Tom Nook Sawyer
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RUMOR: NX more powerful than PS4, Splatoon/Mario Maker ports in development
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What was that about again?
AcademicSaucer
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I just cant anymore with the Nx rumors
"Polaris-like" whatever. She was probably referring to 14nmFF as well. Backporting features from Polaris doesn't make any sense. It adds cost but doesn't really change much, so i don't see how or why that would happen. If Nintendo wants a cheap console, it doesn't make sense to make a Frankenstein GPU architecture. That's no less silly than the guy who claimed that it would use Lollipop with features from Marshmallow and Android N backported.
EDIT: Sorry that this came across as kinda rude. I didn't intend for that.
Yes but on Brawl you are confined to a SIGNIFICANTLY smaller space than Mario Maker. It would make forming complicated courses so much more tedious than it is with a stylus.
Edit: Also, clicking and dragging items is simpler. You can quickly tap items or the eraser or whatever. There's no doubt in my mind that stripping away touch controls for a cursor would make it more tedious.
I mean that's how I feel about it lol
People seem to do just fine with Little Big Planet and courses there are much more flexible.
Anyways, I'm still expecting a donut screen controller
Epic Source Battle of History! 10k's Sources VS. Emily's Sources!!! BEGIN!
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I am on the side, that the controller will have some sort of screen. I just can't see a Super Mario Maker sequel or port working well. Its doable but not as comfortable and snappy.
Unless, as someone commented before, only for games likes Super Mario Maker, you could use a smartphone, however, it would still not be that great of a solution (but it still is a solution).
If by "eventually" you mean after the console is dissected.
So, something just hit me... What are the chance of a dev being given false info about hardware as a way of exposing leakers? Because if that can happen, I think it may have...
dreampeppers99
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Remember the 360 GPU? We heard the exact same thing. It was right before ATI was gonna drop DX10 GPUs. The 360 GPU was gonna have some forward thinking arch stuff, but power wise it was more inline with DX9 stuff.
Dark Cloud
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Gamexplains next video will be 10k vs Emily! Whose sources are you on? Lol
James Scott
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Even if Emily is wrong, which I doubt, don't expect anything other than "CPU is slightly better than ps4/X1"
Better to be pleasantly surprised than to suffer a hype train wreck
Better to be pleasantly surprised than to suffer a hype train wreck
Tom Nook Sawyer
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I want this to be a musical in the style of West Side Story
People seem to do just fine with Little Big Planet and courses there are much more flexible.
Anyways, I'm still expecting a donut screen controller
I'm willing to be they would find using a stylus much more quicker to create a course
It definitely feels like it would be a step back to go from touch controls to control stick.
Meesh
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At this point that's where I'm pinning my hopes.
This is where I stand right now. Keeping my expectations in check, though, I care more about their lineup than the hardware itself to be honest.
It did have some DX10 features though. I just don't see something similar happening here unless Nintendo saw something that they really wanted.
And I'm telling you that this doesn't work unless you're happy with those low expectations. It's better to have a minimum expectation and a maximum hope, since just having low but reasonable expectations only means that you'll be disappointed if that's all that you get. No matter what you're trying to tell yourself, you know you want more than that.
Well if it's better than XBO it's already outperforming PS4 in CPU power.
Plinko
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Which is what LCGeek's chart already showed us.
Angry Chair
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I'm checking out of this thread as well. Power isn't a big concern for me but this back and forth on the NX's power is wearing on me.
Meesh
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I dunno... I'm pretty stubborn. I refuse to be disappointed lol
I still wonder when/how Nintendo will do something about Wii U titles being available in the Virtual Console somehow. Perhaps later on when they have enough performance grunt to emulate the Wii U's Espresso. Either way, they will need a control mechanism to deal with the gamepad.
Could be that, just like PS4+PSV, "Remote Play" is just another feature.
Could be that, just like PS4+PSV, "Remote Play" is just another feature.
Not if they pull an E3 2006 with the lineup.
Well, the thread was already in a mindset of extreme skepticism towards the polaris rumors, despite some trying to put together how it could be possible under the best case scenario.
I'm still clinging to the slightly better than PS4 rumors though, which is kinda funny because I almost certainly wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyways.
Wii U games are going to fade into existence. Keep your Wii U. Keep your GameCube too.
That seems the easiest path, sure. But maybe not anytime soon, I think they'll want to make a handful of those titles available.
Nintendo has emulated/offered every platform they've had available, sans Virtual Boy. And honestly they should have VB VC purely for Wario Land, but not the point. Wii U did at least better than VB, so I could see it happening someday.
