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S______L for PS5 to be revealed soon (The dedicated blueballs/Kojima 'conspiracy' thread)

Is this new Silent Hill real or fake?

  • Real

    Votes: 330 44.6%
  • Fake

    Votes: 410 55.4%

  • Total voters
    740
  • Poll closed .
My ultimate stance is still there are still waaaay too many coincidences/red flags for it all to be *nothing* but if I believe it's because I *want* it to be true more than anything else. I'm also of the opinion that if it has absolutely nothing to do with Kojima/Silent Hill and really is a new survival-horror IP then cool, as long as it's *good*.

Bottom line, Hassan could very well be a con-man extraordinaire that somehow managed to completely fool SONY while simultaneously fanning the flames and setting himself up for one of the biggest backlashes/disappointments in gaming history or...
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GrayChild

Member
The #TeamReal train goes on. In fact I suspect Kojima is working on two separate projects, one of which being Silent Hills while the other - a smaller episodic title:


There were already reports of BOTH Junji Ito and Norman Reedus contacting Kojima for future collaborations:



 

hyperbertha

Member
has anyone brought up the possibility yet that Konami will just be like Games Workshop going forward, as in they might just licens out their IPs to every shitty dev that gives them enough money?

what if this is Silent Hill, but not made by Kojima or anyone in the AAA industry, but instead actually by a small dev team with barly any talent?

So maybe we will see a Silent Hill game in the quality of those random ass Warhammer games that release every other week because Games Workshop just gives anyone who asks the license?
Their ips are in high demand. If they are indeed leasing out to third parties the high profile ones will get them. At least in a sane normal world.
 

01011001

Banned
Their ips are in high demand. If they are indeed leasing out to third parties the high profile ones will get them. At least in a sane normal world.

Warhammer is also in high demand, as evidenced by the fact so many studios try to male a quick buck with the license, because people buy them.

so I could see Konami doin something similar... would that really be surprising at this point?
 

Aldynes

Member
Warhammer is also in high demand, as evidenced by the fact so many studios try to male a quick buck with the license, because people buy them.

so I could see Konami doin something similar... would that really be surprising at this point?
Yeah it make sense Konami already got themed pachinko machines that are a few years old,so it could be interesting for them to release a Silent Hill game to bring new light to their pachinkos...
 

TheInfamousKira

Reseterror Resettler
So I underwent a fugue state and woke up twenty seven miles away from what they claim is my home, covered in blood and smelling like an empty bourbon bottle that somebody pissed in.

New Silent Hill yet?!
 

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
lol Both of these guys are frauds too. I remember bitching about No Mans Sky being at EVERY single Sony conference for what felt like a good two years. I knew from day one that procedurally game made by 20 people was never going to compete with AAA games. I called the Cyberpunk 2077 downgrade the day they revealed how the first demo ran at 1080p 30 for on a 11 tflops 1080 Ti. There was no way that game was going to run on a 1.3 and 1.8 tflops PS4.

To be fair, No Mans Sky is competing with AAA games now.
 

yurinka

Member
Studio renaming to Blue Balls Studios when?

i regret nothing GIF
I know you're joking, but I think Blue Box may be another studio related with a blue ball/point:
images


DSDC teasing MGS stuff 'handled with care' (the ones who handle with care games of other ones at Sony are Bluepoint, so would mean Bluepoint is working on MGS) but the main character (Kojima) not wanting to be INSIDE THE BOX (cardboard box/MGS/Blue Box logo), Netherlands logo in the DSDC trailer, DS screenshot in the Blue Box youtube channel, Blue Box=BB (DS character), where instead there were oranges (if you invert the image colors you get blue points/balls), if you invert the image of the cardboard box you get a blue box, if you invert colors of the Blue Box logo you get the PlayStation Studios logo, the Abandoned trailer features some frames with inverted colors...
 
