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Russia begins Invasion of Ukraine
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Catphish
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You do realize that means World War III with the world's most prolific nuclear power?
NoLootBoxDev
Member
They know this is coming and want to burn their recruitment centers....
Fuck Putin
Fuck Putin
They are a lost case
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Goes to the military doctrine. Accurate small warheads for good effect in combined arms. Save the Earth.
Gp1
Member
Not even that. The Iron dome main role is to intercept artillery and rockets, not ballistic missiles and it's expensive to operate.
The Russians could easily saturate a Iron dome battery, that cost 50k-100k dollars per shot, with Grad like rockets that cost peanuts where the system is performing at its main role. And AFAIK, it isn't designed to defend cities against ballistic missile attack, Israel uses the Patriots for that.
It sounds to me like one of those "no fly zone" ideas.
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NickFire
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Dude you can just say you're happy that no one is standing up to them instead of suggesting I am too dumb to realize that would be a risk.
Also - I'm not signaling anyone out. I am ashamed of my entire species right now. Every functioning adult knows that the world is standing by and doing almost nothing while innocent people are being slaughtered by a madman. It is what it is and I am embarrassed by it, including my own reluctance to support a more heavy handed response when it started.
Catphish
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NickFire
Member
Instead of memes, why don't you explain why you thought I might be unaware that Russia is a nuclear power. Did you really think that someone posted on page 283 of a thread without grasping that already?
It's obvious now this is what they want to do to everyone in the West. Ukraine was just the start.
The word is overused but it is psychotic how they rationalize this genocide with the reality of any threat. Most in the West didn't care about Russia in any real way until this happened, which is why so many didn't see this coming. Russia's in the spotlight now under a microscope.
Catphish
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1. I wasn't questioning your awareness about Russia being a nuclear power. I was questioning your position that it's apparently better to kick off WWIII with Russia, the country with the most nuclear weapons on the planet, over what's happening with Ukraine. What they're doing in Ukraine is deplorable, without question. But I think it's a pretty safe bet that all out war between NATO and Russia would, in the final analysis, result in a whole lot more human suffering than what's happening right now.
2. "Dude you can just say you're happy that no one is standing up to them" is about the stupidest fucking thing I've read in a week, and that meme was about all it was worth.
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NickFire
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If it was that stupid, why does your first paragraph in the above post exist?
Anyway, I'm moving on. Next time just please tell me you disagree instead of asking me if I understand a clear and obvious risk like I am some simpleton.
Pagusas
Elden Member
lmao its soooo true
They plan to spend 634 Billions for mantaining their arsenal for another 10/15 years, insane.
Projected Costs of U.S. Nuclear Forces, 2021 to 2030
Notes Notes Unless this report indicates otherwise, all of the years referred to are federal fiscal years, which run from October 1 to September 30 and are designated by the calendar year in which they end. Numbers in the text and tables may not add up to totals because of rounding.
www.cbo.gov
In fact, this is the reason why I think Russia can only deploy few nuclear missiles over their presumed 1500 missiles theoerically already deployed. If USA struggle to mantain their weapons, and the USAF spend 10 times the Russian Military Forces, I really doubt they can launch all their missiles.
Airbus Jr
Banned
Tank Graveyard in Ukraine.
Russian Most Modern T-90 Variant being another victim of ATGM Strike, as we have seen there is a little phsycal distance out there between Turret and Hull.
*In photos
-T-90M Proryv-3 at Victory day Rehearsal Parade
-T-90M Proryv-3 Already Destroyed in Eastern Ukraine.
Russian Most Modern T-90 Variant being another victim of ATGM Strike, as we have seen there is a little phsycal distance out there between Turret and Hull.
*In photos
-T-90M Proryv-3 at Victory day Rehearsal Parade
-T-90M Proryv-3 Already Destroyed in Eastern Ukraine.
NoLootBoxDev
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Sakura
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I think I read Hungary would veto it.
Ironbunny
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There is 447 million people in EU and 144 million in RU. At some point EU must understand that we cant just expect and wait for the big brother US come and kick in the teeths of a bully. At some point we must stand by our own feets too. I wonder how long it will take because that is what RU & Putin fear.
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Gp1
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Tank Graveyard in Ukraine.
Russian Most Modern T-90 Variant being another victim of ATGM Strike, as we have seen there is a little phsycal distance out there between Turret and Hull.
*In photos
-T-90M Proryv-3 at Victory day Rehearsal Parade
-T-90M Proryv-3 Already Destroyed in Eastern Ukraine.
It still is a souped up T-72 with the autoloader and ammo stowed in carousel at the turret. One ATGM at the right place and that turret will fly more than Tom Cruise in Top Gun.
Tams
Member
That's not the world we live in though, nor how humanity (or any species really) works.
The 'West' does have quite a bit altruism to helping, but a lot is also the foresight to see that Ukraine losing is not beneficial to them.
Much of the rest of the world don't really give a shit until it directly affects them. See Israel and Lavrov's comments. See African countries and the food shortage they are now facing and some idiots trying to sign up to fight for Russia. See South American countries just not giving a shit. See Middle Eastern countries willing to continue trading with Russia and some even letting their citizens be recruited by them. See India only doing something when they realise supporting Russia may truly fuck their relationship with the West and that we might not help them as much as they anticipated if China come-a-knocking, all while they rely on a lot of now proven to be mediocre at best Russian arms and equipment.
