Ah fair enough then. I suspect this one was more no one talking about Miis lol.
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Rumor: Switch developer information leaked. Reveals A TON incl. hardware specs
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Ah fair enough then. I suspect this one was more no one talking about Miis lol.
Seems like I got an STD or lost an election.
What is it with the Switch shit-posts just now? Seriously.
Yeah, even with eurogamer's clocks, it's a ridiculous step up for 3ds owners like myself and offers a noticeable step up from the wii u when docked.
So this pretty much answers all the doubts about the web browser coming at a later time, if that's not obvious still. It's just really a matter of when.
lol, technically you did because no one believed you until the last minute
That's okay when you are getting a PS3 port (Last Guardian) and a Vita port (Gravity Rush 2) 3 years after PS4 launched.Right?
LegendofLex
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Splatoon got regular updates, so we can see how a Splatoon port with content added would have looked: new maps, new weapon variants, some new weapon types, some new gear, maybe a new game type or two, and a couple new music tracks. Those are the kinds of updates we got to OG Splatoon, after all. But all the old stuff would be there, just with new stuff added - because that's how ports work.
Splatoon 2 completely diverges from the original Splatoon by:
- Setting the entire thing two years after the first one, with a new story and new characters and changes to the roles of returning characters
- Replacing most of the old maps with new ones (and remixing returning maps)
- Replacing all of the "specials" with new ones
- Making fundamental changes to the way certain weapons work
- Changing the way the characters look and giving you totally new character customization options
- Creating a completely new plaza hub
- Having a brand-new soundtrack
It gives a good idea of what games will easily fit without any extra compression and which ones might need some extra adaptions to fit within the filesize. But I can't see anything impossible there, FIFA2017 (45GB) vs FIFA2016 (20GB) actually seems to be an unoptimised mess as it has different filesizes for each system, PS4 being 5GB more than xbone.
If it's bigger because it supports PS4Pro (no idea) than it's just a matter of not including those higher res textures that Switch won't need any way.
No guys you dont get it. They didnt start from the scratch, they definitely started by porting the game and then modified it. You cant call that a new game, that's a port. The 2 on the title is just for marketing.
Also Marios is a port too because of reasons.
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they really are scared of getting hacked.
That poor Foxconn employee
I'd guess the concerns are more about game support. If the power capabilities are too far away from X1 and PS4, then 3rd party ports from AA/AAA games made by 3rd party publishers may not be possible or worth pursuing. If you don't care about those, it's not really of much relevance I'd say. Indie titles will run well enough for the most part.
As they should be.
family_guy
Member
I'll admit I'm wrong about Splatoon, but you all focused on that one statement and ignored everything else. The point was that Nintendo should have much more in the pipeline and the worry they wouldn't have anything else to release if these games came out at launch shouldn't be a factor. If it is, then you'd wonder what they've been doing the past few years.
HandsomeCharles
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But, you know... It doesn't look any better than the last one, so it's not a real sequal.
I think it's a battery life issue, imagine web browsing and watching Netflix, if you watch an episode of the walking dead and have less than 2 hours left of battery to play games with, it will quickly lose its mobile image.
I do think we will get both functions in the fall though.
Sora the Cat
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Uh.. No? Left column isn't theory, why would you think that?
Left column: Actual hardware specs.
Right column: What's available of said specs for devs to use on their games/apps, as of July apparently.
I suppose it's better than the STD option.
I also remember telling everyone to "think outside the box" when it comes to apps and shit... which I meant specially as outside the console itself, using your phone or tablet. One person guessed it correctly. Forget who. But kudos to him! A few people didn't doubt me entirely!
James Scott
Banned
A portable Wii U and being able to run Wii U level games at 900p-1080p on the TV is still pretty great.
Hopefully most Nintendo games aim for 720p on the handheld and 1080p on the console like MK8 and ARMS(?) do.
Ugh, 720p and jpg. Add FB/Twitter compression to that and you get a total mess.
I don't know about the Netflix and other stuff (probably developing an app and business talks behind the scenes) but the web browser I feel is more of security issue like others have said that is why the implementation is not there yet for consumer use.
It's really unfortunate. 😔 Hopefully a firmware update will allow for 1080p in docked
At least we'll be able to just transfer them from the SD card to a PC.
I'm not going to even worry about that until we have final hardware, it took a shot of the chip and a hacker to get wii u's, I'm not going to take final hardware specs from a summer devkit when the same devkit from wii u would have given us 2 1ghz cpu cores for games and 128gflops for the gpu. Final wii u specs are 3 1.24ghz cpu cores and 176gflops gpu.
It's nice to have but is it really necessary though?
protomouse
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I hope you understand that pricing largely is based on perceived value, in which specs are not the focal point for most people. The USP of the Switch is the versatility offered by the hardware OOTB.
