They knew that guns were superior to their arrows. They knew that grenades blew shit up. Unless they had a reason to not use them, then I'm sure that the idea of a stick-trigger brigade wouldn't have been getting mowed down like their hunters.Count Dookkake said:
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Or like the Dark Knight Thread...Or Lord of the Rings. Why the fuck didn't they just catapult the ring into Mordor? Or you know...take one of the fucking flying eagles? Why didn't Elron just push the first human into the lava when he was right by the cliff?Solo said:
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Ok, so I'm back from a Friday night 9pm showing in the London (Waterloo) IMAX. Went with my nephew and 5 of my friends. Cut to the end - As we all walked out, I asked my nephew what he thought. He tried to say something, but it came out as a bit of a mumble. So I asked him if he didn't think it was amazing? As he shook his head, his response was "grrrufghhgpp, that's not even the right word, from the bit at the beginning with the
to the very end... it was just... wow!"
Now, I wasn't as amazed as that, but...
Special Effects: Like my nephew, I can't think of a word right now, but it is something far and away beyond 'incredible'. The best way I can describe how I felt about the CGI is that I wasn't even thinking about it most of the time. It was that believable. With some movies I'd look at the special effects and think how good it looks, or wonder how long it took to animate this monster, or that robot. But with Avatar, this was so far above any recent CGI ceiling, that it passed the point in my head where I would normally be impressed. Like (as has been said) the bit when
. It really was the perfect mix of live action and CGI. But it was so good that I forgot to applaud it. I guess what I'm trying to say is - "I believe".
Story: I understand the 'predictable' statements that have been going around but it didn't bother me in the slightest. I didn't need to see any huge plot twists, or Memento-style direction. It was fine as it was. Just like how I knew the Titanic would sink but was still sucked into the story, I felt the same with Avatar. Plus, I'm a sucker for the old
scenario. And for Cameron to wrap that all up in this fantastic world was just fine for me. I also have to say that I became BIG SPOILER
. Flippin' 'ell, that bit really got to me. So much emotion.
Music: I am a massive movie score fan, but have never really been a James Horner fan. Admittedly, I have the Braveheart soundtrack, as well as Titanic. But since Bicentennial Man, Horner hasn't produced any cues that have grabbed me. And unfortunately, I found nothing memorable about the music in Avatar. No, actually, I 'remember' when the music came in at the point when the
. And I 'remember' thinking to myself "eaaarrgghh, that's cheesy". Now, maybe that cue was exactly what Cameron wanted at that point, but for me, it just made a cool scene sound childish.
3D: I remember Sculli talking about some blurriness associated with certain types of projectd 3D, and I think I may have been in that one. Or maybe it was just me, or I was sat too close to the screen, but there were many times when things were a little blurred for me. One of my friends said that he wanted the cliche of having things flying at the screen, so he was a little disappointed by the subtle 3D in Avatar. To the point where he said he'd probably enjoy the 2D blu-ray version more than this 3D. Not sure about that, but I know what he means.
Final thoughts - I wish I hadn't scene one single frame of this movie beforehand. No teaser, no trailer. Nothing! If I had done that, then this movie would have left me totally speechless.
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Now, I wasn't as amazed as that, but...
Special Effects: Like my nephew, I can't think of a word right now, but it is something far and away beyond 'incredible'. The best way I can describe how I felt about the CGI is that I wasn't even thinking about it most of the time. It was that believable. With some movies I'd look at the special effects and think how good it looks, or wonder how long it took to animate this monster, or that robot. But with Avatar, this was so far above any recent CGI ceiling, that it passed the point in my head where I would normally be impressed. Like (as has been said) the bit when
Neytiri is holding Jake at the end
Story: I understand the 'predictable' statements that have been going around but it didn't bother me in the slightest. I didn't need to see any huge plot twists, or Memento-style direction. It was fine as it was. Just like how I knew the Titanic would sink but was still sucked into the story, I felt the same with Avatar. Plus, I'm a sucker for the old
outsider becoming a significant insider
emotional during a few scenes. Most notably when Neytiri's father dies, and Jake tries to comfort her
Music: I am a massive movie score fan, but have never really been a James Horner fan. Admittedly, I have the Braveheart soundtrack, as well as Titanic. But since Bicentennial Man, Horner hasn't produced any cues that have grabbed me. And unfortunately, I found nothing memorable about the music in Avatar. No, actually, I 'remember' when the music came in at the point when the
group of hammerheads began attacking the marines in the forest
3D: I remember Sculli talking about some blurriness associated with certain types of projectd 3D, and I think I may have been in that one. Or maybe it was just me, or I was sat too close to the screen, but there were many times when things were a little blurred for me. One of my friends said that he wanted the cliche of having things flying at the screen, so he was a little disappointed by the subtle 3D in Avatar. To the point where he said he'd probably enjoy the 2D blu-ray version more than this 3D. Not sure about that, but I know what he means.
