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RUMOR: Leaker Kepler thinks the next Xbox is coming sooner than 2028
- Thread starter HeisenbergFX4
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
It seems like desperation to me but the only way I could see it make a little sense is if they can get that console out for GTA6 and clearly be the best place to play it
Even that is a stretch imo
What helped the 360 do so well in sales, because it was a openly hacked console and easy to run backups on.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
Why not focus on making better games instead?
Relying on hardware options and subscriptions to save the brand isn't working. People are switching to Playstation and the Switch for the games, not for the hardware or service offering.
Basically relying totally on throwing money at their problems now.
Relying on hardware options and subscriptions to save the brand isn't working. People are switching to Playstation and the Switch for the games, not for the hardware or service offering.
Basically relying totally on throwing money at their problems now.
I get you're an "insider" so your'e just saying what you "know". Wether thats true or not.
No one cares about xbox as a console and this gen proves that. Before launch we had the "eats monsters for breakfast" narrative! "Sony was scared and increased the clocks." It made zero difference, nobody cares about xbox as a console. Sales don't lie! Outside of the small percent of enthusiasts who will upgrade this is DOA. Why would the general consumer upgrade? This won't change the tide of brand revelance. Xbox as a console is irrelevant.
No one cares about xbox as a console and this gen proves that. Before launch we had the "eats monsters for breakfast" narrative! "Sony was scared and increased the clocks." It made zero difference, nobody cares about xbox as a console. Sales don't lie! Outside of the small percent of enthusiasts who will upgrade this is DOA. Why would the general consumer upgrade? This won't change the tide of brand revelance. Xbox as a console is irrelevant.
Crayon
Member
There was just some speculation in another thread that something less like a console and more like surface could work. Not neccesarily a tablet, but a pc that's xbox branded and marketed as built for gaming.
tommib
Banned
Is it convoluted to think they’ll drop a new console because GTA6 won’t run on a Series S? After the whole parity feature being abandoned for BG3 I can totally see Rockstar not willing to make that game work on a Series S. So a new console circumvents all of this? One last chance to save face.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
This gen started 4 years ago.
The way consoles work now there really doesn’t need to be gens any more.
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The Fuzz damn you!
Gold Member
Right now, I'm more curious about when, exactly, people lost the ability to post readable images on forums without linking to Twitter (or, you know... whatthefuckever).
ByWatterson
Member
Trying to get that 2005 energy back.
bitbydeath
Member
Keep in mind.
If they’re going through with what was leaked earlier this year their next console will be a < $99 GamePass streaming box.
Leaked documents detail next-gen Xbox targeting 2028, new hybrid cloud gaming plans
Bold plans emerge in FTC documentswww.windowscentral.com
They won’t need tech advances.
Salty Popsicle
Banned
Isn't that essentially the definition of a console? A dedicated gaming PC with a brand name behind it.
Snowdonhoffen
Member
3 years and 1 month ago to be precise. But I think the main reason why it feels like it has just started it's because so many games were delayed and are just starting to come out.
Crayon
Member
Well I guess that's better anwered by asking why a gaming laptop isn't a console. I'm not refuting you, just that it's not that clear cut. Steam deck certainly blurs the line.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I will post the links to read through just prefer taking screenshots because I always have them
The Fuzz damn you!
Gold Member
Thanks, although you did kinda miss the point...
edit-- HA! I fucked up posting the images...
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Which I have said I believe is canceled as did KeplerThanks, although you did kinda miss the point...
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
Without the disc drive it's already D.O.A for me and I doubt I'm an annomily.
Zekra Dezivad
Member
They should first release all the games they announced years ago and used to convince people buying into their ecosystem
demigod
Member
Gotta love it when “insiders” give these bs dates. Might as well just say 2025-2027.
On a serious note, there is zero chance it comes out in 2025, bookmark this and come back and tell me i’m wrong
HeisenbergFX4
when the time comes. Way too early and they are giving up on this gen already. Who would feel confident in buying their systems when they refresh so early?
