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Weird, I don't remember this.Jibril said:
this scene is a visual orchestra.
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LeMaximilian
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Jtwo said:
Right after Jake tames his Banshee, they begin talking about how to fly and the art behind flying a Banshee. It's rather short, in the middle of a montage of sorts.
Dead said:
Sounds a bit like Star Trek actually... I am sort of glad Cameron made the cut and left Earth a bit vague. Whereas at the moment we can assume that Earth is a bit like ours, just worst, this might bring too much comparison with Blade Runner. It would almost be as alien to us as Pandora is and then we would have to understand two worlds instead of one.
Also wondered if his brother getting killed was ever a conspiracy to get a marine into the avatar program.
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Hmm, I'll keep an eye out for it next go 'round.
LeMaximilian
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Timbuktu said:
HOLY FUCK
sequel material
krypt0nian
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2nd viewing tickets for tomorrow afternoon purchased.
This time in ReadD 3D. Last time was in bufu Kentucky. It was 3D but kinda gave me a headache over time.
Such an amazing experience overall.
This time in ReadD 3D. Last time was in bufu Kentucky. It was 3D but kinda gave me a headache over time.
Such an amazing experience overall.
neoism
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Well said sir, I loved that seen a lot too, it's such a damn shame it cost so much to make this. It would have been soo much better as a 4 hour epic, with little scenes like this but so much more detailed. I seen it mentioned it the thread earlier and I had the same thought about this movie being similar to "Dances with Wolves, and I love that it was all about the "Alien"(Costner) becoming one of the Indians, and growing to love them as a people, and eventually saw himself as one, I also think he should have portrayed Jake's and Neytiri's love for one another more, or make Quaritch a little more less one-dimensional. Example, he could have made a scene where he was looking at his kids/wife or something not sure, and showing that he missed them dearly, something I'm not sure. Fox should have just given him and Bil and made it, 4 or 5 hours( or in 2 movie released 4 months apart! I do agree the story wasn't the best story ever, but the visuals are there, the wonderful acting(expectantly Zoe), but the fine detail in the (character's) wasn't. I guess it's just one of those things. Where you need more time to flesh out the character's. It still worked though, I'm not saying this is a knock on the film, I just reaaallly liked it. It has it all there, for more(sequals), and if so.. then it could turn into Cameron's own ""trilogy"". I just hope he does them, and makes it his. Because I hate when they make something soo awesome and just give it to another director on the sequals, it's just not the same! Don't worry I know this was/is ... wishful thinking......GhaleonEB said:
That's some good shit right there. Though it only helps make the wait for the extended edition more annoying. Especially since it's not going to be coming for a while. I'm actually wondering which will get released first, that or perhaps the novel. Jeez, Cameron has a lot on his plate, especially if he takes on The Dive as well.Dead said:
I would imagine that Cameron wanted to be that long too. But in the end, technical and audience considerations had to be taken into account (again, IMAX runtime limit and if audiences can tolerate long 3D movies) which forced them to cut it to about 2 and a half hours. For the home edition, well, Cameron can probably make it as long as he wants now, it just depends on how many scenes he still would want in an extended cut.neoism said:
To be honest, I would take a Kingdom of Heaven level Director's Cut, a fully realized version of this film, over a sequel. I liked how the KoH DC worked with an intermission. Truly epic, but as a singular work of art. A sequel might be messy, takes too long and Cameron might get tired of it.
We could've used more time with Jake prior to him joining the Avatar program. That one scene where he finally gets to use his legs again as an Avatar would have held far more poignancy if we'd spent a longer time with paraplegic Jake. We would've had greater overall attachment to the character, which would have buffed up the love story and pretty much every conflict he becomes involved in.
polyh3dron
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Holy fucking shit. Avatar made $19.4 million yesterday. That is an INCREASE compared to last Monday.
I laughed, but even now it's hard to remember just how much of a risk Avatar was. A hugely expensive, original, sci-fi mostly-CG movie filmed in 3D and released during the holidays. Just two weeks ago this was a huge question mark.neoism said:
I'm guessing if Cameron knew how positive the reception would be and in particular how well the 3D has been embraced he would have added a bit more time, at least up until the IMAX run time limit.
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neoism said:
On opening night the theatre I went to had an intermission for about 15min. About halfway through it however, they announced there wasn't supposed to be one and so to apologize they gave everyone free refills on popcorn and soda.
Maybe if it were 3 1/2 hrs or 4 an intermission might work.ThatCrazyGuy
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IMAX has run time limits?
polyh3dron
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Yes. A pivotal scene in the theatrical release of Watchmen was taken out because of this too.ThatCrazyGuy said:
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polyh3dron said:
whoa. didn't know that.
