[The Verge] Valve’s huge Steam Deck update is now ready for everyone, including rival AMD handhelds
Poppinfresh
Member
Are you running AMD or NVIDIA?
As someone with an HTPC/living room PC with a 5090 I'd love to run Bazzite or Steam OS, but the last time I looked into it, NVIDIA support just wasn't quite there yet, especially HDR support, which is important to me.
I'd really like to see Valve push for better Linux drivers for NVIDIA to bring them up to par with AMD drivers.
Calverz
Member
I'd far rather compatibility benefits than UI benefits but each to their own.
Calverz
Member
Name checks out.Don't you know that you can do your tax returns using Excel or write your PHD thesis on a handheld?
Pfft some people.
Sentenza
Member
I was going to comment almost the exact opposite of this.
"It's funny how before the Steamdeck released everyone was talking about 'installing Windows on it' but then Valve's work turned out to be so good that people are going in the opposite direction".
And if you tried a Steamdeck/SteamOS first hand you'd know why that's happening.
SportsFan581
Member
Dafuq? I always thought this was a headset with mic.
Haha, they are "Steam Powered" after all.
Deerock71
Very Poor Hoice of Wor
Onironauta
Member
If Valve adds eGPU support I'll happily move away from Windows
Minsc
Gold Member
Quite a few games run better on Steam OS than Windows, thanks to the shader generation they have less stutter/frame pacing trouble.
I feel like people DRASTICALLY overstate incompatibility too, doubly true for people who don't care for multiplayer games.
If you own ~2000 games on Steam, I'd bet maybe 50 don't work on SteamOS.
Windows has many benefits, but it also has way more annoyances in the handheld space. A usable sleep mode is one of the biggest I see commonly referenced, and for a handheld that's a pretty big deal.
Topher
Identifies as young
Perhaps that should have been your first take in the thread rather than proclaiming it "pointless" which it clearly isn't to many people.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
It is 100% compatible, genius. They use the same drivers
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Its an even dumber take than his first one. Anything that is compatible with SteamDeck will be compatible with a STeamOS/bazzite handheld and get better performance.
Topher
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I should have highlighted "to each their own". Only thing he has said that made sense
Topher
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My install never completed. Got to where it was trying to start the GUI part of the installation and then all I had was a cursor and a blank screen. Guessing this Legion Go is just nerfed somehow. I'll be returning it so no big deal.
ReBurn
Gold Member
Sounds like it may have been broken when they sold it to you. That sucks. I usually have good success with open box stuff. I've been thinking about trying to find one for SteamOS to get the extra horsepower.
Sonik
Member
Imagine buying a handheld with a slow, buggy OS that is basically spyware and putting a better OS in it
The Mad Draklor
Member
The biggest issue with Linux gaming is anti-cheat support for multiplayer games. However, people who primarily play singleplayer games will not have this problem. And with better performance courtesy of SteamOS (or any other distro) having a smaller overhead, I'd take SteamOS over Windows any day.
I would wait for confirmation on whether the RNA3.5-based handhelds can support FSR4 or not. ML-based upscaling is pretty much a requirement for handhelds to have real longevity and scaling as later-gen releases come out. Currently, handhelds are forced to play at very low resolutions near 480p to run the recent releases, and unfortunately, FSR2/3/basic xess are just horrible at those resolutions.
Topher
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Nah, I don't mind being a gen or two behind on handhelds myelf. The screen size is so small that the details that are eyesores on big 4K TVs are not nearly as much of a problem on a 7 or 8" screen. FSR4 seems to be struggling to get game support overall so that's another issue with newer tech and I say that as a guy who has a PC with 9070 XT GPU.
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Topher
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You've had that one in your back pocket for a while, haven't you? Glad you were finally able to use it.
phant0m
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AMD. I sold my 3080 for a 7900XT specifically for it.
RavageX
Member
I will probably stick to windows on my Legion Go. Maybe if I didn't have it pretty much config'ed how I wanted I would give a different OS a try. I had bought it for right under $500 several months (maybe a year?) ago on a heck of a deal. Upgraded to a 2tb ssd and bought a 1tb sd card....and it still isn't enough space. I figure a 2tb sd card will be enough. I really just have emulation(switch, ps2 and ps3) along with the usual suspects on steam, gog, xbox, epic and some others that are slipping my mind.