It's a monumental leap lol. It's launching as one of the most graphically capable portable devices on the market at that price point. I say "capable" because it is thermally designed for "high-end" gaming, whereas most portable devices aren't. It also runs a software stack optimized for games, not general-purpose multi-tasking of apps.
Inferno313
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Nintendo's announced 7 major first-party retail games through the end of the year, spaced out at pretty regular intervals. A major first-party game every 2-3 months, may not be a ton, but is much better than the last few years of WiiU and 3DS first-party support.
However, I'm sure we'll probably see a handful of things announced at E3 for the latter half of the year. Nintendo's method of announcing games is, like the rest of the industry, changing from the 3 year hype-cycles of old (BotW not withstanding). They typically announce most of their games within 12-6 months of launch.
That's also not factoring the (admittedly limited) third party support, and indie support, or the smaller games like Snipperclips that Nintendo is going to publish. I think Switch seems like it'll have a decent amount of strong experiences in it's first year.
CrimsonEclipse
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dem black joy-cons tho..
To be fair, it was at first treated as a port, internally. It's how LiamR set himself up over these semantics.
SomedayTheFire
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lol what? carts are incredibly expensive compared to discs.
I guess this image kinda confirms the leak is real. You can compare it to a real Switch image (which I took from this video).
The first image is described as what you see when you suspend a game on Switch. The second image is what actually happens as a Switch game is suspended.
Inferno313
Banned
This seals it 100% for the Foxconn clocks for me. They aren't going to tell devs to target 3 x 1ghz a57 in July then increase it to 4x 1.72 ghz a72s in October.
Uh yes! Especially with botw coming out (I know I know 900p) 😒
Splatoon 2 not being a sequel is basically a meme at this point, so no one is going to consider the rest of your argument if you include that statement. But yeah, clearly there are a lot of first party games for the 2nd half of 2017 and early 2018 that haven't been announced yet.
Devs had 2 cpu cores for wii u about a year before launch at 1ghz, ended up being 3 cores at 1.24ghz. I really don't understand the rush for finalizing hardware, we still have to correct people about wii u magically having 352gflops all the time because people can't wait for solid info.
Then you'll be up for a rude awakening.
I agree with your larger point, I just keep seeing people spout ignorant bs (no offense) about Splatoon 2 so I felt compelled to correct you
PdotMichael
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Thats cool I guess. Though it didn't work out the last two times.
m.i.s.
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Woah there! Just because you disagree does not make it a s***-post.
S/he is quite entitled to their point of view.
Edge Magazine suggested that Super Mario 3D World began life as Super Mario 3D Land 2 for example. That is a valid and legitimate point of view.
And as for producers, of-course a developer's not going to admit that. They'll put a positive spin on it.
Inferno313
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Someone posting something that's been proven to be untrue, and treating it as fact, is absolutely a shitpost. Splatoon 2 being "just a port" isn't an opinion, it's a falsehood.
Aside from making up shit // pulling it out of their asses, I'm getting really sick and tired of seeing "Splatoon 2 isn't even a real sequel." Like, what in the actual fuck?
I never expected strong 3rd party support from Western devs, and I do own a PC. I'm just not falling for the wust trap that saw a huge down grade in gpu performance but a huge upgrade in cpu performance. Rather just wait so I'm not correcting people in a year with actual info from retail units because articles were written with these specs now.
Xdrive05
Member
This is all very interesting but obviously doesn't address the alleged changes in October. When are we going to get that leak?
We're not, aren't we.
10 bucks says someone will have to delid the SoC and take some pretty pictures before we know the final score. Just like last time.
We're not, aren't we.
10 bucks says someone will have to delid the SoC and take some pretty pictures before we know the final score. Just like last time.
Skittzo0413
Member
How about, Vernified Insider?
But... the OP clearly shows that they didn't have any clock speed restrictions in July. That information must have been given later...
Oh come on, he has reliable intel, he just doesn't know how to deal with it.
Okay. So:
Wii U CPU: 14.79 GFLOPS (???)
Wii U GPU: 176(?) / 352.0 GFLOPS
Edit: So it seems like there's a bit of uncertainty when it comes to the Wii U's GPU.
Eurogamer make a guess here from microscope photos of the chip itself as similar to the Radeon HD 4650. But its FLOPs are in the region of the higher number.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-wii-u-graphics-power-finally-revealed
Switch GPU Undocked: 157 GFLOPS
Switch GPU Docked : 393 GFLOPS
PS3 CPU: 230.4 GFLOPS
PS3 GPU: 400.4 GFLOPS
Xbox 360 CPU: 115.2 GFLOPS
Xbox 360 GPU: 240 GFLOPS
PS4 CPU: 102.4 GLOPS
PS4 GPU: 1,843 GLOPS
PS4 Pro CPU: 134.4 GFLOPS
PS4 Pro GPU: 4,197 GFLOPS
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