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Clear

CliffyB's Cock Holster
team fuck Konami



The Room is still one of the saddest missed opportunities in gaming history. The core stuff belonging to when it was its own game is stellar, but everything hurriedly added to make it another SH title really drags it down. Coming out barely more than a year after SH3 it was clearly rushed to market, and it really shows.
 

Outrunner

Member
Wasn't there a rumor that Kojima was working on 3 separate projects? Two smaller and a bigger one? So it's credible that the two smaller were DS Director's Cut and that episodic thing and the bigger project the Silent Hill reboot. If it's related to Abandoned or not remains to be seen.
 

TheInfamousKira

Reseterror Resettler
The Room is still one of the saddest missed opportunities in gaming history. The core stuff belonging to when it was its own game is stellar, but everything hurriedly added to make it another SH title really drags it down. Coming out barely more than a year after SH3 it was clearly rushed to market, and it really shows.

I loved the story and setting in SH4, but the actual game, like...there was a conference in Japan with a bunch of business men in suits discussing how to make a game that I, specifically would absolutely hate.

"Yeah, let's have switches between first and third person camera perspectives. Then we switch up the tank controls into standard controls for the third person segments to really fuck with the muscle memory. Then we impose an inventory limit, forcing massive amounts of backtracking to the hub area,"

"Ooh, what if we ALSO make the hub area the only place with a save point? And then halfway through the game we start filling it with health draining shit?"

"GOOD IDEA. How about we throw degradable weapons in there, too?"

"Only if we pass my idea to have invincible enemies chase you all over the map!"

"Guys, guys, guys. This is all solid gold, but hear me out here...all of that....PLUS the second half of the game is an escort mission. AND IT'S THROUGH THE SAME AREAS AS THE FIRST HALF!"

"Only if we give the escort absolutely TERRIBLE AI and link the ending you get to how many times she runs into enemies,"

"PRINT IT, YOU GENIUSES!"

Fuck Silent Hill 4.

Edit: Seriously, fuck this game.
 
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DelireMan7

Member
I loved the story and setting in SH4, but the actual game, like...there was a conference in Japan with a bunch of business men in suits discussing how to make a game that I, specifically would absolutely hate.

"Yeah, let's have switches between first and third person camera perspectives. Then we switch up the tank controls into standard controls for the third person segments to really fuck with the muscle memory. Then we impose an inventory limit, forcing massive amounts of backtracking to the hub area,"

"Ooh, what if we ALSO make the hub area the only place with a save point? And then halfway through the game we start filling it with health draining shit?"

"GOOD IDEA. How about we throw degradable weapons in there, too?"

"Only if we pass my idea to have invincible enemies chase you all over the map!"

"Guys, guys, guys. This is all solid gold, but hear me out here...all of that....PLUS the second half of the game is an escort mission. AND IT'S THROUGH THE SAME AREAS AS THE FIRST HALF!"

"Only if we give the escort absolutely TERRIBLE AI and link the ending you get to how many times she runs into enemies,"

"PRINT IT, YOU GENIUSES!"

Fuck Silent Hill 4.

Edit: Seriously, fuck this game.
I haven't play this game but I now want to just to see that with my own eyes xD
 

TheInfamousKira

Reseterror Resettler
I haven't play this game but I now want to just to see that with my own eyes xD

I mean, like I said, the story is really interesting, the lore and the connections to the other games, the new take on previously established elements of the series, etc. The setting is really cool, too. The various areas you travel to are super distinct and each have a flavor, for lack of a better term. Creature design is also ace. Sound design and music is what you'd expect out of Akira Yamaoka.

Literally, everything is perfect and what you'd expect of a Silent Hill, except for everything ELSE. It ends up feeling like a cover band of Silent Hill. All the visual flair, the right instruments, a decent set of covers in the set, but something just feels disingenuous. Also, shit. Something feels shit. (It's the game, it's bad)
 
I don’t understand why suddenly so many people gave up and left the forum. Nothing still makes sense. Look I do believe in coincidences but there are just too many red flags here.

let’s just say the whole name translation thing is just a coincidence. But I have to say according to Wikipedia there are more than 700 Turkish family names and lets even just assume half of those is not very common there is still only a 1 : 350 Chance.

