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[bitbydeath]

What delayed Sony event? People keep expecting a Sony event but they themselves haven’t mentioned squat.

The one that was supposed to occur in July.
Nobody believed it would be postponed in that thread either just because Abandoned was pushed back.

Sony’s rumoured July event may have been pushed to August - Blue Box reveal pushed to August

Figured this deserved it’s own thread. https://boards.4channel.org/v/thread/561077824#p561077824 Rumour lines up with the Blue Box reveal being pushed to August.

www.neogaf.com

 

[SJRB]

So how does a part of an interview "leak", exactly?

 

[Spank_Magnet]

The one that was supposed to occur in July.
Nobody believed it would be postponed in that thread either just because Abandoned was pushed back.

Sony’s rumoured July event may have been pushed to August - Blue Box reveal pushed to August

Figured this deserved it’s own thread. https://boards.4channel.org/v/thread/561077824#p561077824 Rumour lines up with the Blue Box reveal being pushed to August.

www.neogaf.com

Was that the one that was supposed to come after the last state of play, the one that everyone expected would be an extravaganza of announcements of new and remastered titles?

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

The ride that never ends

 

[gmilh]

This is absolutely nothing but a shitty indie dev grasping at straws.

Yeah no. Sorry but if you believe at this point that this is really an indie company, you're a very bad observant.
Just look at the Abandoned app, first thing you see is support for something like 7 languages, the order in which they are presented looks very industry standard, and if you try different languages in the following screen the translations for the only message in the app as of now, also read really professionally made.
Why is this important you ask? Well I'm myself an indie developer myself, looked at several indie games, and I know the workflow of several indie companies... you can tell this app was not made by indies.
Indies do not prioritise localisation in the slightest, if they did they'd prioritise the languages most known by the team members, and often they'd either google translate them or involve their community.
Now Blue Box is allegedly a dutch studio, if you look at games from the average dutch studio, they usually only have English or English and Dutch, but in the Abandoned app 'Nederlands' if listed 4th or 5th I think, which is more in line with the industry standard that you see in your average triple A game.
Now of course, they might have just copied the order from any triple A game, but then again why wouldn't any indie company do that then? Because actually localising the game for all those languages is expensive, and in an indie company you usually find only core game developers, rather than people with that kind of expertise. And since indie games are usually very niche and those companies can't afford global marketing in the first place, localising the game would almost always be a bad investment of money and time.

So if you take this, which I'm sure you'll call out as nitpicking, but being experience in this field I am sorry do disagree with you, but it's absolutely not, and combine facts like that Sony wouldn't give all this exposure (when I opened PS Store it was literally the 3rd game on the top bar) to an indie company which only released a broken prototype on Steam, that no indie company would have the manpower to create this kind of never seen before demo app just to promote their title, that they made a trailer using placeholder assets clearly to create an history for their project without giving away anything concrete about it, that the only person from this team we ever saw was that Kahrameran guy or however his name is spelled, that the Blue Box twitter account is giving hints upon hints, and all the other things surrounding this title. I am sorry but if after all of this you still believe into the narrative that this is just an indie, you're just fooling yourself.

 

[Spank_Magnet]

So how does a part of an interview "leak", exactly?

Allegedly the OP sent his recording of a private call to the mods of a Reddit forum to disprove all the rumours swirling around. Apparently one of them (who is no longer a mod btw) posted this snippet over the weekend.

 

[bitbydeath]

Was that the one that was supposed to come after the last state of play, the one that everyone expected would be an extravaganza of announcements of new and remastered titles?

Yeah, the one with the first footage of the new God of War title.

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

Yeah no. Sorry but if you believe at this point that this is really an indie company, you're a very bad observant.
Just look at the Abandoned app, first thing you see is support for something like 7 languages, the order in which they are presented looks very industry standard, and if you try different languages in the following screen the translations for the only message in the app as of now, also read really professionally made.
Why is this important you ask? Well I'm myself an indie developer myself, looked at several indie games, and I know the workflow of several indie companies... you can tell this app was not made by indies.
Indies do not prioritise localisation in the slightest, if they did they'd prioritise the languages most known by the team members, and often they'd either google translate them or involve their community.
Now Blue Box is allegedly a dutch studio, if you look at games from the average dutch studio, they usually only have English or English and Dutch, but in the Abandoned app 'Nederlands' if listed 4th or 5th I think, which is more in line with the industry standard that you see in your average triple A game.
Now of course, they might have just copied the order from any triple A game, but then again why wouldn't any indie company do that then? Because actually localising the game for all those languages is expensive, and in an indie company you usually find only core game developers, rather than people with that kind of expertise. And since indie games are usually very niche and those companies can't afford global marketing in the first place, localising the game would almost always be a bad investment of money and time.

