Bry0
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Look into him, he ran the IRA (not the Irish one). Putin should’ve kept him on a tighter leash me thinks. Wagner is kinda of a big deal too. He has both a physical and digital army.
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Russia begins Invasion of Ukraine
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Look into him, he ran the IRA (not the Irish one). Putin should’ve kept him on a tighter leash me thinks. Wagner is kinda of a big deal too. He has both a physical and digital army.
TransTrender
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I have to wonder if China is eyeing some land grabs because it seems like Russia can't defend itself.
LimanimaPT
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Not verified, hilarious if true though..
Those guys look pretty professional and have torn off patches , I really hope they really all Russian regular forces that have decided they're sick of being sent to the grinder
Apocryphon
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Vlad Vexlers videos on the Belgrod incursion are worth a watch..
Cyberpunkd
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No, because Siberia and other places bordering China are practically impossible to hold, it’s just hundreds of miles of nothing.
Lukaku's First Touch
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I'm itching for some leopard / bradley footage from this war. I saw a training video of a bradley completely raping a trench system with shells exploding above the trenches. I need to see that used on some russian scum.
Artoris
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All China needs is air superiority
NoLootBoxDev
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Putin spokesman says Russia will “liberate” Belarus if its people rise up against Lukashenko
pravda.com.ua/eng/ne...
I bet Putler wants Belarus as soon as possible so anything will fly.
NoLootBoxDev
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Hopefully it will expand like a plague in Ruzzia, and things make to change there.
With planes based on Russian design
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winjer
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With planes based on Russian design
The J20 is far ahead of anything Russia has ever produced.
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
EU Declares No Longer Dependent on Russian Energy
The European Union has announced that it was able to overcome dependence on Russian energy sources thanks to the EU’s plan to reduce gas consumption.
That doesn’t mean much
we have all seen Russias might stumble ..
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winjer
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That doesn’t mean much
It means that in a conventional war, China has all the advantages over Russia. Manpower, money, more advanced weapons.
And why would we care ? They probably fuck up as badly as Russia when encountering western material. It’s all mighty impressive for parades and on paper , but it real life it falls flat. Maybe they want to annex Russia , they could win
that 
Did you know that their latest plane is basically a Frankenstein? It’s 2 US planes and a Russian MIG combined .. great unified and well thought out design ..
And that’s not even talking about tactics required to do a full scale war with invasion, with all the specialized army sections working together.
To be honest , only the USA has experience on this scale . (And I am from Europe) they learned the hard way btw.
It is because dictatorships don’t stimulate personal growth , and freedom , two ingredients to excel in great unprecedented work in life. For example , Space Shuttle, SR-71 black bird .. and what not. It also extends to other things , companies , franchises, Hollywood. Technology , education . And the list goes on.
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winjer
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And why would we care ? They probably fuck up as badly as Russia when encountering western material. It’s all mighty impressive for parades and on paper , but it real life it falls flat.
Did you know that their latest plane is basically a Frankenstein? It’s 2 US planes and a Russian MIG combined .. great unified and well thought out design ..
It is because dictatorships don’t stimulate personal growth , and freedom , two ingredients to excel in great unprecedented work in life. For example , Space Shuttle, SR-71 black bird .. and what not. It also extends to other things , companies , franchises, Hollywood. Technology , education . And the list goes on.
Unlike Russia, China is already a significant threat. And their tech, although behind western equipment, has been catching up.
And I doubt the Chinese would fuck up as badly as Putin's Russia. It's not easy to find a country screwi9ng up a badly as Russia is doping today.
It’s all theoretical… like Russia , we all knew. Hard to tell. But dictatorships fall behind on every step , they are probably 30 years behind western tech. Russia is like 60 - 70 years behind
The western designs they copied are 40 - 50 years old , designs and engineering starts way back before anything is presented.
Imagine what the h is developed now in western countries
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winjer
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It’s all theoretical… like Russia , we all knew. Hard to tell. But dictatorships fall behind on every step , they are probably 30 years behind western tech. Russia is like 60 - 70 years behind
The western designs they copied are 40 - 50 years old , designs and engineering starts way back before anything is presented.
We really don't know how far behind China is from the USA. But we know they are ahead of Russia in all regards.
The reason why this matters is that China and Russia are close to being enemies. They have several areas disputed by both countries.
And they are both trying to leverage advantages over the other. But with the massive failure of the invasion of Ukraine, China now holds all the trumps cards.
If Russia starts to disintegrate, China is bound to pick up several territories from it.
NoLootBoxDev
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Here we go again. During his trip to Europe, Chinese representative Li Hui called for an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine with Russia retaining the occupied regions. Earlier, during talks with Zelenskyy, Hui said that China would help Ukraine and that "the parties should build mutual trust".
wsj.com/articl...
Fuck off China, Ukraine should have asked them to recognize Taiwan as an independent country
It’s all show with these dictatorshipsHere we go again. During his trip to Europe, Chinese representative Li Hui called for an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine with Russia retaining the occupied regions. Earlier, during talks with Zelenskyy, Hui said that China would help Ukraine and that "the parties should build mutual trust".
wsj.com/articl...
