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Rumor: Nvidia might be working on a PC handheld rival to Steam Deck
LordOfChaos
Member
Seems like time. They're also making a Windows on ARM chip.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
why partner with Intel over AMD?
this is interesting nonetheless, this might be the first PC handheld with a dedicated gpu
this is interesting nonetheless, this might be the first PC handheld with a dedicated gpu
Cert.in.Death
Member
As they should. But eventually they’ll be at odds providing components to Nintendo if they head down this route.
LordOfChaos
Member
x86 deal?
Sentenza
Gold Member
I'm starting to get a bit confused about why so many companies are suddenly trying to enter this niche.
The Steamdeck was a decent success but we aren't exactly talking of Iphone-like earth-shattering sales. I doubt that there's that much to make, especially if you start to fragment the market even more.
The Steamdeck was a decent success but we aren't exactly talking of Iphone-like earth-shattering sales. I doubt that there's that much to make, especially if you start to fragment the market even more.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
I was hyped until I saw this was an MLiD rumor. Into the trash it goes.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
I don’t think Nvidia is worried about upsetting Nintendo.
bigdad2007
Member
I freaking loved the OG shield portable. It was the Steamdeck before the Steamdeck.
Actually the form factor is way way more comfortable than any of the current handhelds. It was an Xbox duke controller with a folding screen. For years and years I wanted a new version, but the Switch killed it I think since I’m sure Nvidia didn’t see the point of creating a competitor to a customer they are supplying chips for.
If the rumor of the Switch 2 going away from Nvidia is true maybe they will make one now.
Actually the form factor is way way more comfortable than any of the current handhelds. It was an Xbox duke controller with a folding screen. For years and years I wanted a new version, but the Switch killed it I think since I’m sure Nvidia didn’t see the point of creating a competitor to a customer they are supplying chips for.
If the rumor of the Switch 2 going away from Nvidia is true maybe they will make one now.
Sentenza
Gold Member
More in general, I don't think a 2 trillion company loses any sleep worrying about what a 60 billion company may think of them.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
The Steam Deck was a decent success sure, but the console that inspired it is what's causing all this crazy competition. The Steam Deck just offered an easier alternative to handheld game console in the form of making a handheld PC that runs windows (missing the point abit since the Deck ran linux but eh.) no need to build up a game library, first party, taking a loss on hardware, build a platform or anything like that. Just have nice hardware and a decent user experience.
2023 was already a pretty big year for PC handhelds but the biggest GPU manufacturer releasing one is a real big deal
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64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
wait this entire rumor is predicated on MLID isnt that guy massively untrustworthy and stupid
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Wouldn’t this be an ARM based SoC? That will drastically cut amount of games available. Even if they produce an emulator for x86 in ARM like some of the current community efforts, it would still take a huge hit to performance.
It will be interesting to see what they come up with though.
It will be interesting to see what they come up with though.
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willothedog
Member
They already did this once but was Android based
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Magic Carpet
Gold Member
I do think these handhelds are the future of gaming. I use my Steamdeck and my Quest 3 more and more everyday.
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
Nvidia will just install Valves own Steam OS. There's nothing stopping them from doing so, they already have their own Linux distro and can easily port their proprietary drivers to this flavor. Pretty sure Valve themselves will start supporting Nvidias drivers once it's known to them that they want to get in.
A lot of them want to be the next Samsung in the handheld gaming space.
amigastar
Member
So, RTX 5090 GPU?
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
the Nvidia WindShield
Buggy Loop
Member
Duh? Outside of MLID crap, it's an obvious shooting in the barrel type of statement.
It's why I said to peoples that thought Nintendo would go for the cheapest fucking crap or fuck it up to be less powerful than a Deck that Nvidia wouldn't let them do that, first Nintendo could not afford the R&D costs of Nvidia for a pure custom chip like old ATI times, so Nvidia has a chipset on the side for gaming handheld focus with of course a certain amount of tweaks specific to Nintendo, mainly for cartridge handshakes and anti-piracy, etc.
They'll do like Shield, they'll use a variant of this for their own hardware. It could have been a shield 2 plugged to TV but the PC handheld market being hot right now would also make sense for them, a dock effectively makes it a Shield 2 anyway.
It's why I said to peoples that thought Nintendo would go for the cheapest fucking crap or fuck it up to be less powerful than a Deck that Nvidia wouldn't let them do that, first Nintendo could not afford the R&D costs of Nvidia for a pure custom chip like old ATI times, so Nvidia has a chipset on the side for gaming handheld focus with of course a certain amount of tweaks specific to Nintendo, mainly for cartridge handshakes and anti-piracy, etc.
They'll do like Shield, they'll use a variant of this for their own hardware. It could have been a shield 2 plugged to TV but the PC handheld market being hot right now would also make sense for them, a dock effectively makes it a Shield 2 anyway.
Gameplay Gods Bless
Member
I'm praying Nvidia makes the next Xbox instead of AMD. Nvidia or Intel but Nvidia would be ideal.
Hudo
Member
With a LCD (it's the base version, after all) and a battery taped together.So, RTX 5090 GPU?
Holammer
Member
It *is* weird how everyone and their dog is doing a PC handheld now.
What if the Deck is actually a huge stealth success with tens of millions of systems sold, every insider in the industry knows it and wants a piece of the pie.
onnextflix5
Member
Do they even have a x86 licence?, can they get an intel or AMD cpu?
More companies in a particular market,the less niche something becomes.
Holammer
Member
Nope, they sued Intel back in 2011 for X86 access and ended up settling for 1.5B dollars.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
If they make a steak deck competitor with a competitive price, I will be very interested in that piece of shit
asdasdasdbb
Member
MLID is nothing but Fake News. But this is something that I would not be surprised...
Define "Competitive Price". I mean logically they won't be making something around $400. Be a lot more than that.
Define "Competitive Price". I mean logically they won't be making something around $400. Be a lot more than that.
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poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
The market for handhelds is huge: Switch, steam deck, portal, kishi/backbone, windows handheld etc. Getting a slice of that pie is likely profitable. For Nvidia pushing ARM based devices over x86 could have multi billion dollar advantages in the future.
onnextflix5
Member
Can they get a licence from intel or AMD, a handheld with an arm cpu will be dead on arrival on a pc handheld.
Holammer
Member
They can buy a chip from them. Intel paid them big bucks to avoid having a third x86 compatible CPU on the market.
Calverz
Member
Because it probably represents the biggest growth sector at the moment. May as well get in early (ish)
asdasdasdbb
Member
Given that it legitimately sounds like nVidia is going to make at least high performance (ARM) laptop parts, there's probably going to be some attempt to get Windows on ARM going as a gaming platform.
Android might work better.
Deerock71
Member
ultrazilla
Member
Wonderful.
All those sweet rumors/speculation about powerful specs, DLSS, etc was true-except it was for Nvidia's new handheld console and *NOT* Nintendo's.
For the Nintendo Switch 2, Nintendo to simply use another Tegra X1 at regular speeds(instead of underclocked) for a slight performance boost, kick resolution up to 4k and ensure backwards compatibility. /sarcasm but Damn they'd probably do this, wouldn't they?!
