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[Regulus Tera]

This does not answer my question about Dr. Mario's pose being similar to past renders.

Mario has had hundreds of CG renders since 1996. You are bound to find some that look similar.

 

[HypnoDarkrai]

Mewtwo ;_;

 

[Graphics Horse]

This does not answer my question about Dr. Mario's pose being similar to past renders.

If you need me to elaborate then perhaps you can explain why the two frames I posted look so similar? I should mention they both had their right hand at the hip too. edit, left hand I mean.

 

[Azuran]

This does not answer my question about Dr. Mario's pose being similar to past renders.

How does that disconfirm anything? They clearly been taking inspiration or reusing past renders for the new ones. Greninja and Palutena renders are pretty much the same as their official ones.

 

[Vyse The Legend]

Seems legit lol

ugh really disappointed Snake's not in

Leaker said Snake would be DLC.

 

[synce]

This was posted on some chan? Fake as fuck. Someone just spent a lot of time in photoshop. Show me a video

 

[Myn]

Okay let me ask you this, why would this Dr. Mario pose be vastly different from past renders?

Because if you notice, every official Smash 4 portrait has characters posed as if they're in action, spare Palutena as hers pays homage to her character art from Uprising and a couple others. You honestly expect Dr. Mario to have a character portrait where he isn't interacting with his stethoscope or holding a pill, having the thumbs up pose (which Project M did a great job with) or even looking remotely active? No, the render of Dr. Mario happens to be a generic pose of him with his hand on his hip, a pose which matches renders of regular Mario that already exist on the internet. Why they would "take inspiration" by using these random renders of Mario is beyond me.

 

[shink]

If Wolf and Ice Climbers were paid DLC, who would pay for them? If they are unpaid DLC, why not just include them in the roster to start with?

I would just for Ice Climbers. I need them in Smash.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

If his hands are behind his back, it's a direct reference to his original NES Sprite

 

[onilink88]

Are there any good reasons behind people wanting to exclude Shulk from SSB?

 

[Zeyphersan]

Any leaker wanting to be taken seriously shouldn't post to 4chan

 

[Foxy Fox 39]

Because if you notice, every official Smash 4 portrait has characters posed as if they're in action, spare Palutena as hers pays homage to her character art from Uprising and a couple others. You honestly expect Dr. Mario to have a character portrait where he isn't interacting with his stethoscope or holding a pill, having the thumbs up pose (which Project M did a great job with) or even looking remotely active? No, the render of Dr. Mario happens to be a generic pose of him with his hand on his hip, a pose which matches renders of regular Mario that already exist on the internet. Why they would "take inspiration" by using these random renders of Mario is beyond me.

Bull:

http://www.smashbros.com/us/images/character/dedede/main.png

http://www.smashbros.com/images/character/pac-man/main.png

These characters aren't doing anything spectacular. Dr. Mario doesn't need to be flipping a pill. That's not a good argument.

 

[Fiktion]

Are there any good reasons behind people wanting to exclude Shulk from SSB?

Sword quota.

 

[Nickle]

Are there any good reasons behind people wanting to exclude Shulk from SSB?

Because they wanted Goku instead.

 

[Vashzaron]

I made this just for you. If other Smashers could spread this I would be really happy. Getting sick and tired of seeing this too often.

damn spelling error. Will update.

Nice, was hoping someone would do something like this.

 

[gosox333]

why

why would they cut Ice Climbers

for what purpose

I quit

 

[Deadstar]

Because they wanted Goku instead.

I want pokemon trainer with charizard replaced.

 

[Servbot24]

Sword quota.

isn't a thing.

 

[Baron von Loathsome]

Are there any good reasons behind people wanting to exclude Shulk from SSB?

Because he's animu and that's bad for some reason.

 

[Sandfox]

I used to main Ice Climbers, but I could get behind this roster.

 

[Fare Godmace]

I don't believe this. I don't want to believe this ;_;.

Hate that Dr. Mario could be anything but a costume. Hate Dark Pitto for the same reason. Hate that Bowser Jr./The Koopalings would fight from a kart.

I kinda love the Duck Hunt dog because that's so Sakurai, though.

Don't forsake us, Sakugod ;_;

 

[onilink88]

Sword quota.

I said good.

Because he's animu and that's bad for some reason.

Riiiiight. Now I remember. :/

 

[Spy]

I was hoping for Toad as a playable character.

 

[Myn]

Bull:

http://www.smashbros.com/us/images/character/dedede/main.png

http://www.smashbros.com/images/character/pac-man/main.png

You're giving me examples of characters with weird proportions that would look strange if they were assuming an action-heavy pose, and even Megaman and Pacman are showing movement in their arms and a pose that reflects their character. Megaman looks stoic and battle ready, and Pacman's giving the thumbs up, even has a winking expression too. They're not just standing there looking generic.

The only reason I'd be convinced that Dr. Mario portrait is legit is if the whole thing was shown somehow, because his right hand could theoretically be doing something along the lines of this:

 

[chadboban]

Are there any good reasons behind people wanting to exclude Shulk from SSB?

Not popular enough
Another swordsman
Another generic anime dude
Blahblahblah I don't care Shulk would be fucking awesome!

 

[Jezan]

Luuuuciiiinaaaaa

The main culprit!

Cutting Lucas and Ice Climbers in favor of Martha, a cliché and an alt costume?

 

[Scooter155]

What is this leaking exactly? A stage isn't huge but if it's a character then god damn!

May have already been said, but read the OP my friend. Several characters and stages were leaked and this most recent update seems to go a long way towards confirming said leak.

