. :lol
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Yeah, it also seems like every screenshot that's been released has been from it too.
 
Scullibundo said:
My mum wants me to take her to see AVATAR on Christmas day. She hates all things Sci-fi and pretty much anything that isn't a shitty rom-com.
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Avatar looks like a shitty rom-com, confirmed. You heard it here first folks! :lol
 
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