Game Analyst said:
I can't believe how many things are wrong with that article :lol
Fucking terrible.
Game Analyst said:
Onix said:By any TV, you mean any type of 3-D TV, that happens to be using the new standards
To my knowledge, it requires 120Hz. I don't think ATSC supports that, and neither does sat/cable.
That's where the confusion comes from![]()
jett said:Of course I mean any type of 3DTV, meaning LCD, plasma, crt, whatever.![]()
Onix said:I can't believe how many things are wrong with that article :lol
Fucking terrible.
The HDMI 1.4 spec concentrates on three formats for 3D: 720p50, 720p60 and 1080p24, for european and american video material, and movies, respectively. The 3D versions of these formats can be fully supported by any HDMI 1.3 cable that supports 1080p60. There might be limitations in some HDMI 1.3 chipsets and media processors that exclude one or more formats, but the bandwidth of HDMI 1.3 is capable of supporting them all.
Supporting 1080p60 as a 3D format is a different story. This requires a pixel clock of almost 300 MHz, while most HDMI 1.3 (and almost all early HDMI 1.4) chips top out at about 220 MHz. So, don't expect to see too many 3D devices that support 1080p60, most will only support 1080p24.
Now, there is no "540i" format. There are 3D formats that interleave half the lines from each, the left and right image into one normal sized frame, effectively leaving 540 lines from the 1080 lines of each image. This kind of "line alternative" 3D format is supported by some 3D LCD TVs already, in particule those that have been retrofitted with special filter sheets (e.g. RealD makes those). This kind of line-interlaved format could be already encoded on the disc, since it used the standard timings, but it would not be compatible with 2D playback. This is not an ideal solution, since it jettisons half the resolution from the get-go.
A 3D HDTV must display images at a rate of at least 240 Hz, for example. Some current sets can already do that, but they lack the circuitry to combine the separate video streams that are used to trick our eyes into seeing a three-dimensional picture.
Game Analyst said:About the 3D HDTV's:
http://dvice.com/archives/2009/12/no-new-blu-ray.php
EDIT:
Further explanation from someone on the highdef digest forums:
http://forums.highdefdigest.com/home-theater-gear/98083-hdmi-1-3-will-support-3d-after-all.html
A FoxNews article:
January 04, 2010
New HDTVs May Soon Be Obsolete? Thanks a Lot, 3D
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010...ision-goes-dimensional%2F%3Ftest%3Dlatestnews
jett said:This seems like a clusterfuck to me. I hope Sony details exactly how is the PS3's 3D update going to work ASAP. If I'm going to need a new PS3 with 1.4 hdmi for full 1080p 3D then fuck it all.
Game Analyst said:Whats your opinion about the Fox News Article and the highdef digest forum guy:
demosthenes said:To get 1080p 3D, from what I read you need HDMI 1.4.
AniHawk said:So what are we looking at be the end of the 4th weekend? $1.4B?
Mad Hatter said:I'm gonna guess it'll be closer to $1.25B. I hope I'm wrong though![]()
Define this week - you mean through the weekend?jett said:I don't see Avatar reaching much more than 1.2GB this week.
Kusagari said:I'm still hesitant on it beating Titanic in the U.S. but Titanic is doomed worldwide.
GhaleonEB said:Define this week - you mean through the weekend?
Possibly. It needs $240m right now to clear that. It made $37.6m WW on Monday alone.jett said:That's what I think. 1.3GB is crazy talk.
He was hired so that Tom's death wouldn't be a total waste, and so Jake could provide security for the team, given his military background (and spy for RDA). That was pretty much the only thing he was qualified to do, since he lacks any formal scientific, academic, and cultural training.JGS said:He wasn't hired to be a soldier, but a replacement for his brother. In any event, him being a soldier does not mean he would listen to scientists preventing him from enjoying a run for the first time in a while.