So if you take this, which I'm sure you'll call out as nitpicking, but being experience in this field I am sorry do disagree with you, but it's absolutely not, and combine facts like that Sony wouldn't give all this exposure (when I opened PS Store it was literally the 3rd game on the top bar) to an indie company which only released a broken prototype on Steam, that no indie company would have the manpower to create this kind of never seen before demo app just to promote their title, that they made a trailer using placeholder assets clearly to create an history for their project without giving away anything concrete about it, that the only person from this team we ever saw was that Kahrameran guy or however his name is spelled, that the Blue Box twitter account is giving hints upon hints, and all the other things surrounding this title. I am sorry but if after all of this you still believe into the narrative that this is just an indie, you're just fooling yourself.

Some people are just contrarians, others are dumb... finally some, are just overly careful and very pessimistic about things that could get them excited.
That's ok, things should get more clear by the end of next week
#teamreal4life

 

[TheGodfather07]

All doubters have to do is look at shuhei yoshida's response when asked about "abandoned".

They're all in on it. If you cant see it by now, you never will. Sony are obviously waiting for a specific time to make the announcement. We are all hoping it's part of a big showcase.

 

[SJRB]

Allegedly the OP sent his recording of a private call to the mods of a Reddit forum to disprove all the rumours swirling around. Apparently one of them (who is no longer a mod btw) posted this snippet over the weekend.

Good lord, why is everything involving these guys so fucking stupid.

 

[bitbydeath]

All doubters have to do is look at shuhei yoshida's response when asked about "abandoned".

They're all in on it. If you cant see it by now, you never will. Sony are obviously waiting for a specific time to make the announcement. We are all hoping it's part of a big showcase.

Or even Geoff’s response when asked about it.

 

[IlGialloMondadori]

Yeah no. Sorry but if you believe at this point that this is really an indie company, you're a very bad observant.
Just look at the Abandoned app, first thing you see is support for something like 7 languages, the order in which they are presented looks very industry standard, and if you try different languages in the following screen the translations for the only message in the app as of now, also read really professionally made.
Why is this important you ask? Well I'm myself an indie developer myself, looked at several indie games, and I know the workflow of several indie companies... you can tell this app was not made by indies.
Indies do not prioritise localisation in the slightest, if they did they'd prioritise the languages most known by the team members, and often they'd either google translate them or involve their community.
Now Blue Box is allegedly a dutch studio, if you look at games from the average dutch studio, they usually only have English or English and Dutch, but in the Abandoned app 'Nederlands' if listed 4th or 5th I think, which is more in line with the industry standard that you see in your average triple A game.
Now of course, they might have just copied the order from any triple A game, but then again why wouldn't any indie company do that then? Because actually localising the game for all those languages is expensive, and in an indie company you usually find only core game developers, rather than people with that kind of expertise. And since indie games are usually very niche and those companies can't afford global marketing in the first place, localising the game would almost always be a bad investment of money and time.

So if you take this, which I'm sure you'll call out as nitpicking, but being experience in this field I am sorry do disagree with you, but it's absolutely not, and combine facts like that Sony wouldn't give all this exposure (when I opened PS Store it was literally the 3rd game on the top bar) to an indie company which only released a broken prototype on Steam, that no indie company would have the manpower to create this kind of never seen before demo app just to promote their title, that they made a trailer using placeholder assets clearly to create an history for their project without giving away anything concrete about it, that the only person from this team we ever saw was that Kahrameran guy or however his name is spelled, that the Blue Box twitter account is giving hints upon hints, and all the other things surrounding this title. I am sorry but if after all of this you still believe into the narrative that this is just an indie, you're just fooling yourself.

Is localization really that expensive? There are lots of outsourcing options that aren't that expensive, and if there isn't that much text in your trailer app, it shouldn't be that expensive overall.
If we're looking at a trailer app with a couple of pages of text - let's go high end at 1000 words, and high end of cost at 0.20 cents a word, and 7 languages.
That works out to $1400.00 USD.

 

[Spank_Magnet]

Good lord, why is everything involving these guys so fucking stupid.

