RoadHazard
Gold Member
Yes, as long as you don't expect anything close to a generational leap. You'll get around the same visual quality as on the Wii U but at higher resolutions, with some extra detail and effects, etc.
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Rumor: Switch developer information leaked. Reveals A TON incl. hardware specs
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Yes, as long as you don't expect anything close to a generational leap. You'll get around the same visual quality as on the Wii U but at higher resolutions, with some extra detail and effects, etc.
exmachina64
Banned
Yes.
I can live with this
Why do we want to defend people reporting fake leaks, exactly? Why not expect people to try to verify things before they go public with them?
Also she threw her one source under the bus so I personally wouldn't defend her one way or the other.
Inferno313
Banned
So, like, if you made a Switch game it'd be 4k/60. Right? I expect nothing less.
Skittzo0413
Member
Is that taking 2x FP16 performance into account? I know that will differ per game but I recall seeing a developer say something like 70% of code max can be half precision. That and UE4 by default makes heavy use of FP16.
The bolded never happened. She had always reported that the pricing source was at GAME, she said nothing else about this source after it was proven wrong besides they got it wrong. Which is hard to deny.
Even portable though it has 3 times the RAM(though no EDRAM) and the CPU is still stronger(right?).
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
700 Game Boy Colors strong.
GinoFelino
Member
Yeah. The gamer-leaker relationship is so toxic.
I can't think of another market with a similarly harmful dynamic.
Because they're people and not monsters. They don't deserve abuse. They're just reporting on rumours.
BigEmil
Junior Member
Should be possible. The standard ps4 with hdmi 1.4 got a HDR update so I can see Nintendo do an HDR update too
PdotMichael
Banned
But manpower and know-how.
When Sony pulled out the PSP there was nothing in the market that came close to it. Now you can go to Nvidia and just get a Tegra derivat and call it a day.
The Wii U?
dr_rus
Member
Wii U's GPU is based on ATI's TeraScale VLIW5, no? If yes then these flops are seriously different between the two of them.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
6/10
RoadHazard
Gold Member
A really big flop.
(I think to most people it's just a number to be compared with other numbers, kinda like the bits in the good old days.)
EDIT:
Damn, lol, this is the correct answer.
???
When technology has hit diminishing returns on a physical level, it doesn't matter what money and know-how you throw at it. When Sony released the PSP we weren't in this regime of physics giving your attempts to reach higher performance on smaller die-sizes the bird.
Dark Cloud
Member
Hmm. Cool thanks.
Now I want 80 pages of people saying friend invites are on the system itself. Please let's make a big deal out of it.
Xdrive05
Member
I, for one, strongly approve of the Game Boy Colors unit of measurement for hardware capabilities. Who else is also with the Poo?
That was not a valid or legitimate point of view, no. So the opinion is not entitled to respect.
and Super Mario 3D world IS Super Mario 3D Land 2, so idk what relevance that has. The point of contention is whether or not Splatoon 2 is an enhanced port.
Graphics doesn't define what is a sequel or not.
I mean, many sequels are within the same generation. Fifa, Halo, Tekken, ...
LegendofLex
Member
Short version:
Most of her HW info was correct. Not surprising as she'd typically vetted from several sources.
Lots of her SW/announcement info was incorrect. Kind of surprising given how good her HW info was, but not really that surprising since it couldn't have been as thoroughly vetted.
Diprosalic
Banned
It's a pretty small device with a battery and a screen. Some people expected a ps4 in this form factor smh.
No, the left column shows the theoretical capabilities of the dev kit (probably sporting a Tegra X1 chip). The rightmost column shows the Switch' devlopment targets. As you can see, there are no specific clocks mentioned there, which tells you this leak is pretty old, older than the Eurogamer leak.
There is no source for it. What we have is video of the game being played, seemingly in portable form, at the Japan Switch event. People then are taking stills from those videos (not even the official Nintendo footage but a capture of the stream from another video) and trying to compare them to stills from the retail copies of the various versions of the game. Not even stills from video but screenshots I believe found on sites. Thing is when people started doing that no one was bothering to account for the difference the game would go through when you look at the undocked and docked modes or the age of the build of the Switch version at the time. Some people started stating it was a port of the Vita version as fact. Even then that's highly debatable because the texture work in the Switch version looks closer to the PS4 then the Vita version when it comes to detail, especially when you put the screens shots side by side. The Switch version lacks the particle effects the PS4 has but again that could be because it was running in undocked mode. Some didn't even want to consider that.
PdotMichael
Banned
What are you talking? Just looking at the fast pace of new mobile SoC releases there is no diminishing return right now.
Ah, right. Now hopefully 1080p screenshots will be available at some point and it will be OK.
family_guy
Member
The only issue is that docked performance is really only going to be about getting to a 900-1080p resolution. I suppose they could really target optimizations for docked mode, but it may not be worth the investment in time. They are always going to be optimizing for the lowest common denominator.
Wishmaster92
Member
Not one game shown looks anything close to xbone exclusives, closer to wii u is right.
GinoFelino
Member
Nobody even knows what the fuck the game even is at this point, so arguing either side is completely useless.
Judge/condemn/love/marry the damn thing when it comes out.
TalentAlwaysWins
Banned
Ok thanks!
Yeah, that would be pretty insane.
THE BITS! THE BITS!
Diprosalic
Banned
That just means she talked to someone with a dev kit. Everything else was pretty much wrong or very easy guessable.
I'd probably take PNG over 1080p tbh. Both would sure be nice though!
SomedayTheFire
Member
That's a very bad way of looking at it.
So because she reported something that proved false, she should implicate someone who may or may not face repercussions at his or her job because of it? Why would anyone leak information to someone who does that?
I don't think it's abusive to say the forum should ban untrustworthy sources of news. As far as I'm aware, that's just GAF policy.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
lol
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
Thats the amusing thing about the attempt to lock the "browser" down, 10 mins with a squid proxy and a single game that uses the web applet and I could be running whatever the hell I like in that browser, with or without an address bar. It's security by obscurity and easily bypassed by even an amatuer.
PdotMichael
Banned
Games will always look closer to WiiU like graphics because of the portable mode.
Also relative performance is sure someting.
That actually makes his point stronger, as in they were given some info in the Fall 2016 that won't be so dramaticly different some months later.
wild wild rice
Member
Cool. I'm sure you tech savvy folks are tired of answering the question so thanks for bearing with us!
I agree.
If Wii U's GPU was really 352 Gflops (fp32), even disregarding the older AMD GPU architecture, then Switch in portable mode is considerably less powerful (which I don't believe is actually the case) and Switch while docked is barely more powerful than Wii U (again, I don't believe it). Therefore the 176 Gflop figure for Wii U seems much more believable.
even if it were close to xbone dev's have to target their graphics to be capable in portable mode. that is the biggest and most obvious bottleneck of the switch
GinoFelino
Member
I'm sicked that Nintendo can't cram in a Titan X(Pascal), 32GB of DDR4, an i7 7770K, and a 5K display into a small form factor tablet-like console with a 6.2" display.
Joking aside, I think the Switch specs are pretty respectable. I wonder if the latest NVIDIA chipset would have had any marginal performance gains. I'm sure Nintendo took a look into that idea before setting on Maxwell.
Buggy Loop
Member
edit.. weird double post
TwilightPrincess
Member
The dev says they are working on better graphics now. The game isn't out yet. They probably ported Splatoon 1 to Switch and decided to make more changes. i wouldn't excpect too much, but it should look better when it's released.
And it will use HD Rumble.
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
the size of your balls, spacehoppers all over the shop.
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