Right, "dissected a frog once", "I read a manual", better master of avatar body than guys with training right out of the box, completes Na'vi training in 3 months and is mother fucking Toruk Makto of all things only sixth in the entire recorded history of Na'vi for fucks sake Jake Sully is quite the prodigy. Okay, he's knows he's fine enough not to take tests and runs out the door like an asshole, breaking the pressure sealed door in the process. Okay, he doesn't listen at all and puts his own needs ahead of the mission's and his own and others' safety. He's his own man and is disobedient, okay. It was still a stupid thing to so, which is the point I and some other posters are trying to make. His actions in that scene were a little odd and did not paint him in a positive light.JGS said:He does things for himself when he knows he can walk and run. He also knows that he's fine enough to not need tests. I wasn't meaning to say he is disobedient, just that he is his own man and he does what he wants. The whole movie is about that.
I gathered that the insult was good at showing the initial mistrust she had over Jake's intentions (and rightfully so, due to the inevitable betrayal). Furthermore, it showed her distaste for the mentality and the methods of the mercenary division of the RDA. Hell, all the other characters around her are savage cartoon stereotypes, why should Jake be any different?JGS said:Grace insulting him is at first meant to convey she's a jerk and she does not view him as a "professional" anything, but also to contrast with her respect for him a few minutes later after his "reckless" jog. She likes his initiative.
He's not familiar with the body. He "dissected a frog once" and "read the manual". The second he wakes up, he's out the door. But that's fine, it shows how he's a very fast learner at controlling his avatar body, but is reckless and does dumb things that put himself and others in danger.JGS said:Sure you do if you are familiar with the body and haven't walked in a while.
Which is my point that it reflects badly on Jake's character by not caring what the scientists think and by engaging in a course of action that put himself, others, and the mission at risk.JGS said:This is my point. Jake doesn't care what the scientist think. He risked his life in the bajillion dollarand the crews the first day out on Pandora. He did this despite being ignorant of his surroundings.
He knows what he's getting paid to do - put a military set of eyes into an up until now all academic research project. He's team security/inside man for Quaritch. Of course he doesn't act like a professional scientist. He could act like a professional marine, though.JGS said:He doesn't know what he's getting paid to do because he is not his brother. His sole reason for being there is to not ruin the investment and have on the job training, not to act like a professional scientist which would not be expected of a Marine.
Snaku said:Saw it again for the fourth time today, this time on LieMAX; the previous three screenings were RealD 3D. I have to agree with the opinion that LieMAX provided a better overall 3D experience than RealD, with the depth of RealD and a little more IMAX pop. My eyes didn't ache at all this time, which might be due to the LieMAX 3D projection, or that my eyes are just getting used to viewing 3D films for longer durations.
Finally seeing the entire movie in its full aspect ratio (I had seen the 15 minute Avatar Day preview on the same LieMAX screen in August) was like seeing it for the first time all over again. The sense of scale is much more defined, and seeing little details that were cropped out of the normal theatrical screenings made the experience exciting all over again.
The only disappointing aspect of the experience was the sound, which was much better in the RealD screenings.
lol gb loljett said:That's what I think. 1.3GB is crazy talk.
jett said:LOL
What's wrong with me. :|
Hollywood filmmaker KATHRYN BIGELOW almost passed up the chance to direct award-winning war film THE HURT LOCKER - until her ex-husband JAMES CAMERON convinced her to take on the project.
Bigelow is already generating Oscar buzz with the hit movie, but Cameron confesses his ex wanted to make a film adaptation of Erik Larsons book, The Devil in the White City, when the project came along.
The Avatar director, who says the pair are still friendly after their 1991 split, admits he advised his ex to drop the other film during a chat.
Cameron tells USA Today, I encouraged her to do The Hurt Locker, because she had gotten that script and let me read it just for comment. I said, Jump out of White City and do this film!
Scullibundo said:
Eh? The voice actor that did the Genie in Aladdin and the bat in FernGully is Robin Willams? WTF!!!!?Vic said:I thought he was the actor that did the bat's voice (and the genie in Aladdin!); it's not him :\
Heh. Speaking of which.VisionaryQuest0 said:James Cameron just dipping his hands in everything, he really is king of the cinema world.
