Hudo
Member
I mean, if you buy anything from Nvidia, you're getting fucked over anyway.
This includes me as well...
RTX 50 series Super leak says we can expect more VRAM for the same price as the original GPUs
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This includes me as well...
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
No? They still have the best GPUs on the market. Just know what you're buying and how it compares to the competition.
Hudo
Member
They do have the "best GPUs" in the consumer market by virtue of having no competition (on the software side). If you take what they're doing in isolation, the 4000 and 5000 generations aren't that impressive (bar the XX90 cards) for the prices they're selling them at.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
I'm still not buying one but 5080 with 24gig for $999 seems good for people who need to upgrade
I expect these to be snapped up by the folks who want to run LLMs on their PCs, thanks to the expanded VRAM. Leaving a shortage for folks who just want to game.
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Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
I know right?Basically, most of the 50 series early adopters got suckered into purchasing deliberately gimped products.
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Rember those titan cards losers? Hahaha they are losing BIG TIME!!
I suggest you to wait for the RTX 90xx series i heard they will be even better.
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peish
Member
Sell high 4090 now, buy low 5080S next, seems the way to go. Both gpus are +|- of each others
5080 is quite bit faster now
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
The 4090 is 15% faster than the 5080 and has 8GB of extra VRAM. It'll be faster than the 5080S as well.
diffusionx
Gold Member
$1000 for a GPU is still ridiculous.
OverHeat
« generous god »
3x and 4x framegen make the 5080s a better deal IMO
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Bojji
Gold Member
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PlayStaytion
Member
AM6 is gonna be something else.
dorkimoe
Member
i would tell you to try and learn from this mistake but you wont.Bought the 3080 10gb and then the 5080 16gb. I deserve this.
Kenpachii
Member
Bought the 3080 10gb and then the 5080 16gb. I deserve this.
same
peish
Member
If this was with OC maybe I would believe that. It's not...
This .ru site has long been questioned about its tests legitimacy
Anyway 5080S will be more power efficient while offering competitive +|- fps is why 4090 will feel outdated soon, especially for AI tasks. So sell it while you can and swap in a fresh warrrantied equivalent
Bojji
Gold Member
No, 4090 will always be better, it has better hardware all around. Only way nvidia can screw it is with driver updates.
Newest 5080 test from HU:
20% for DL2, 7.4% for TLoU1 and 12.7% for Delta Force.
When game is not memory bandwidth limited (like DL2 apparently is) 4080S and 5080 are within 10-15% difference (sometimes lower) and this is in 4k. In 1440p differences will be lower (memory speed is not that important).
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
I don't think HU retests though, do they? I think they just reuse data for older GPUs.No, 4090 will always be better, it has better hardware all around. Only way nvidia can screw it is with driver updates.
Newest 5080 test from HU:
20% for DL2, 7.4% for TLoU1 and 12.7% for Delta Force.
When game is not memory bandwidth limited (like DL2 apparently is) 4080S and 5080 are within 10-15% difference (sometimes lower) and this is in 4k. In 1440p differences will be lower (memory speed is not that important).
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Stop saying dumb stuff. You linked a no-name channel with 300 subscribers and no pedigree. Here is a recent benchmark.
The 4090 beats the 5080 by over 20% in both instances.
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The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
A 5080 super at 1000$ is a big high doubt. If true, I might bite.
Bojji
Gold Member
I'm not 100% sure but I think they do retest stuff. I didn't watch the whole video to be sure (I don't even know if they mention it):
peish
Member
Stop saying dumb stuff. You linked a no-name channel with 300 subscribers and no pedigree. Here is a recent benchmark.
The 4090 beats the 5080 by over 20% in both instances.
You chose to omit this
peish
Member
Or this is the newer tests, not the latest best Nvidia 58x drivers but we are getting there.
12% behind 4090, before OC.
25% more power efficient.
OC adds back the 12% deficit at 20% more power efficient.
Like i said, you can choose to sell 4090 and get a 24GB 5080 and enjoy virtually the same, and better with MFG and higher AI performance in some cases.
www.techpowerup.com
12% behind 4090, before OC.
25% more power efficient.
OC adds back the 12% deficit at 20% more power efficient.
Like i said, you can choose to sell 4090 and get a 24GB 5080 and enjoy virtually the same, and better with MFG and higher AI performance in some cases.
ASUS GeForce RTX 5080 Noctua OC Review - Amazing Cooling
ASUS and Noctua—two market leaders—have joined forces to release the new GeForce RTX 5080 Noctua OC Edition. Our testing confirms it’s the quietest RTX 5080 you can buy, with the most powerful cooling solution on the market. However, it comes with a hefty price tag of $1,500.