On a serious note, there is zero chance it comes out in 2025, bookmark this and come back and tell me i’m wrong
HeisenbergFX4
when the time comes. Way too early and they are giving up on this gen already. Who would feel confident in buying their systems when they refresh so early?
Bernoulli
M2 slut
i don't see this working out unless someone can explain, here is my thinking
if they plan something for 2025 it will be too soon, the jump won't be big enough and the cost to produce will be way more expensive
what games will actually use the hardware? i don't see devs making games from scratch for a console that hasn't a big market share, we are barely using current consoles full potential, all it will have is higher res and fps number not a big jump imo
PS6 will come a few years later then what? release another xbox again?
if they plan something for 2025 it will be too soon, the jump won't be big enough and the cost to produce will be way more expensive
what games will actually use the hardware? i don't see devs making games from scratch for a console that hasn't a big market share, we are barely using current consoles full potential, all it will have is higher res and fps number not a big jump imo
PS6 will come a few years later then what? release another xbox again?
Loxus
Member
I think it's this slide, though specs may have changed.Thanks, although you did kinda miss the point...
edit-- HA! I fucked up posting the images...
Silver Wattle
Gold Member
This gen shows that MS need to step away from the hardware side and just focus on software, gamepass and publishing their own games on as many platforms as possible.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
All I have is hope.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
New Xbox coming 20XX.
demigod
Member
Math is hard.
CoreyFlawless
Member
Shorter gens are fine. I mean. For the most part they be cross gen. From buying pro in between. Really not making that much a difference.
Mr Hyde
Member
It started 3 years ago. Do you really want a new Xbox so soon? Or a new gen even? Current gen has barely scratched the surface of what's possible.
If they did launch early, like 2026. Wouldn't that just burden developers with having to support 3 consoles? They aren't just going to ignore the Series S install base.
They would have the most powerful consoles on the market, but how much would it matter if most games on the new console would have to be cross-gen for years?
It would just be a prolonged cross-gen phase, even more so than this gen.
They would have the most powerful consoles on the market, but how much would it matter if most games on the new console would have to be cross-gen for years?
It would just be a prolonged cross-gen phase, even more so than this gen.
onnextflix5
Member
looking at soc roadmap, if they go with 2nm, then 25/26 is possible, 1nm is 27/28. Going early is bad idea as Sony will just beat it a year later. They should just launch a steam deck competitor, but that would require significant r and d investment.
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FIREKNIGHT2029
Member
If they release a new console soon it will be DOA. They need to concentrate on fixing the fuck up if a current gen that they are still in. We haven’t even had GTA6 launch yet and people are already hoping there’s a new Xbox lol. The current gen has barely started.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Games take 5-8 years to make. Most of their Studios are full speed ahead with current gen.
Then you have 3rd parties which for sure won’t entertain spending resources on new console from by far weakest platform.
I guess we shall see what happens. I have some doubts on what the hell they are planning to actually have as software for new console they soon.
Then you have 3rd parties which for sure won’t entertain spending resources on new console from by far weakest platform.
I guess we shall see what happens. I have some doubts on what the hell they are planning to actually have as software for new console they soon.
Bernoulli
M2 slut
Spencer III is really desperate (desperado) dude really wants that console war trophie doesn’t he?
Team Xbox is still dreaming about that 360 era head start.
Nutella needs to take over before this manchild ruins the Xbox brand fufurther.
Nutella
ChiefDada
Member
OP has said this a while ago, so it's nice to have a bona fide insider here on Neogaf.
My issue is this seems to reek of impulsivity; when exactly did they decide to jump start their gen 10 console? Will they actually have the time to make smart engineering decisions that will allow for next Xbox to achieve longevity or will it be a Series X situation where they focus on on-paper specs (Reminder, it didn't work well for Series X). What dedicated software will be available to support market shifting adoption before PS6 arrives? If they're banking on GTA VI, they better have an arrangement with Rockstar to provide a native Xbox Next version (I am doubtful about this). Otherwise I don't see there being a huge difference between PS5 Pro and Xbox Next.
