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[Gaiff]

If i didnt have a 5090, i would take a 5080s any time of the day over a 4090. less powreful but not by much ( one would say an OC 5080 can get very close to an 4090 FE ) but i will still have display port 2.0 and multi frame gen.

Multi frame generation isn't much of a win over frame generation. Take your extra 15% performance. There are recent games I posted where the 4090 is ahead by as much as 22%.

 

[peish]

Besides, there's a slight CPU bottleneck (the 4090 leads by 5% at 4K) and it's one game.


And 12% slower than the 4090 means the 4090 is 14% faster than the 5080. I said above the 4090 is 15% faster, so that checks out, doesn't it?

That's a review aftermarket model and those guys get golden samples. You might get a dud and barely be able to OC. Don't tell people to go play the silicon lottery, that's dumb. It's also a whopping $1500, 50% more expensive than the regular model. You're telling someone to ditch resell a 4090, get an inferior card with 8GB less VRAM and a performance deficit of 10-20%. Absolutely stupid.

No, that was Bojji. This guy linked to a reddit thread with a youtube video.

No i saying to ditch 4090 to china AI merchants and buy a 24GB 5080 and pocket the extra cash and a fresh warranty

RTX 50 drivers and users' findings have matured that we see 4090 and 5080 24GB will be neck to neck on average thanks to architectural improvements.

 

[Gaiff]

No i saying to ditch 4090 to china AI merchants and buy a 24GB 5080 and pocket the extra cash and a fresh warranty

RTX 50 drivers and users' findings have matured that we see 4090 and 5080 24GB will be neck to neck on average thanks to architectural improvements.

Where have they "matured"? The only counterexample you have is BF6 that is still 5% faster at 4K on the 4090 and that's admittedly difficult to reproduce one to one.

Otherwise, we have two very recent games in Wuchang and Mafia where the 4090 is 20% faster. Good luck to the 5080 if it wants to close such a gap.

 

[Bojji]

No i saying to ditch 4090 to china AI merchants and buy a 24GB 5080 and pocket the extra cash and a fresh warranty

RTX 50 drivers and users' findings have matured that we see 4090 and 5080 24GB will be neck to neck on average thanks to architectural improvements.

This won't happen, outside of few outliers.

Card lacks RT/compute units compared to 4090, this can be seen in RT especially:

And when games are fully made with BW in mind we will already see 6xxx series behind the corner...

 

[//DEVIL//]

Multi frame generation isn't much of a win over frame generation. Take your extra 15% performance. There are recent games I posted where the 4090 is ahead by as much as 22%.

your opinion. I would rahter have 100 fps extra jumping from 2x to 4x MFG in single player games over 10 /15 fps in resta that can be shrinked via OC or some tweaks to a single digit loss in performance.

hell I think I am losing 6 or 7 % performance with my 5090 with my extreme UV just because I don't like noise and heat. I am ok with shadow quality from ultra high to high lol.

but I am not ok losing 100 fps in frame gen. not to mention that Nvidia also has the positiblity to increase it to 5x maybe with an Nvidia update or whatever they wanna come up with next since the 5000 series has the hardware for it. 4000 series doesn't.

anyway like I said. my opinion. but at 1k msrp if it can be found, a 5080s beats the hell out of a 4090 ( which cant be found used at MSRP even even ) in terms of value per dollar.

 

[Celcius]

5090 limited edition

 

[OverHeat]

5000$ or more CAD confirmed. 800watts

 

[peish]

https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/11134/msi-geforce-rtx-5080-expert-oc-bold-design-impressive-4k-gaming-performance/index.html#Benchmarks-4K-Gaming

shrug, add a conservative 10% to these 5080 results, and there you have it. close enough in some, win in some, lose in others.

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

Asus TUF are popping up at Best Buy, MC, Newegg, Amazon, BH Photo for $1999. Out of stock really quick.

id only seriously consider a 5090 under MSRP at this point

stupid MSRP to begin with, been like 8 months since its release, 12vhpwr cable bs, so-so gains over the 4090 at times, etc

 

[FalconPunch]

Are the power connectors on these cards still at risk of melting?

I've always had Nvidia cards (FX 5500 / 8800GTX / 1080Ti), but if this hasn't been addressed am I better of switching to AMD?

Unfortunately it hasn't still been addressed. It basically makes the high end 5000 series a non starter. It doesn't matter if they increase memory or performance. Until the power connector is fixed, the 5000 series is a skip.

 

[peish]

Unfortunately it hasn't still been addressed. It basically makes the high end 5000 series a non starter. It doesn't matter if they increase memory or performance. Until the power connector is fixed, the 5000 series is a skip.

A bit overblown. For 50 series, it seems the biggest culprit is MSI yellow color coded cables.

For 40 series, it was the cablemod 90 degree adaptor.

 

[Windom Earle]

The 5080 vs 4090 fights are always amusing, keep it coming boys.

 

[FalconPunch]

A bit overblown. For 50 series, it seems the biggest culprit is MSI yellow color coded cables.

For 40 series, it was the cablemod 90 degree adaptor.

It really isn't at all. The card has a power delivery engineering flaw. Once you look at the schematics for power delivery, it becomes very very clear what the issue is. The cable is a red herring. Nvidia is simply not power balancing across all the cables and neither are psu manufacturers.

As a result, its possible for the gpu to draw more current that expected from a subset of the wires exceeding the rated capacity for each wire. This has now been tested and replicated by many people. It's a fire hazard and i'm not putting one of those things in my home. No one with any semblance of sense should take that risk either. Spending 2k on a 5090 to set your 500k house on fire is omega dumb.