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[LectureMaster]

GeForce RTX 5080 Reportedly Costs $900 To Manufacture

GeForce RTX 5080 manufacturing cost alone is expected to be 90% of its MSRP, making it hard for board partners to earn profit.

tech4gamers.com

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A Chinese expert who examined 31 RTX 5080 models found that their manufacturing costs are quite high and nearly equal to their MSRP. The price of the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5000 series is a subject of constant criticism; however, it turns out that a Chinese reviewer claims this is due to their production costs being ridiculously high.

He further adds that a seller informed him that the RTX 5080’s production costs, including the PCB and components alone, were about 80% of its MSRP. Additionally, the heatsink and graphics packaging would need to be factored in, raising the price by $100.

This means that the profit margins would be significantly lower than anticipated, according to the Chinese supplier, as it would cost an average of $900 to manufacture a single GeForce RTX 5080.

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[LectureMaster]

 

[Gaiff]

Probably an NVIDIA shill. They would happily sell it for $2K if it were that expensive to produce.

 

[Kuranghi]

How does that make any sense, you have many more costs above manufacturing, they would be losing money once logistics and other costs are factored in surely

 

[poppabk]

The price of the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5000 series is a subject of constant criticism

The main criticism hasn't been MSRP price except maybe for the 5090 and the 5070 because of its amount of VRAM for that price. It's mainly the lack of availability driving up prices beyond MSRP.
Also press X to doubt.

 

[Puscifer]

Bull fucking shit


The 4090 was under 500 to manufacturer and package.

Spitballing Nvidia's RTX 5090 GPU die manufacturing costs — die could cost as little as $290 to make

Not too cheap.

www.tomshardware.com

 

[Astray]

Impossible to believe imo.

I do believe that AIB margins are not very high (hence the ultra expensive variants and need to lock users into RGB control platforms), but they can't be that low either.

 

[FingerBang]

This is absolute bullshit. The 4080 cost around $300 to manufacture. They're using the same node. The chip is barely different and Nvidia has stupidly high margins on these cards.

That is probably close to THE COST TO AIBs, not to Nvidia, which is the reason why they tend to sell at a much higher price than MSRP.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

 

[Bojji]

My theory is that nvidia is screwing AIBs, and then they are screwing consumers.

Nvidia probably sells chips to them for a high price so they have very thin margins with MSRP price. That's why prices are way higher.

 

[Von Hugh]

I don't believe any part of this.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

 

[Magic Carpet]

I'm reading right now that GDDR7 is only being bought by Nvidia. GDDR6 is less than 20 bucks for 8 GB. A 4090 has 24 GB or 60 bucks in memory.
Where does the other 2 thousand in material go?

 

[lmimmfn]

The fact that the jacket is so expensive removes any cool from it, it's pretend cool

 

[DragonNCM]

say goodbye to 900$ MRSP

 

[Kenpachii]

Yea absolute bullshit, these cards are nowhere near 900 to make.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

The fact that the jacket is so expensive removes any cool from it, it's pretend cool

All about wearing the name

Like so many other things in life it’s not about being cool it’s the perceived status

 

[willothedog]

I'm reading right now that GDDR7 is only being bought by Nvidia. GDDR6 is less than 20 bucks for 8 GB. A 4090 has 24 GB or 60 bucks in memory.
Where does the other 2 thousand in material go?

4090 doesn't use GDDR6

 

[Magic Carpet]

4090 doesn't use GDDR6

GDDR6'X' ?

 

[poodaddy]

So a 5080, which is only marginally better mind you than a 4080, software features not withstanding, costs nearly three times what the 4080 did to manufacture.....

......uh huh. This is either bullshit, or it's indicative of some much larger issue with the production and fabrication side of Nvidia's cards, (perhaps increases in price of raw minerals used to produce cards since the 40 gen? I don't know), which I honestly doubt, so I'm chalking it up to bullshit.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

One of the most successful companies in the history of mankind doesn't know how to properly calculate profits. The more you know. Man if they only had a calculator or something.

 

[newtypepilot]

HAHAHAH if you believe any of it, you need a brain scan. Nvidia is just selling the die to board partners.

 

[cormack12]

There are deffo AiBs and I'm sure it's come up before

 

[Shubh_C63]

Amongst all the rumors and speculations people have told in Gaming, This one is the most bullshit one ever.
Half Life 3 exists might be more plausible than these manufacturing costs.

 

[kruis]

Bull fucking shit


The 4090 was under 500 to manufacturer and package.

Spitballing Nvidia's RTX 5090 GPU die manufacturing costs — die could cost as little as $290 to make

Not too cheap.

www.tomshardware.com

Another thing is that the 50x0 series is manufactured on the same node as its predecessor. The 5080 and 4080 have very comparable specs. The biggest difference is a new RAM type. The idea that Blackwell is crazy expensive to manufacture compared to its predecessor is nonsense.

 

[LavitzSlambert]

This is what happens when the fabs, the manufacturers, and the chip designers all "need" to make double digit profit margins. PC gamers just keep winning!