I just want to know about software now
How strong you expecting Xbox + to be, assuming it exists?
thenewjeva
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At this point, I'm expecting the NX to be this:
It's going to be a console that has a ton of Nintendo games on it. Some people will like it while others will hate it. It will probably involve some new feature that the internet is going to complain about but some people will like it once they try it out. Third parties might actually make games for it but will probably stop once people didn't buy their late or less-than-stellar ports.
Flip a coin and that will decide its success.
It's going to be a console that has a ton of Nintendo games on it. Some people will like it while others will hate it. It will probably involve some new feature that the internet is going to complain about but some people will like it once they try it out. Third parties might actually make games for it but will probably stop once people didn't buy their late or less-than-stellar ports.
Flip a coin and that will decide its success.
I think it's been delivered. Penguin posted instead of Rosti.
Sounds familiar
Maybe the original dev quote should be added to the OP (if people should still care at least):
I mean, the part about Fiji is some info we didn't have before and could very well be the reason for a misunderstanding. Maybe it's more Fiji than Polaris? Just some interesting features of Polaris added.
Emily's sources close to Nintendo said the info in this thread was wrong, about the GPU and about the gimmick (gamepad).
I mean, the part about Fiji is some info we didn't have before and could very well be the reason for a misunderstanding. Maybe it's more Fiji than Polaris? Just some interesting features of Polaris added.
Emily's sources close to Nintendo said the info in this thread was wrong, about the GPU and about the gimmick (gamepad).
Meesh
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Thanks, I must've missed it somehow...
Fahzgoolin
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The back and forth is honestly just good fun. 10k made it abundantly clear that each rumor is a rumor, not undeniable fact.
I'm just glad their is hype for Ninty again =*)
I'm just glad their is hype for Ninty again =*)
I don't think it's a worry, as Nintendo and people can make certain games for Wii U no problem. The larger the power envelope the better/easier it will be for development and titles all around, though; not just third-parties.
lwilliams3
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Nintendo will not likely showcase the specs, though, and even that Wii U Zelda demo impressed fans. The real test will be the support.
You may have answered this before, but what are your expectations?
James Scott
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The only way I'd be deeply disappointed in NX's hardware is if Zelda NX isn't at least 1080p/30fps.
Would appreciate 1080p/60fps more, tho
Would appreciate 1080p/60fps more, tho
I will say one thing...
Nintendo threads have been the most entertaining these last few years.
From Capitan Todd to squirt gun Mario to 3D printed controller to this thread...and I'm sure I left out some other magical threads.
That said....yea with any rumor its always best to keep expectations in check. There's nothing wrong with wish lists tho.
I'm still betting on an ARM chip. And even if the cpu is slightly better than whats in PS4 and/or XBO I think the PS4 has shown even if the cpu is somewhat lacking vs the competition you can make the console better than the others in other ways.
Nintendo threads have been the most entertaining these last few years.
From Capitan Todd to squirt gun Mario to 3D printed controller to this thread...and I'm sure I left out some other magical threads.
That said....yea with any rumor its always best to keep expectations in check. There's nothing wrong with wish lists tho.
I'm still betting on an ARM chip. And even if the cpu is slightly better than whats in PS4 and/or XBO I think the PS4 has shown even if the cpu is somewhat lacking vs the competition you can make the console better than the others in other ways.
Indeed. It would be nice though to hear from those sources close to Nintendo what exactly they mean by "still good". GPU is wrong and power level is wrong. What does that mean? Is power level regarding energy efficiency, performance or maybe fabrication process?
Right now this thread is mostly people shaming imaginary people for being too hyped lol. I think the majority expected this.
I'd rather it be 30fps and let them clean up the texture/image quality as much as possible. I wouldn't be surprised with a straight resolution bump tho.
I would expect Zelda to be 30fps regardless of specs.
TLZ
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I hope they go for it. Plug and play, no loading times. I'm done with this silly long installation and loading times on PS4/Xbone. I want to go back to the old days of just sticking a game in and instantly play, not wait 15 minutes fgs.
If they go this route, this alone would have a massive advantage over PS4/Xbone. Will make both looks so archaic and slow.
Eh, and call it Nintendo Ninpo.
Kissenkopf
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James Scott
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If Zelda could be 60 they'd make it 60. WW and TP are likely just an excuse since they have ocassuonal drops, but if Kojima could do it on 5 platforms I'd hope the Zelda team can
Emily didn't say otherwise. Just not some of the specifics mentioned
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