And whoa about the Simpson's hands details, hehe.
Rentahamster
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That would be delicious.Timbuktu said:
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between a quark and a baryon
Combine said:
Yes, that is the scene. I think you can watch it on youtube. I thought the scene was pretty well done.
polyh3dron
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Yes.Combine said:
Im just hoping and praying that seeing the worldwide praise and these incredible box office numbers for Avatar has inspired Cameron to say GTFO to The Dive, and jump back into Pandora for Avatar 2. Add to that what happened with the Terminator franchise.
You already spent a decade dicking around underseas, James. The silver screen needs you.
You already spent a decade dicking around underseas, James. The silver screen needs you.
I dunno, I think Cameron's in love with the underseas. Besides he'd probably use it as a partial excuse to get inspired for the sequels to come up with new vistas and creatures. I just hope that the project doesn't take him too long.Solo said:
There's no way in hell Cameron will give up the franchise though, he's stated he learned from doing so with both Aliens and Terminator, especially since Avatar is his dream project.
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I'd rather see:
-Avatar 2: NOW
-Avatar 3: TOMORROW
-Avatar 2: NOW
-Avatar 3: TOMORROW
Foliorum Viridum
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I saw this tonight (in 2D) and enjoyed it way more than I thought I would. I have to be honest and say that all of the internet hype actually had the opposite effect on me and I started to anticipate it being a big letdown, but it blew me away in a lot of ways.
Obviously the world of Pandora was what struck me the most. I loved how it was crafted, the creatures within it and the way in which everything was connected. Clearly a lot of effort went into the construction and I'll happily admit I sat there a lot of the time simply going "so prettyyyy" in my head. :lol
I felt the story dragged at times as I was watching it, but as it reached the conclusion I suddenly became very appreciative of the character building that took place. I'll spoiler the rest to be safe:
So yeah, it's definitely not the best film of the year, but it was much better than I expected. I quite regret the fact I couldn't see it in 3D as I'm sure it's awesome like that, but nevermind.
Obviously the world of Pandora was what struck me the most. I loved how it was crafted, the creatures within it and the way in which everything was connected. Clearly a lot of effort went into the construction and I'll happily admit I sat there a lot of the time simply going "so prettyyyy" in my head. :lol
I felt the story dragged at times as I was watching it, but as it reached the conclusion I suddenly became very appreciative of the character building that took place. I'll spoiler the rest to be safe:
What really struck me was the way in which I loathed the humans. Usually it's okay to enjoy some people being killed because they are being killed by good people, but in this you have a whole other species doing the killing and it's completely justified. It was gut wrenching when the tree was burnt down and during the battle I was loving every single body that flew from the helicopters. In terms of characters the only one I truly felt for was Neytiri, who had a fantastic performance. The bad army dude was pretty damn fun to hate too, as generic as he was.
So yeah, it's definitely not the best film of the year, but it was much better than I expected. I quite regret the fact I couldn't see it in 3D as I'm sure it's awesome like that, but nevermind.
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I have been reading up on this thread ever so often, loving the craziness of it all
I love the universe Cameron has created
I'm playing Jame's Cameron Avatar: The Game, it really helps flesh out the movie + universe so much
I'm really liking it so far, so if you enjoyed the movie and starting to feel that itch to go back to Pandora, you can't go wrong with this game.
I love the universe Cameron has created
I'm playing Jame's Cameron Avatar: The Game, it really helps flesh out the movie + universe so much
I'm really liking it so far, so if you enjoyed the movie and starting to feel that itch to go back to Pandora, you can't go wrong with this game.
Dead said:
Well, like you said, the tech is in place (of course they'd keep refining and improving it, but they're no longer reinventing the wheel), which is a major timesink for the first film. Then Cameron has said that he already has outlines for the second and third film. The actors were probably signed to a standard three movie deal way back when, so the important cast would be locked up. Really the time comes down to a) how long it takes Cameron to write a script and b) how long it takes to shoot principal photography. Post should take about as long as it did on the first film, but maybe a bit shorter now that WETA/ILM have gone through the experience once.
James Horner is already done his score. He is just reworking Aliens
Solo said:
Realistically
Avatar book 2013
Avatar 2 2014
Avatar 3 2016 (they will be filmed together)
Battle Angel, probably produce only. Cameron only do stuff no one has done before. I can't think of any new technology that he can't incorporate into A2 A3.
Afterward he probably will spend his money on more deep sea diving, maybe even funding private manned Moon mission. He is that kind of guy.
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