 

[CLW]

IF true evga smart to get out of the business you can get far better ROI with basic etf investing with virtually ZERO costs

 

[Cre8]

So in Billionaires eye, its like spending $8.99 for that jacket.

 

[DavJay]

That’s BS. We all know Nvidia rivals apple when it comes to margins.

 

[Bernardougf]

 

[Puscifer]

My theory is that nvidia is screwing AIBs, and then they are screwing consumers.

Nvidia probably sells chips to them for a high price so they have very thin margins with MSRP price. That's why prices are way higher.

This is 100% what it is, EVGA was their #1 for years and even they were getting screwed.

 

[Puscifer]

This got a sensible chuckle outta me

 

[kiphalfton]

The fact that the jacket is so expensive removes any cool from it, it's pretend cool

Doesn't help it doesn't fit his personality; ultimately a nerd trying to be cool.

 

[lachesis]

I don't believe it, and I don't care. It's their (Chipmakers + AIB partners) job to meet the price that people are willing to accept.
They can cry all they want, but I'm not paying for some bloaded price for their "profit margin".
It's not like I'm running charity. They should earn consumer's money with a solid value - not by f'ing cry-me-a-river boo-hoo shit.
If they can't make profit, they should just get out of the business like EVGA did.

 

[SweetTooth]

I believe it, TSMC is not cheap.

 

[StereoVsn]

Probably an NVIDIA shill. They would happily sell it for $2K if it were that expensive to produce.

Nah, the issue is that Nvidia charges stupid prices for GPU package to AIBs. This is why EVGA couldn’t make it. Nvidia still has their margins.

Hence the non existent margins at MSRP for AIBs and why we are seeing almost no cards at MSRP. The situation is kind of ridiculous and probably also similar for AMD hence the same sort of stupidity with 9070XT.

And of course this is partially due to virtual TSMC monopoly and incompetence on Intel and Samsung’s side. Well, and Nvidia/AMD desire for huge margins (since data center margins are ridiculously large).

 

[Wildebeest]

Moore's law is a rotting corpse. The formaldehyde doesn't work any more.

 

[StereoVsn]

My theory is that nvidia is screwing AIBs, and then they are screwing consumers.

Nvidia probably sells chips to them for a high price so they have very thin margins with MSRP price. That's why prices are way higher.

Yep, this is what it is. Cost vs 4080 is a bit more due to TSMC price hike and higher GDDR7 cost, but it’s not a huge increase overall all things considered.

But Nvidia wants to have as large or larger margins so here we are.

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

 

[Topher]

 

[Hudo]

Hard to believe since they reportedly are using the same nodes that they've used for the 4000 series.

That being said, selling a XX80 card for more than $650 is bullshit. And the 5080 especially is pretty unimpressive. And frankly speaking, as a customer, It's not my job to give a flying fuck about how much a product costs to make.

 

[NomenNescio]

It's funny how people throw shit at this card. It's still the second best in the world.

 

[FireFly]

I believe it, TSMC is not cheap.

The chip used in the 5080 is only ~23% bigger than the APU in the PS5 Pro, and both should be on TSMC 4nm/5nm. Realistically we're talking about <$150 per chip.

 

[AngelMuffin]

How does that make any sense, you have many more costs above manufacturing, they would be losing money once logistics and other costs are factored in surely

And R&D costs.

 

[SweetTooth]

The chip used in the 5080 is only ~23% bigger than the APU in the PS5 Pro, and both should be on TSMC 4nm/5nm. Realistically we're talking about <$150 per chip.

I thought it was way bigger than that, if so then $900 per chip is simply ridiculous

 

[FingerBang]

It's funny how people throw shit at this card. It's still the second best in the world.

This means nothing. The 4090 is better in any way, you just can't buy it anymore.

 

[NomenNescio]

This means nothing. The 4090 is better in any way, you just can't buy it anymore.

It's marginally "better" in terms of performance, but it's older tech. Right now I consider the 5080 the best GPU you can buy in terms of value/performance.

 

[Bojji]

It's marginally "better" in terms of performance, but it's older tech. Right now I consider the 5080 the best GPU you can buy in terms of value/performance.

This older tech supports physx and "marginally" looks like this to you?

5080 is marginally better than 4080 super, it has nothing on 4090...

 

[NomenNescio]

This older tech supports physx and "marginally" looks like this to you?

5080 is marginally better than 4080 super, it has nothing on 4090...

That kind of advantage is only present in certain games. Besides, the 4090 is a different tier than the 5080, I don't know why you're so keen in comparing the two. You should be comparing it with the 4080.

And you can kiss goodbye to Physx. It's gone, baby. Obsolete software.

 

[Bojji]

That kind of advantage is only present in certain games. Besides, the 4090 is a different tier than the 5080, I don't know why you're so keen in comparing the two. You should be comparing it with the 4080.

And you can kiss goodbye to Physx. It's gone, baby. Obsolete software.

Yes, it should be compared with 4080 "family" and it's not much faster.

Knowing how disappointing this launch will be people in Q4 2024 could buy 999$ 4080 Super that is overall very close in power. But they waited and fucked up, 5080 prices are ridiculous and cards are rare.

Physx is dead but games supporting it still work on 4xxx (and below) cards!