I guess they just want to believe.
A video was posted where a guy went through wayback machine to look at the wackiness that is the BB website. Someone asked in the comments how much it would take to get WB to put fake pages in to play along…and undermining any integrity that the site has! SMH.

WRT the leaked interview: This is just what I gathered lurking around the Reddit about it. If anyone wants to correct me feel free.

 

[Spank_Magnet]

Is localization really that expensive? There are lots of outsourcing options that aren't that expensive, and if there isn't that much text in your trailer app, it shouldn't be that expensive overall.
If we're looking at a trailer app with a couple of pages of text - let's go high end at 1000 words, and high end of cost at 0.20 cents a word, and 7 languages.
That works out to $1400.00 USD.

I wouldn’t say high-end. Let’s not forget all the typos and weird grammatical stuff repeated across translations (rogue apostrophe). To me it looked like a Google translate job.

 

[IlGialloMondadori]

I wouldn’t say high-end. Let’s not forget all the typos and weird grammatical stuff repeated across translations (rogue apostrophe). To me it looked like a Google translate job.

Exactly. I chose the high end of amount of text and the high end of cost, even though I don't think that's what we're seeing here, to demonstrate that even then, it's not very expensive.

I don't see how translation and localization is the big tell for this to be some AAA gigantic game. It's not, and the translations they've done atm look auto translated through either google translate or cheap outsourcing without significant checking.

 

[Kamina]

By now I am convinced that we are all conteolled by the patriots.

La Li Lu Le Lo

 

[jaysius]

Or even Geoff’s response when asked about it.

He still is a kid journalist, he just keeps failing upward, dude is a hack and a clown.

He works in an industry that is so starved for anyone with even a quarter of a brain that they’ve allowed this mouth breather to become their hype man, sports journalists are smarter than game “hype machine“ journalists.

 

[Dick Jones]

By now I am convinced that we are all conteolled by the patriots.

La Li Lu Le Lo

 

[TheGodfather07]

By now I am convinced that we are all conteolled by the patriots.

La Li Lu Le Lo

kojima is a member of the patriots! it all makes sense! how is the guy so connected? how did he predict the future all the way back in 2001? even death stranding kinda predicted the pandemic! i knew there was something fishy about him.

 

[Shane89]

Keep believing that shit.

uh oh, someone has been triggered

 

[dwish]

What delayed Sony event? People keep expecting a Sony event but they themselves haven’t mentioned squat.

What we do have is that PS blogpost explaining that we would hear more about God of War, Gran Turismo, etc. later in the summer.

Edit: https://blog.playstation.com/2021/0...ursday-for-an-extended-look-at-deathloop/amp/

 

[Spank_Magnet]

What we do have is that PS blogpost explaining that we would hear more about God of War, Gran Turismo, etc. later in the summer.

Edit: https://blog.playstation.com/2021/0...ursday-for-an-extended-look-at-deathloop/amp/

That link doesn’t say anything about GT…
And nothing about an event…
it mentions “updates” over the summer but it’s bit vague…

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

#teamfake for the last couple months...

 

[TheGodfather07]

That link doesn’t say anything about GT…
And nothing about an event…
it mentions “updates” over the summer but it’s bit vague…

can mean either 2 things. a state of play or a longer showcase like the 2 they did last year. we'll have to wait and see.

 

[GuinGuin]

Yeah no. Sorry but if you believe at this point that this is really an indie company, you're a very bad observant.
Just look at the Abandoned app, first thing you see is support for something like 7 languages, the order in which they are presented looks very industry standard, and if you try different languages in the following screen the translations for the only message in the app as of now, also read really professionally made.
Why is this important you ask? Well I'm myself an indie developer myself, looked at several indie games, and I know the workflow of several indie companies... you can tell this app was not made by indies.
Indies do not prioritise localisation in the slightest, if they did they'd prioritise the languages most known by the team members, and often they'd either google translate them or involve their community.
Now Blue Box is allegedly a dutch studio, if you look at games from the average dutch studio, they usually only have English or English and Dutch, but in the Abandoned app 'Nederlands' if listed 4th or 5th I think, which is more in line with the industry standard that you see in your average triple A game.
Now of course, they might have just copied the order from any triple A game, but then again why wouldn't any indie company do that then? Because actually localising the game for all those languages is expensive, and in an indie company you usually find only core game developers, rather than people with that kind of expertise. And since indie games are usually very niche and those companies can't afford global marketing in the first place, localising the game would almost always be a bad investment of money and time.