 

[Sendou]

I don't know about these leaks but man Duck Hunt dog and duck would potentially be an amazing character. I'd heavily consider maining it.

 

[Scooter155]

Then please explain to me why an existing render of Mario matches up so well with the Dr. Mario render the leaker made.

Because Nintendo's used similar poses and art style for their characters for decades, especially for recent publicity images. The differences between the two are actually more striking to me than the similarities. If it's a photoshop, it's a very competent photoshop.

This is the same kind of thing that was going around when E3's Mario Maker booth leaked, people were saying "The hands look the exact same, clearly a fake!" Turned out to be real because, surprise surprise, Nintendo used the same photo of a hand holding the gamepad again.

All that comparison (Mario to Dr. Mario) proves definitively is that Mario looks like Mario.

 

[jmizzal]

plz be real

 

[Mockingbird]

Just read about Bowser Jr. having the koopalings as his alts and Olimar having Alph. If they actually have different names on the victory screen and cheers for their names, it'd be freaking awesome.

also referring to Sakurai's rule:

nitially, I had considered including Lucina as one of Marth's alternate costumes. After all, she has a close relationship with him in FE:A. In such cases, even if two characters' names and voices differ, as long as they function the same way, I assign them as alternate costumes. The Wii Fit Trainers, Villagers, and Robin are examples of this setup.

However, even though Lucina shares her physical stats and techniques with Marth, the characteristics of their attacks differ. When two such similar characters function in an even slightly different manner, I give them a separate spot on the roster since that will affect battle records and whatnot. In that sense, you could say she was very lucky to join the fray!

 

[Jezan]

Sword quota.

Remove Martha, problem solved.

 

[BlackJace]

Why in the world would they cut the ice climbers

 

[Aaronrules380]

Why in the world would they cut the ice climbers

time constraints

 

[Flip4k]

I dunno, I'm on Team Real. All looks really convincing.

 

[Porcile]

Blegh, looks fake but I can see how there's enough doubt to make it appear real. I'll go with Team Fake till the end. Add me to the list comrades!

 

[Mockingbird]

Why in the world would they cut the ice climbers

Cause two characters makes for harder programming.

 

[DNAbro]

Saw this on reddit and i posted it in the main smash thread.

Ok, so the current denialist theory is:

Someone made reasonably high-quality renders of Dr. Mario, Bowser Jr., Ness, Duck Hunt, Shulk, Wario, Falco, Ganondorf, R.O.B., and Jigglypuff
They made a fake stage select screen, including never-before-seen pictures of stages. They used a leaked early copy of Famitsu as a reference, but didn't just cut-and-paste the image from Famitsu. (Note that simply having played Tomodachi Life isn't good enough: they got the room in the right position, also).
They diligently researched tiny details such as the background color of Fox's portrait, which differs on the box art, and accurately reproduced an anomaly in the thickness of a black line on the character select screen which no one on this forum noticed until it was pointed out by the leak
They made several drastic-but-sensible-in-hindsight UI changes, such as text going away with the icons this small and a whole new screen for selecting customizable characters

Now, I confess that there is no part of this which is impossible. Obviously there are many people in the world sufficiently skilled with 3D graphics to have generated those images, there are many people in the world with lots of free time and nothing better to do with it, they might have had a lucky guess / early access to Famitsu with respect to the stage, etc., but... don't you guys think this is seriously straining credibility here?

#teamreal

 

[friskykillface]

why

why would they cut Ice Climbers

for what purpose

I quit

3DS


this thread isn't for the wii u version so expect them there if they aren't in the 3DS version, but also expect them in the 3DS version from DLC

 

[Byronic Hero]

Cause two characters makes for harder programming.

Rosalina and Luma?

 

[MagiusNecros]

Cause two characters makes for harder programming.

Yet Rosalina and Luma work perfectly fine.

 

[Platy]

Gaf... as most of you noticed, Amiibos are using their Smash render

So ... can anyone explain to me how Duck Hunt and SPECIALY the Duck will work in Amiibo form ?

 

[Lgndryhr]

I call fake.

 

[Javier]

Yeah I don't know what to believe anymore. I said Team Fake, but the Tomodachi Life screen in Famitsu really make it hard to not buy it.

#Teamiamnottakingpartinthis

 

[Mockingbird]

Yet Rosalina and Luma work perfectly fine.

Except they're nothing like the ice climbers. Luma when sent out remains stationary and iirc can't be attacked unless it's sent out.

 

[Galang]

I'm inclined to believe in this leak still, and overall I'm quite pleased with the roster. I hope for the next Smash Bros they decide to add more villains and finally give Sin & Punishment and Golden Sun some representation, but can't win them all. A few of the characters I wanted, did make it in so I can't complain really.

 

[Camjo-Z]

Gaf... as most of you noticed, Amiibos are using their Smash render

So ... can anyone explain to me how Duck Hunt and SPECIALY the Duck will work in Amiibo form ?

The same way the other floating Amiibos do?

 

[Jonneh3003]

I always forget Charazards playable, hardly anyone brings him up

 

[MagiusNecros]

Except they're nothing like the ice climbers. Luma when sent out remains stationary and iirc can't be attacked unless it's sent out.

Rosalina and Luma perform different functions at the same time. Ice Climbers both perform the same function as a team.

 

[Baron von Loathsome]

Gaf... as most of you noticed, Amiibos are using their Smash render

So ... can anyone explain to me how Duck Hunt and SPECIALY the Duck will work in Amiibo form ?

Notice that some of those Amiibos are being supported by transparent beams.