Final thoughts - I wish I hadn't scene one single frame of this movie beforehand. No teaser, no trailer. Nothing! If I had done that, then this movie would have left me totally speechless.
Same here. I actually wish I hadn't gone to Avatar Day after having seen the movie.Hyphen said:
Personally I really enjoyed the score, especially what I assume is the Main Na'vi theme. Best music moment was when they were
Climbing up the mountains to the Banshees
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Hyphen said:
One of the guys I went with just got back from Iraq and had seen nothing of the film. When we sat down and some of us were chattering about mechs and aliens, he turned and asked "Wait, isn't this that Airbender flick?"
We laughed and told him he was in for a hell of a surprise.
Funny story
The Alice in Wonderland 3D trailer was so awful, people were wondering if something was wrong with the projector or if the glasses were defective.
It was absolutely horrendous, blurry and incomprehensible. It was like night and day going from that Trailer to Avatar.
The Alice in Wonderland 3D trailer was so awful, people were wondering if something was wrong with the projector or if the glasses were defective.
It was absolutely horrendous, blurry and incomprehensible. It was like night and day going from that Trailer to Avatar.
Count Dookkake
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For some reason, they ran the Spy vs Spy rip-off trailer twice. First time it got a few laughs, second time it was met with a mixture of indifference and rage.
CassidyIzABeast
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yeah it was. they looked like cardboard cutouts. pop up book 3DDead said:
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Amazing experience. Loved every minute of it.
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So after seeing the movie in IMAX and RealD...RealD wins hands down.
I don't know if the massive IMAX screen makes it harder to see or if the actual tech is worse, but RealD had the much much better 3D effect (with the worse sound system and screen size).
I don't know if the massive IMAX screen makes it harder to see or if the actual tech is worse, but RealD had the much much better 3D effect (with the worse sound system and screen size).
My Imax felt perfect. It's a bit above 5 stories high and 7 wide. When you sat in the center back. Everything was perfectly in view. I barely even noticed the people sitting in front of me. While in a normal theater, I notice nearly every little thing. Not to mention the 3D probably worked the best that way also. I think the best use of it was simply the depth it added. Moving the camera through the crowds of Na'vi really did have surprising depth to it or how it felt like instead of just being a picture. You were following them around.
As many mentioned already, not enough praise can be said for the tech. I probably won't be seeing it again. I don't really want to shell out another 14$. But if it comes to the cheap place, I may...probably not though :lol
As many mentioned already, not enough praise can be said for the tech. I probably won't be seeing it again. I don't really want to shell out another 14$. But if it comes to the cheap place, I may...probably not though :lol
CassidyIzABeast
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I can't believe they left that "me and norm are here to to drive these remotely controlled bodies" line that was from a video log(that was in the trailer btw) on top of the scene when Jake sees his avatar. There has to be like 40 minutes of deleted footage.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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Between this and District 9, I would take Avatar. I think that its effects were better, the action was better, and the world it created was more engaging overall. Plus, the barrage of wall-to-wall action to end the film made sense in this movie; in District 9, it took me out of the movie as I really wanted more of the speculative, hard science fiction elements that had been present at the beginning of the movie. District 9 had a strong lead performance and more interesting mech/weapon designs, but I feel like Avatar is a more coherent movie overall.
Simply amazing. That's all there is to say.
While I think District 9 might be the better film, I had way waaaaay more fun watching Avatar. And really, fun is what counts, so yeah, film of the year by far.
Everything about the graphics has already been said, and yeah, there's no comparison. I mean, what can you expect when you have BOTH Weta and ILM working on it?
Story and characters didn't bug me like I thought they would, because the film progressed at such a quick pace, you didn't get bogged down in things.