But Someone give just one good reason for the following facts.
1. The studio produced nearly nothing until now, at least nothing worth mentioning and still they are kicking stromg after 6 years and can afford to outsource a lot of work, where is the money coming from?

2. wWhy is Hasan making the Videos in front of a Wall, why not showing just part of the studio, it would be that easy to put all speculations to rest.

3 He is not offering the name of even one other person working there and the people working there are either completely anti social or they are embarrassed to work there and try to hide it?

4. Not one gaming magazine seems to have heard about this Studio not even in the Netherlamds. People tried to find it by using google maps but there is nothing which looks like a studio.

5. Still neither Sony or Kojima productions is saying anything about it. Don’t you think they would defuse the whole situation if it would be really just some small indie studio.

So there must be a logical explanation for this stuff and the only thing I can think of would be that there is more to this studio.
 

Clear

CliffyB's Cock Holster
I haven't play this game but I now want to just to see that with my own eyes xD
Check out this trailer from E3 2004.



For the most part, I think it stands up remarkably well considering its a PS2 title. Admittedly some of the texture work shows its age, but other parts would still look credible in a game made 10 years later. The edit, sound-design and overall art-direction are still stellar.

But. The thing that really stands out to me is the shitty looking title card! It reminds me so much of foreign movies that were released by grindhouse/exploitation distributors and retitled for the English market. Where they just needed a name for the poster/ad-market, so in the trailer/movie itself they just cut in a static frame with some new text sloppily laid out.

Its so slapdash looking that it always stood out to me.
 

S0ULZB0URNE

Member
Check out this trailer from E3 2004.



For the most part, I think it stands up remarkably well considering its a PS2 title. Admittedly some of the texture work shows its age, but other parts would still look credible in a game made 10 years later. The edit, sound-design and overall art-direction are still stellar.

But. The thing that really stands out to me is the shitty looking title card! It reminds me so much of foreign movies that were released by grindhouse/exploitation distributors and retitled for the English market. Where they just needed a name for the poster/ad-market, so in the trailer/movie itself they just cut in a static frame with some new text sloppily laid out.

Its so slapdash looking that it always stood out to me.

Niiiice
 

GinSama

Member
I don’t understand why suddenly so many people gave up and left the forum. Nothing still makes sense. Look I do believe in coincidences but there are just too many red flags here.

let’s just say the whole name translation thing is just a coincidence. But I have to say according to Wikipedia there are more than 700 Turkish family names and lets even just assume half of those is not very common there is still only a 1 : 350 Chance.

But Someone give just one good reason for the following facts.
1. The studio produced nearly nothing until now, at least nothing worth mentioning and still they are kicking stromg after 6 years and can afford to outsource a lot of work, where is the money coming from?

2. wWhy is Hasan making the Videos in front of a Wall, why not showing just part of the studio, it would be that easy to put all speculations to rest.

3 He is not offering the name of even one other person working there and the people working there are either completely anti social or they are embarrassed to work there and try to hide it?

4. Not one gaming magazine seems to have heard about this Studio not even in the Netherlamds. People tried to find it by using google maps but there is nothing which looks like a studio.

5. Still neither Sony or Kojima productions is saying anything about it. Don’t you think they would defuse the whole situation if it would be really just some small indie studio.

So there must be a logical explanation for this stuff and the only thing I can think of would be that there is more to this studio.


Of all theory’s and all the coincidences for me this is the most striking one…..

There’s no way none of them come to try clean their name when all the internet are connecting them to a big project like this with a small indie studio, assuming they are not connected.
 