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When I saw those videos recently of Ethiopians eagerly signing up for Russia the jingle for "Do They Know It's Christmas?" immediately came to mind.
Listening to it now it does have a war beat to it.
Barely need to change the lyrics for 2022.
Throw your arms around the world at Christmas time!
Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
https://apnews.com/article/Russia-ukraine-war-mariupol-theater-c321a196fbd568899841b506afcac7a1
AP Evidence points to 600 dead in Mariupol theatre strike
Sick fucks
This finding was echoed by two munitions experts interviewed by the AP, who said the scope of the destruction points to a 500-kilogram bomb from a Russian warplane.
“It’s much too much for an artillery shell,” said Mark Cancian, an explosives analyst at the Center for Strategic and International Studies and a former artillery officer. “The fact that it hit square on would lead me to believe that’s what they were aiming at.”
AP Evidence points to 600 dead in Mariupol theatre strike
Sick fucks
This finding was echoed by two munitions experts interviewed by the AP, who said the scope of the destruction points to a 500-kilogram bomb from a Russian warplane.
“It’s much too much for an artillery shell,” said Mark Cancian, an explosives analyst at the Center for Strategic and International Studies and a former artillery officer. “The fact that it hit square on would lead me to believe that’s what they were aiming at.”
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This USSR reboot is leaning too hard into the memberberries
FunkMiller
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The war started over two months ago. Bucha was discovered well over a month ago. All of this should have been announced weeks ago.
But yeah... good news at last.
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Rentahamster
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Time to denazify Ukraine from all these Nazis making matzo for Passover /s
FunkMiller
Banned
Next time someone whines about their tax dollars being used to fight these people, just point them at this.
The Russian state must be destroyed.
NoLootBoxDev
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Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
FunkMiller
Banned
Watch Putin threaten nuclear war if this happens!
...and then do absolutely fucking nothing when it does.
NoLootBoxDev
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Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Again, I hope karma catches up with mother and son. Disgusting animals.
BigBooper
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Want to go fight for Ukraine? Here’s what to do.
Here are the six steps you need to take if you want to help Ukraine fight.
www.militarytimes.com
BigBooper
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It's really astounding. How many phone calls do they tap and they just happen upon one where the soldier is bragging like this? It's a clear indication to me that Russian troops are generally morally depraved.
FunkMiller
Banned
And their families. I’ve heard too many of these kinds of intercepted conversations now to believe that the ‘ordinary Russian people’ are anything other than supportive of this atrocity. I know we’re supposed to give them the benefit of the doubt because of propaganda, but to descend to the level that so many of them obviously have is indicative of a far more broken and abhorrent moral code than can be explained away by government messaging.
Fess
Member
I have a russian coworker, I hear so many heart-breaking things, she has relatives and friends in both Ukraine and Russia, this war is sick, families are broken apart, family members are lost in bombings, hate is building up like I don’t know what, and there is no short solution to this, she don’t think the war can end without a big outside force cleaning up but if that happens nuclear bombs will fall like rain.
Tams
Member
What a fucking clown. Brazil, get your shit together.
Brazil’s ex-president Lula claims Zelenskiy equally to blame for war
The worst part:
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Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Some of these intercepted comms are so heinous that I still can't believe what I'm reading and hearing. Sometimes I struggle to comprehend, when I come across these accounts, that we're sharing this planet with some twisted depraved pieces of shit. Yep and the surprising thing is the depravity spreads far down the chain, from the soldiers to their girlfriends and mothers ... that they view Ukrainians as something lower than animals. Yet, it doesn't stop these scumbags from stealing their shit
I was born way too early. In the future I'd imagine one would simply venture off-world and try to find a hospitable planet or moon that didn't have any goddamn morons.
Majukun
Member
specifically with russian, nothing...if you pick thousands of men, especially people that chose a profession like soldier, you are bound to find some psychos in it.
Majukun
Member
you do realise that this is not news?
we had our fair share of atrocities in african countries for decades, and even the US haven't been exactly immaculate in the past
that is still not a justification for an escalation
saving people by putting others in mortal danger just to feel better about yourself and your "spicies" (which it was already fucked anyway) it's at best a misplaced sense of justice
FunkMiller
Banned
Brazil’s a corrupt shithole in terms of its politicians.
Wildebeest
Member
A lot of socialist grey beard idols clinging to the "that whore was asking for it" defence. Hate to see it. Sick nuance bro.
winjer
Member
Lula is pretty much a communist, so when he sees the USSR trying to rise from the ashes and fail, he gets angry and blames everyone.
And he is just as corrupt as Putin. So birds of a feather flock together.
Tams
Member
Separatists boasting about what they are doing to the Avozstal steelworks.
That's hardly going to impact the defenders much, and now if the separatists do take the steelworks, they'll have nothing to show for it. And it's not even them doing the damage. Morons. Just utter morons.
That's hardly going to impact the defenders much, and now if the separatists do take the steelworks, they'll have nothing to show for it. And it's not even them doing the damage. Morons. Just utter morons.
Darius87
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i never thought lukashenko is so dumb in interview he say why he don't like that russia could use nukes one of the reason was:
https://apnews.com/article/belarus-...ap-interview-9bc1f6524eb65841b924883705684b7f
https://apnews.com/article/belarus-...ap-interview-9bc1f6524eb65841b924883705684b7f
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