And as for the ending....
Can't wait to see this one again. And looking forward to any sequels now of course.
Now for that discussion...
While I think District 9 might be the better film, I had way waaaaay more fun watching Avatar. And really, fun is what counts, so yeah, film of the year by far.
Everything about the graphics has already been said, and yeah, there's no comparison. I mean, what can you expect when you have BOTH Weta and ILM working on it?
Story and characters didn't bug me like I thought they would, because the film progressed at such a quick pace, you didn't get bogged down in things.
And as for the ending....
I'm so glad they had a previous explanation built up, because when I read the spoiler initially, I was all "oh come on, that's a deux ex worthy of manga writing. But thankfully, they had set it up beforehand with everything about the planet and also with Grace's ritual
Can't wait to see this one again. And looking forward to any sequels now of course.
Now for that discussion...
So I guess there'll be a time skip? Since the ISV Venture Star would take 12 years to return roundtrip I believe. That's quite a time jump though. Of course, they could always have the next sequel be without humans altogether I suppose. And maybe they'd return in the third film
Yeah, Im really hoping we do get an extended cut with more character material. Even at 162 minutes it felt a bit too short.CassidyIzABeast said:
For me the section that needs it the most is where Jake is becoming one of the Na'vi...and Cameron has said there is more...so crossing fingers.
As far as Avatar vs D9....D9 is fantastic...but Id take Avatar over it in a heartbeat. But since I don't have to choose, Ill buy my D9 Blu-Ray next week and go see Avatar again in theaters
This is better than District 9 in my opinion. District 9 was definitely a more real feeling and felt like something along the lines of that would happen over Avatar.
But Avatar was that adventure, fantasy movie that was done so well. The movie was just awesome. Its like I want to see Pandora or wish it existed. It was fucking epic!!
But Avatar was that adventure, fantasy movie that was done so well. The movie was just awesome. Its like I want to see Pandora or wish it existed. It was fucking epic!!
Count Dookkake
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gdt5016 said:
Only that group, I think.
CassidyIzABeast
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yes. I'm looking forward to the extended cut. Even the part with norm introducing himself to jake was butchered.Dead said:
liquid_gears
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I just got back from a midnight 3D IMAX showing.
Wow. When the environment, visual character, depth and the aura surrounding the movie are as amazing as in AVATAR, I can easily overlook the flaws that it has. This was the key imo, I thought that I wouldn't be able to do this. The visuals in the movie and almost every shot of Pandora were breathtaking.
Some of the dialogue and characters were cheesy, but I'm not hung up on it. Quaritch, although incredibly stupid and played out, was a fun villain, the same goes for a few of the other characters.
It's not without its flaws, but they don't really matter in the grand scheme of things.
Count Dookkake was right. My girlfriend loved it more than me, which I didn't think was going to happen.
I can't wait to see it again tomorrow. It was much, much better than I thought.
Wow. When the environment, visual character, depth and the aura surrounding the movie are as amazing as in AVATAR, I can easily overlook the flaws that it has. This was the key imo, I thought that I wouldn't be able to do this. The visuals in the movie and almost every shot of Pandora were breathtaking.
Some of the dialogue and characters were cheesy, but I'm not hung up on it. Quaritch, although incredibly stupid and played out, was a fun villain, the same goes for a few of the other characters.
It's not without its flaws, but they don't really matter in the grand scheme of things.
Count Dookkake was right. My girlfriend loved it more than me, which I didn't think was going to happen.
I can't wait to see it again tomorrow. It was much, much better than I thought.
I like District 9 more. Quite a bit more. I also think it will hold up much better after repeat viewings. This, I actually fear a bit for the BluRay release and wonder how much of the awe it will lose. To me, it feels like a movie that can only be watched on the big screen
beelzebozo
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what a steaming pile of a movie.
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beelzebozo said:
Oh, come on. District 9 wasn't that bad.
liquid_gears said:
You all said I was crazy!
Seriously, though, I went with a group of 12: 5 guys, 7 girls. Everyone loved it, but the girls really seemed sold on the romance. There was much texting after the show.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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beelzebozo said:
I'm sorry that you didn't like it. I loved it.
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not quite full but WAY more people than I expectedchubigans said:
beelzebozo
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i just don't think i'm the intended audience for this thing.
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