MrSec84

Member
I don’t understand why suddenly so many people gave up and left the forum. Nothing still makes sense. Look I do believe in coincidences but there are just too many red flags here.

let’s just say the whole name translation thing is just a coincidence. But I have to say according to Wikipedia there are more than 700 Turkish family names and lets even just assume half of those is not very common there is still only a 1 : 350 Chance.

But Someone give just one good reason for the following facts.
1. The studio produced nearly nothing until now, at least nothing worth mentioning and still they are kicking stromg after 6 years and can afford to outsource a lot of work, where is the money coming from?

2. Why is Hasan making the Videos in front of a Wall, why not showing just part of the studio, it would be that easy to put all speculations to rest.

3 He is not offering the name of even one other person working there and the people working there are either completely anti social or they are embarrassed to work there and try to hide it?

4. Not one gaming magazine seems to have heard about this Studio not even in the Netherlamds. People tried to find it by using google maps but there is nothing which looks like a studio.

5. Still neither Sony or Kojima productions is saying anything about it. Don’t you think they would defuse the whole situation if it would be really just some small indie studio.

So there must be a logical explanation for this stuff and the only thing I can think of would be that there is more to this studio.
I personally got really pee'd off with Hasan teasing and not giving anything new, you could see the delay to August for their App coming a mile off.
Colin Moriarty had a load of stuff to point out on his Podcast on YouTube:

The video is separated into chapters, go to 1:11.10 and he breaks it down and discusses with the other two guys why he thinks nothing adds up and something must be going on with this "developer".

Personally I agree with MBG on YouTube that the App is for watching Sony's next or future conferences live on your PS5/PS4 or maybe Smartphone/PC. The delays IMO are teases, this whole thing has been setup to draw attention.
Whether it's Silent Hill, Metal Gear or even some new AAA game is up for debate IMO, but I think way too many coincidences are going on for this to be a low Budget Indie thing.
The whole fact that this Studio hasn't really had any regular output, they have no CV of support work for other studios, they can somehow keep going, without Government backing or funding from any major publishers, obviously Sony seems to be keeping them afloat and paying at least one major support studio that has supplied games for a bunch of expensive big budget projects says a lot and supposedly (if Hasan is telling the truth there) a further 5 or 6 support teams are working with them.

This game has to be a big title at the very least and the reveal is happening at Sony's big Summer event, because that's what the known evidence at least points to.
I think the game could be anything, Kojima's Death Stranding Metal Gear tease could be for Bluepoint's MGS1 remake, which has been heavily rumoured and I wouldn't be surprised if the Blue Box Games Studio is an experiment in how to create a game with multiple smaller teams and one core studio, an established IP or a farmed off title that has been in pre-production at one of Sony's own internal Studios could be what this is.
Such an approach could be a way to keep developments a secret until Sony wants to reveal the game.

This is all just educated guesses, I'm just speculating based on the information we have.
 

Faithless83

Banned
I loved the story and setting in SH4, but the actual game, like...there was a conference in Japan with a bunch of business men in suits discussing how to make a game that I, specifically would absolutely hate.

"Yeah, let's have switches between first and third person camera perspectives. Then we switch up the tank controls into standard controls for the third person segments to really fuck with the muscle memory. Then we impose an inventory limit, forcing massive amounts of backtracking to the hub area,"

"Ooh, what if we ALSO make the hub area the only place with a save point? And then halfway through the game we start filling it with health draining shit?"

"GOOD IDEA. How about we throw degradable weapons in there, too?"

"Only if we pass my idea to have invincible enemies chase you all over the map!"

"Guys, guys, guys. This is all solid gold, but hear me out here...all of that....PLUS the second half of the game is an escort mission. AND IT'S THROUGH THE SAME AREAS AS THE FIRST HALF!"

"Only if we give the escort absolutely TERRIBLE AI and link the ending you get to how many times she runs into enemies,"

"PRINT IT, YOU GENIUSES!"

Fuck Silent Hill 4.