It runs everything I cared to try (WWE games, Assassin creed games, Red dead are just a couple examples), but switch emulation is a bit funny sometimes. I have a switch (of course) but it's often easier to just have everything in one place, you know?
Latest game I am playing is The Precinct, but no surprise that can run, lol.
It runs everything I cared to try (WWE games, Assassin creed games, Red dead are just a couple examples), but switch emulation is a bit funny sometimes. I have a switch (of course) but it's often easier to just have everything in one place, you know?
Latest game I am playing is The Precinct, but no surprise that can run, lol.
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NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
I haven't updated my Steamdeck to this version but how are the changes?
Topher
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StereoVsn
We may be seeing a paper launch on the the Legion Go S Z1 Extreme. Best Buy has the Z2 Go version for SteamOS, but not the Extreme. Still says "coming soon". I'm thinking the tepid response to the Z2 Go version killed any hype. Why they called both versions Legion Go S, I have no idea. Should have called it Go S Extreme to differentiate itself.Either way, I got the Ally X. Z2 Go isn't worth it. Might as well just get a Steam Deck at that point.
I've installed Bazzite since the Rog Ally X version of SteamOS lacks TDP control at this point. Bazzite is pretty kick ass.
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StereoVsn
Gold Member
Nice! Are all functions properly mapped in Bazzite? Ally X is still damn good handheld and 24GB and large battery make it "just right".
Either way, I got the Ally X. Z2 Go isn't worth it. Might as well just get a Steam Deck at that point.
I've installed Bazzite since the Rog Ally X version of SteamOS lacks TDP control at this point. Bazzite is pretty kick ass.
Topher
Identifies as young
Yeah.....it is like it is tailer mode for Ally X. After using Legion Go, I'm glad I have a 1080p screen. I played Obivion on both and Ally X is definitely a crisper experience playing at the native screen resolution versus reducing down on Legion Go.
reinking
Gold Member
I hope it expands to mini-pc/desk too.
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
Can the please launch a version of steam is for desktops? That would be totally fetch.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
That's good. Seems like a good compromise considering Go 2 Extreme is likely to be $$$$ and Go 1 Extreme performance is the same or worse depending on screen resolution.
Plies
GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief and Nosiest Dildo Archeologist
bender
What time is it?
He probably stole it from the breakroom refrigerator or from a stranger's nightstand at a party he wandered into randomly.
Walliwallipaloo
Member
SteamOS on a PC would be pretty nice.
Screw Windows.
Screw Windows.
Drell
Member
The anticheat problem will be solved the day there's enough people playing on linux, forcing devs to create native ports and in that case of kernel level anti-cheats, it would have to be ported too.
AndrewRyan
Member
Here's some direct comparisons of windows/steamos and z2/z1e.
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
25H2 update fixes a few bugs. 26H1 focus on stability. Just wait for the 26H2 update, Driver updates!
phant0m
Member
Bazzite (which has same SteamOS frontend) support AMD eGPUs right out of the box.
Bazzite runs on desktops, which you can have start in "SteamOS" mode (like a Deck) or just go straight to desktop & use big picture.
I run it on my desktop (5800X3D/7900XT) and play everything from indie/AA stuff to modern AAA with almost no issues.
Topher
Identifies as young
Steam is Steam regardless of what flavor of Linux being used, for the most part. I'm using Bazzite on Rog Ally right now and running Arch Linux (just vanilla Arch, not SteamOS) on desktop. Both work exactly the same as far as Steam is concerned except for the additional Bazzite menu that provides a few more options.
phant0m
Member
No, the "SteamOS" mode with gamescope is not the same. You have to pick a specific version of Bazzite to get it, and nvidia GPUs are still not supported.
I use Bazzite on my Legion Go and my desktop (HTPC in Living room) because they both boot straight into the SteamOS interface at boot with no logins or need to fiddle with m+kb.
If you're just dropping Linux on any old desktop to use at a desk then sure, it doesn't matter. But if you want that console-like experience on desktop hardware SteamOS (either official or via Bazzite) is the way to go.
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Topher
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Fair enough. I was generally just talking about how the games play rather than the UI, but now I'm thinking I'm making some poor assumptions. Are there benefits to launching straight into the Steam interface versus running Steam normally from the desktop like one would do on PC other than for HTPC purposes?