TLDR: This seems like a very desperate hail-mary attempt by Microsoft.
My issue is this seems to reek of impulsivity; when exactly did they decide to jump start their gen 10 console? Will they actually have the time to make smart engineering decisions that will allow for next Xbox to achieve longevity or will it be a Series X situation where they focus on on-paper specs (Reminder, it didn't work well for Series X). What dedicated software will be available to support market shifting adoption before PS6 arrives? If they're banking on GTA VI, they better have an arrangement with Rockstar to provide a native Xbox Next version (I am doubtful about this). Otherwise I don't see there being a huge difference between PS5 Pro and Xbox Next.
TLDR: This seems like a very desperate hail-mary attempt by Microsoft.
SneakersSO
Member
First - I think folks need to drop what they normally view as a 'next-gen' anything. What we used to call next-gen does not apply to that term anymore. Gone are the days of the PS2 or 360 launches, with loads of software that couldn't have been done on the machines that came before it.
Second - my understanding about Xbox's interest in HW going forward paint a very different picture from what folks imagine, based on convos i've had with folks in MS and in Xbox itself. Yes, a new machine is coming, but its not gonna be this HW approach intended to take on Sony or Nintendo. Enthusiast-focused, expensive, and with the only selling power being the GP sub itself, while software releases on all major platforms. Thats the future of Xbox.
Second - my understanding about Xbox's interest in HW going forward paint a very different picture from what folks imagine, based on convos i've had with folks in MS and in Xbox itself. Yes, a new machine is coming, but its not gonna be this HW approach intended to take on Sony or Nintendo. Enthusiast-focused, expensive, and with the only selling power being the GP sub itself, while software releases on all major platforms. Thats the future of Xbox.
SneakersSO
Member
It wouldn't work - devs prioritize the SKU that is gonna sell the most, not which box is the strongest. MS' ability to sell Xbox HW is at an all time low, and a stronger box doesn't fix any of its issues, hence why they are opening up their publishing support to other platforms. Devs are still gonna prioritize PS/Nintendo/Mobile. Its what happens now and everyone is making hand over fist cash. Only way 3rd party makes money on Xbox is by signing a GP deal, a practice that MS is set to cut down on in the not-so-distant future.
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Hip Hop
Member
I have not seen one game that has wowed me this generation.
Not one game I can name.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Next Gen only starts when Sony says so.
Mr Hyde
Member
Been wowed by a couple of games so far, but not as many as I would like. But I also don't play many new games or care or obsess much about fancy graphics so I'm probably not the best example to judge the gen so far. I mostly play old stuff or AA or indie.
SneakersSO
Member
Not even remotely close to happening.
Clintizzle
Lord of Edge.
NeXtBox with GTA VI, Fable, Indiana Jones, New Forza Horizon and New Elder Scrolls as Launch Titles.
PC Gamers also going to be eating good.
PC Gamers also going to be eating good.
Crispy Gamer
Member
They should've learned from the One X that the "best place to play" doesn't matter they didn't get any momentum going into next-gen after that beastly hardware and trying to tie the console to GTA6 is a fools errand for a franchise synonymous with playstation and i'm sure they'll have bundles with the pro. Not doubting what you've heard i'm just not buying that Microsoft would be that stupid I agree they might be desperate but you don't become the richest company in the world by making boneheaded decisions as this unless they go scorched earth and make everything they've purchased exclusive it's the only way it'll work.
Jinzo Prime
Member
The Xbox Series could be considered Microsoft's Wii U.
The Wii U was launched in 2012 and replaced in 2017 ~ 5 years.
This rumor suggests that the Series consoles will be replaced in 2025/2026, which would be right in line with the Wii U at about a 5 year lifespan.
The Wii U was launched in 2012 and replaced in 2017 ~ 5 years.
This rumor suggests that the Series consoles will be replaced in 2025/2026, which would be right in line with the Wii U at about a 5 year lifespan.
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hinch7
Member
Yeah no chance for a new TES in a few years. They just went in full production this year. At least 6-7 years out more-like if not more.
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