So if you take this, which I'm sure you'll call out as nitpicking, but being experience in this field I am sorry do disagree with you, but it's absolutely not, and combine facts like that Sony wouldn't give all this exposure (when I opened PS Store it was literally the 3rd game on the top bar) to an indie company which only released a broken prototype on Steam, that no indie company would have the manpower to create this kind of never seen before demo app just to promote their title, that they made a trailer using placeholder assets clearly to create an history for their project without giving away anything concrete about it, that the only person from this team we ever saw was that Kahrameran guy or however his name is spelled, that the Blue Box twitter account is giving hints upon hints, and all the other things surrounding this title. I am sorry but if after all of this you still believe into the narrative that this is just an indie, you're just fooling yourself.

I also think Sony wouldn't allow for just any developer to start "polluting" the store with free "apps." The store is far more curated than something like Google Play and they've put a lot of work into it lately.

 

[mckmas8808]

can mean either 2 things. a state of play or a longer showcase like the 2 they did last year. we'll have to wait and see.

I can't wait.

 

[Javthusiast]

Yeah no. Sorry but if you believe at this point that this is really an indie company, you're a very bad observant.
Just look at the Abandoned app, first thing you see is support for something like 7 languages, the order in which they are presented looks very industry standard, and if you try different languages in the following screen the translations for the only message in the app as of now, also read really professionally made.
Why is this important you ask? Well I'm myself an indie developer myself, looked at several indie games, and I know the workflow of several indie companies... you can tell this app was not made by indies.
Indies do not prioritise localisation in the slightest, if they did they'd prioritise the languages most known by the team members, and often they'd either google translate them or involve their community.
Now Blue Box is allegedly a dutch studio, if you look at games from the average dutch studio, they usually only have English or English and Dutch, but in the Abandoned app 'Nederlands' if listed 4th or 5th I think, which is more in line with the industry standard that you see in your average triple A game.
Now of course, they might have just copied the order from any triple A game, but then again why wouldn't any indie company do that then? Because actually localising the game for all those languages is expensive, and in an indie company you usually find only core game developers, rather than people with that kind of expertise. And since indie games are usually very niche and those companies can't afford global marketing in the first place, localising the game would almost always be a bad investment of money and time.

So if you take this, which I'm sure you'll call out as nitpicking, but being experience in this field I am sorry do disagree with you, but it's absolutely not, and combine facts like that Sony wouldn't give all this exposure (when I opened PS Store it was literally the 3rd game on the top bar) to an indie company which only released a broken prototype on Steam, that no indie company would have the manpower to create this kind of never seen before demo app just to promote their title, that they made a trailer using placeholder assets clearly to create an history for their project without giving away anything concrete about it, that the only person from this team we ever saw was that Kahrameran guy or however his name is spelled, that the Blue Box twitter account is giving hints upon hints, and all the other things surrounding this title. I am sorry but if after all of this you still believe into the narrative that this is just an indie, you're just fooling yourself.

They translated a couple of lines of text into multiple languages, not a whole fucking game, calm down. Even a shitty indie dev can do this.

 

[TheGodfather07]

I can't wait.

same. either way i dont care. obviously i would prefer a big 60-90 min showcase but i'll take a state of play with a gameplay presentation of god of war and a release date. maybe sony will save a conference for PSX in december?

 

[Spank_Magnet]

I also think Sony wouldn't allow for just any developer to start "polluting" the store with free "apps." The store is far more curated than something like Google Play and they've put a lot of work into it lately.

It’s very strange. Looking back over the history of the company with the chopping and changing of game names, viewpoints, graphic styles etc. at the drop of a hat , it seems very doubtful any publisher doing even the smallest amount of due diligence would touch them with a barge pole.
I‘ve got a pal who used to work in acquisitions and his reaction to the stuff prior to the “reveal” was; Nah! Crap demo, crap tech, flaky/sketchy company. Hard pass.

 

[Ramz87]

Sony said to announce Metal Gear Solid and Silent Hill game "very soon"

According to a source close to Sony, new Metal Gear Solid and Silent Hill videogames will announced "very soon" and Hideo Kojima is involved.

t.co

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

Sony said to announce Metal Gear Solid and Silent Hill game "very soon"

According to a source close to Sony, new Metal Gear Solid and Silent Hill videogames will announced "very soon" and Hideo Kojima is involved.

t.co

That website's acronym is literally PT...