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Jigsaah
Gold Member
Isn't the graphs he screenshotted from Hardware Unboxed? They have a bit more subscribers than that.Stop saying dumb stuff. You linked a no-name channel with 300 subscribers and no pedigree. Here is a recent benchmark.
The 4090 beats the 5080 by over 20% in both instances.
//DEVIL//
Member
I heard its actully one of the better cards and I am not even a fan of PNY. the name alone is off putting for me and their desgin looks cheap. with that being said i was reading on reddit its one of the highest OC cards and and the cooler is doing a good job.
Bojji
Gold Member
You chose to omit this
Driver boost or game is coded with Blackwell in mind. I wanted to say something about memory BW but seeing 9070XT beating 7900XTX...
At some point new games and drivers are optimized mostly for the latest architectures. OR game is just unoptimized for older architectures, at least at this point (Beta).
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
You chose to omit this
Besides, there's a slight CPU bottleneck (the 4090 leads by 5% at 4K) and it's one game.
And 12% slower than the 4090 means the 4090 is 14% faster than the 5080. I said above the 4090 is 15% faster, so that checks out, doesn't it?
That's a review aftermarket model and those guys get golden samples. You might get a dud and barely be able to OC. Don't tell people to go play the silicon lottery, that's dumb. It's also a whopping $1500, 50% more expensive than the regular model. You're telling someone to ditch resell a 4090, get an inferior card with 8GB less VRAM and a performance deficit of 10-20%. Absolutely stupid.25% more power efficient.
OC adds back the 12% deficit at 20% more power efficient.
Like i said, you can choose to sell 4090 and get a 24GB 5080 and enjoy virtually the same, and better with MFG and higher AI performance in some cases.
ASUS GeForce RTX 5080 Noctua OC Review - Amazing Cooling
ASUS and Noctua—two market leaders—have joined forces to release the new GeForce RTX 5080 Noctua OC Edition. Our testing confirms it’s the quietest RTX 5080 you can buy, with the most powerful cooling solution on the market. However, it comes with a hefty price tag of $1,500.
No, that was Bojji. This guy linked to a reddit thread with a youtube video.
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PeteBull
Member
Amazing if true, its usually cheapest model across all models of 5080, who knows why tho
forsakkenSoul
Gold Member
I was planning to wait for the release of this Super series, but from what I've read in rumors they'll either be released at the end of the year or early next year, so there's no way I can wait. I need a new GPU to play BF6.
Celcius
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YeulEmeralda
Linux User
If nobody else is doing it I call it pretty impressive.
Hudo
Member
Well then it seems we disagree, which is ok.
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Topher
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OverHeat
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cinnamonandgravy
Member
thats pretty sexy5090 limited edition
still cant find a 5090 for MSRP though
prices coming down though... see a bunch for $2300
Hudo
Member
When is the 6000 series even supposed to come out?
demigod
Member
Asus TUF are popping up at Best Buy, MC, Newegg, Amazon, BH Photo for $1999. Out of stock really quick.
smbu2000
Member
It'd be more of a tossup between the 4090 and 5080S if they both have the same amount of VRAM. The 5080 already uses the full GB203 die though, so the Super wouldn't really be able to add any performance besides a possible clock speed increase. Only if it had a much better price compared to the 4090 would it be worth it between the two cards.
I don't think having the higher 3/4x FG would play into somebody's decision for a card, since the 4090 still has 2x FG. Higher than 2x definitely seems like it has diminishing returns. I use 2x at most even on my 5000 series card.
Not unless you're Jensen pulling the 5070 = 4090 because of 4x FG.
I used a 5080 for a short while and even gave it a pretty decent OC, but it still couldn't match up to the 4090 I had at the time. I ended up getting rid of the 5080, because of the lack of VRAM.
//DEVIL//
Member
If i didnt have a 5090, i would take a 5080s any time of the day over a 4090. less powreful but not by much ( one would say an OC 5080 can get very close to an 4090 FE ) but i will still have display port 2.0 and multi frame gen.Stop saying dumb stuff. You linked a no-name channel with 300 subscribers and no pedigree. Here is a recent benchmark.
The 4090 beats the 5080 by over 20% in both instances.
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Windom Earle
Member
5090 chads eating goodBasically, most of the 50 series early adopters got suckered into purchasing deliberately gimped products.
Source
peish
Member
It should be release right around BF6 COD.
The fact nvidia had to come out and say no new hardware during gamescom, they are planning. AIBs are salivating to sell you Supers after the lukewarm sales so far.