Latest news from China, Avatar has an estimated gross of 80M RMB (about $11.72M) as of Jan 5th, which means Avatar had a 45M RMB (about $6.59M) Tuesday.
Vic said:Eh? The voice actor that did the Genie in Aladdin and the bat in FernGully is Robin Willams? WTF!!!!?
I'm so shocked, I might get a seizure from this revelation.Scullibundo said:How could you not know this?
GhaleonEB said:Heh. Speaking of which.
I got the art book today, and I must say, it's incredible. Some really gorgous studies and panoramas, but what really surprised me was Cameron's work in it. I knew he was an artist (since he drew Rose's picture in Titanic), and that he had saved the design of the thanator for himself, but he did a lot more than that. There's some close sketches of Neytiri and of Na'vi clothing that are just gorgeous, and of several of the different creatures.
And then there's this:
Cameron himself jump-started most of the initial designs for the film, sharing with artists everything from drawings on cocktail napkins to, in the case of the Venture Star, an eleven-page document on how the ship functioned, complete with light-speed calculations, pod dynamics, engine thermodynamics, architectural plans, and more.Damn.
Also, Avatar is cleaning up in China, with a bigger second day than first.
I did not forget that, I just didn't mention it because I'd made my point.Scullibundo said:You forgot that he originally designed the Alien Queen.
GhaleonEB said:Heh. Speaking of which.
I got the art book today, and I must say, it's incredible. Some really gorgous studies and panoramas, but what really surprised me was Cameron's work in it. I knew he was an artist (since he drew Rose's picture in Titanic), and that he had saved the design of the thanator for himself, but he did a lot more than that. There's some close sketches of Neytiri and of Na'vi clothing that are just gorgeous, and of several of the different creatures.
And then there's this:
Cameron himself jump-started most of the initial designs for the film, sharing with artists everything from drawings on cocktail napkins to, in the case of the Venture Star, an eleven-page document on how the ship functioned, complete with light-speed calculations, pod dynamics, engine thermodynamics, architectural plans, and more.Damn.
Also, Avatar is cleaning up in China, with a bigger second day than first.
Dead said:Didnt he also help in the final design of the Predator?
GhaleonEB said:I did not forget that, I just didn't mention it because I'd made my point.
But yeah. Talk about being multi-talented.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0810982862/?tag=neogaf0e-20g35twinturbo said:Where did you get the artbook from?
I'm VERY interested in this.
Not sure if that was for the benefit of everyone else or myself, but I think you and I are probably on par as far as being Cameron fans go, so um, yeah. I know.Scullibundo said:Don't forget he's also a deep-sea diver, a pilot (chopper) and on the NASA Mars committee.
GhaleonEB said:http://www.amazon.com/dp/0810982862/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Scroll down to the customer video review, he flips through the book so you can get a feel for it.
The size is very large, and the illustrations are fantasticScullibundo said:Is the book worth it? I wanted to get it but read it was pretty much a magazine.
ummmmmmGhaleonEB said:http://www.amazon.com/dp/0810982862/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Scroll down to the customer video review, he flips through the book so you can get a feel for it.
It depends on what you want out of it, I suppose. It's exactly what I was hoping for, which is a ton of art from the early sketches on up to the detailed character studies and a host of multi-page panoramas of the landscape designs. It has some good introductory stuff (one long one from Peter Jackson), and then goes topic by topic through the different elements of the film, with 2-4 pages on each (each creature, Hometree, characters, clothing, skylines, etc.) and about a third page of text for each describing the design process and inspirations.Scullibundo said:Is the book worth it? I wanted to get it but read it was pretty much a magazine.
Yup, I'd have hesitated at $30. But for $17 I think it's sizable enough to justify, and the content is great.Dead said:The only problem is that it is only 108 pages. The Amazon $17 price is pretty fair Id say.