Edit: Seriously, fuck this game.
So much this it hurts. I gave up finishing it near the end.
Never came back to it. It was painful to play.
 

cucuchu

Member
I personally got really pee'd off with Hasan teasing and not giving anything new, you could see the delay to August for their App coming a mile off.
Colin Moriarty had a load of stuff to point out on his Podcast on YouTube:

The video is separated into chapters, go to 1:11.10 and he breaks it down and discusses with the other two guys why he thinks nothing adds up and something must be going on with this "developer".

Personally I agree with MBG on YouTube that the App is for watching Sony's next or future conferences live on your PS5/PS4 or maybe Smartphone/PC. The delays IMO are teases, this whole thing has been setup to draw attention.
Whether it's Silent Hill, Metal Gear or even some new AAA game is up for debate IMO, but I think way too many coincidences are going on for this to be a low Budget Indie thing.
The whole fact that this Studio hasn't really had any regular output, they have no CV of support work for other studios, they can somehow keep going, without Government backing or funding from any major publishers, obviously Sony seems to be keeping them afloat and paying at least one major support studio that has supplied games for a bunch of expensive big budget projects says a lot and supposedly (if Hasan is telling the truth there) a further 5 or 6 support teams are working with them.

This game has to be a big title at the very least and the reveal is happening at Sony's big Summer event, because that's what the known evidence at least points to.
I think the game could be anything, Kojima's Death Stranding Metal Gear tease could be for Bluepoint's MGS1 remake, which has been heavily rumoured and I wouldn't be surprised if the Blue Box Games Studio is an experiment in how to create a game with multiple smaller teams and one core studio, an established IP or a farmed off title that has been in pre-production at one of Sony's own internal Studios could be what this is.
Such an approach could be a way to keep developments a secret until Sony wants to reveal the game.

This is all just educated guesses, I'm just speculating based on the information we have.

Its tough to imagine this not playing out to be something substantial but I have to admit that everything WOULD add up if it turned out Hasan was just conducting some master-class trolling. I don't see WHY he would do that because people are going to eviscerate his game if it turns out not being Silent Hill. I know some people think well, this is all for attention, but I don't see this kind of attention benefitting him if he doesn't have a product that can hold up to both a massive wave of disappointment/ire from this not being silent hill and the following ridicule his project will receive which will likely end up ruining whatever semblance of a career the man has right now.
 
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fragganaut

Member

They are Not Dome yet.

These are their lautest Tweets translated
They narrowed down the prophets, but what about you?
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@Dekogonstudios
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Faithless83

Banned
I don’t understand why suddenly so many people gave up and left the forum. Nothing still makes sense. Look I do believe in coincidences but there are just too many red flags here.

let’s just say the whole name translation thing is just a coincidence. But I have to say according to Wikipedia there are more than 700 Turkish family names and lets even just assume half of those is not very common there is still only a 1 : 350 Chance.

But Someone give just one good reason for the following facts.
1. The studio produced nearly nothing until now, at least nothing worth mentioning and still they are kicking stromg after 6 years and can afford to outsource a lot of work, where is the money coming from?

2. wWhy is Hasan making the Videos in front of a Wall, why not showing just part of the studio, it would be that easy to put all speculations to rest.

3 He is not offering the name of even one other person working there and the people working there are either completely anti social or they are embarrassed to work there and try to hide it?

4. Not one gaming magazine seems to have heard about this Studio not even in the Netherlamds. People tried to find it by using google maps but there is nothing which looks like a studio.

5. Still neither Sony or Kojima productions is saying anything about it. Don’t you think they would defuse the whole situation if it would be really just some small indie studio.

So there must be a logical explanation for this stuff and the only thing I can think of would be that there is more to this studio.
A girl can edge you so much for a limited period of time, if you have access to other girls, you know?

I'm still a believer, but this was a week building hype for a month or more delay afterwards? Fuck this, I have games to play. :messenger_sunglasses:
 
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