Fuck off China, Ukraine should have asked them to recognize Taiwan as an independent country
winjer
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Here we go again. During his trip to Europe, Chinese representative Li Hui called for an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine with Russia retaining the occupied regions. Earlier, during talks with Zelenskyy, Hui said that China would help Ukraine and that "the parties should build mutual trust".
wsj.com/articl...
Fuck off China, Ukraine should have asked them to recognize Taiwan as an independent country
Like Bismark once said:
"He who seeks to buy the friendship of his enemy with concessions, will never be rich enough."
And this is very true for Russia, as any concession, is seen as a victory for them and a reason to prepare the next invasion.
Lunarorbit
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Yup. China hasn't done shit in the modern age against a peer nation. They just fucking around in the south China Sea and by japan.
If they wanna fuck around with Taiwan they'll get their asses rocked. That's probably why they focus on spycraft and hackers destabilizing foreign country's infrastructure. That's the real threat China poses. I don't even care about economic pressure from them cause they are just as reliant on the west to keep their country afloat
If they wanna fuck around with Taiwan they'll get their asses rocked. That's probably why they focus on spycraft and hackers destabilizing foreign country's infrastructure. That's the real threat China poses. I don't even care about economic pressure from them cause they are just as reliant on the west to keep their country afloat
NoLootBoxDev
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winjer
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That is a great way to get the USA to send more weapons for Ukraine.
Seriously, I hope this video is shown all across the USA.
Gp1
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I wouldn't like to see Chinese factories in a free for all piracy mode pumping military hardware out of their lines.
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Tams
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Here we go again. During his trip to Europe, Chinese representative Li Hui called for an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine with Russia retaining the occupied regions. Earlier, during talks with Zelenskyy, Hui said that China would help Ukraine and that "the parties should build mutual trust".
wsj.com/articl...
Fuck off China, Ukraine should have asked them to recognize Taiwan as an independent country
The PRC is such a two-sided shitstain of a country.
Just recently one of their salavage ships was caught desecrating and looting two British war graves. The same ship has done it to Japanese war graves too.
We've just sent a Type 45 to the Caribbean. Well we need a warship in SE Asia sinking these looters. They turn their transponders off, so we could even claim nothing was sunk.
On topic: China's word is worthless and full of empty rhetoric.
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Ballthyrm
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The typical bully behaviour. They see it as weakness to be exploited instead of restraint.
And just like the bully, all it takes is a little pushback for the Bully to understand they are way out of their depth.
Russia got really high on their own supply.
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Madserb2023
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China is a more formidable threat than Russia but then Taiwan is harder to invade than Ukraine, so it will likely end the same. China's main strength is its demographic size and the potential to mobilize more troops than Anerica has people which would make it almost impossible to invade but the key is that America doesn't have too it just needs to blockade the ports with its Navy. Ones of the reasons why they want Taiwan in the first place. One advantage Russia has over China is that it can feed and power itself, China can't.
Tams
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China also have a few megaprojects, that if they were to mysterious be destroyed would guess millions of deaths. It would be very easy to cause dissent in the PRC if you really wanted to and were prepared to be evil. Being invaded would do that though.
And going by Chinese building standards, it likely wouldn't require a direct strike. Something more covert could likely be done.
Russia, because it had been a corrupt mess and is sparsely populated, doesn't have those singular weaknesses. And their economy was already bad.
Tams
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Here's a translation that's not been done by some lazy arse using an 'AI' translator and then not bothered to even check it.
Bitmap Frogs
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According to #NAFOWeather reports, due to rains soil will not allow heavy combat vehicles for at least 7-14 days more.
NoLootBoxDev
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Transfer of nuclear weapons to Belarus, talking openly about helping a coup to Luka. Putler must feel desperate and if he does kick Luka hopes all Belarus military open another front against Ruzzia.
For you Luka:
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NoLootBoxDev
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Slicker than your average
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Transfer of nuclear weapons to Belarus, talking openly about helping a coup to Luka. Putler must feel desperate and if he does kick Luka hopes all Belarus military open another front against Ruzzia.
For you Luka:
This guy is Dumb as hell for constantly going into Russia knowing Putin would probably kill him.
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Currently China has more manufacturing capacity and knowledge than west. Russia can supply oil. I disagree that china is somehow dependent on west and west isn't on china.
Artoris
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China makes most of its money in the west
Whole point of exporting is that you eventually import stuff of equal value. If I export 100 000 trees from my country and dont import stuff of equal value eventually, I am basically 100 000 trees poorer. It doesnt work like you export, get money and somehow you more to spend on domestic products.
In war a lot of the existing manufacturing capacity goes into war effort and is effectively socialized so money doesnt really matter that much. As china manufacturers a lot of the western products, that manufacturing capacity would just go to war effort, and west just simply wouldnt get those products. Its not like china would loose anything if those products previously would have gone to export.
Artoris
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They don't export resources though but what they manufacture they lose nothing and money they make from that can be used for anything they like
including research, education, technology.
Ironbunny
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The OEC data states US to be the biggest importer and exporter when it comes to goods etc with China. Europe comes next. That includes oil. ruZZian oil could not replace that oil in wartime due to transfer problems. It cant do that even in peace time.
Where do you get the idea of China knowing more about manufacturing then west? 90% of chips in the world comes from Taiwan, 10% from USA and 7% from China. Good luck making anything in the short term without cooperation.
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