 

[Kdad]

Sony said to announce Metal Gear Solid and Silent Hill game "very soon"

According to a source close to Sony, new Metal Gear Solid and Silent Hill videogames will announced "very soon" and Hideo Kojima is involved.

t.co

For those who don't like url shorteners
https://poptopic.com.au/news/sony-said-to-announce-metal-gear-solid-and-silent-hill-game-very-soon/

Personally didn't click on it as i'm imagining poptopic isn't a primary source but is just summarizing reddit/GAF

 

[GuinGuin]

For those who don't like url shorteners
https://poptopic.com.au/news/sony-said-to-announce-metal-gear-solid-and-silent-hill-game-very-soon/

Personally didn't click on it as i'm imagining poptopic isn't a primary source but is just summarizing reddit/GAF

They said it was their source.

 

[Kdad]

They said it was their source.

Well there ya go...so nothing new.

 

[GuinGuin]

Well there ya go...so nothing new.

Read it. There is definitely new info.

 

[8BiTw0LF]

“Abandoned Realtime Experience” teaser/trailer is all that fans want it to be, plus a whole lot more.

 

[Dabaus]

If it’s too good to be true that means it probably is.

 

[Kdad]

Read it. There is definitely new info.

Read it...didn't see anything new. But, I've read this whole thread and paid attention to Reddit.

 

[kyoji]

He still is a kid journalist, he just keeps failing upward, dude is a hack and a clown.

He works in an industry that is so starved for anyone with even a quarter of a brain that they’ve allowed this mouth breather to become their hype man, sports journalists are smarter than game “hype machine“ journalists.

Bruh wtf… i got no words smh

 

[CityHunter1981]

They say they have a source close to Sony. However I couldn’t really find new infos expect that the Death Stranding Trailer is a teaser for the new MGS game. I guess they mean the announcement trailer since that had strong MGS vibes.

 

[CityHunter1981]

I want that so hard to happen, I only need Silent Hills but the MGS I want to piss of the XBOTs, they had their fun with the Bethesda purchase, but now it’s our turn.

 

[Faithless83]

If it’s too good to be true that means it probably is.

Usually I agree, but we now live in a post FF7R world.
Sony is all in with the idea of PS5 being the Playstation console with the most exclusives, that adds fuel to the fire.
They have BluePoint (yeah, not confirmed, but wait and see), and nostalgia for "dead IPs" is on an all time high.
It's easier to greenlit such projects, considering the development cost and the almost certain profit behind it.

New IPs are hard to create, Silent Hills is an insta buy for most just for the story behind it.
Sony saving dead franchises is a great PR move.

 

[Hugare]

He still is a kid journalist, he just keeps failing upward, dude is a hack and a clown.

He works in an industry that is so starved for anyone with even a quarter of a brain that they’ve allowed this mouth breather to become their hype man, sports journalists are smarter than game “hype machine“ journalists.

Eat your Snickers, dude

“Abandoned Realtime Experience” teaser/trailer is all that fans want it to be, plus a whole lot more.

Half Life 3 and Chrono Trigger remake confirmed

Thank you Kojimbo

 

[mckmas8808]

Sony said to announce Metal Gear Solid and Silent Hill game "very soon"

According to a source close to Sony, new Metal Gear Solid and Silent Hill videogames will announced "very soon" and Hideo Kojima is involved.

t.co

Why is it always "soon" with Sony?

 

[Dabaus]

Usually I agree, but we now live in a post FF7R world.
Sony is all in with the idea of PS5 being the Playstation console with the most exclusives, that adds fuel to the fire.
They have BluePoint (yeah, not confirmed, but wait and see), and nostalgia for "dead IPs" is on an all time high.
It's easier to greenlit such projects, considering the development cost and the almost certain profit behind it.

New IPs are hard to create, Silent Hills is an insta buy for most just for the story behind it.
Sony saving dead franchises is a great PR move.

Ff7 is episodic With no indication of how long, if ever they’ll finish it. That’s the definition of too good to be true.

Don’t get me wrong, I want these rumors to be true, I’m just trying to be realistic.

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

I want that so hard to happen, I only need Silent Hills but the MGS I want to piss of the XBOTs, they had their fun with the Bethesda purchase, but now it’s our turn.

This is not about them, it's about us
Let's be happy and celebrate once it's confirmed, no need to piss anyone off

 

[rofif]

“Abandoned Realtime Experience” teaser/trailer is all that fans want it to be, plus a whole lot more.

Duke Nukem Foreve 2001/2002 released ?!
Thje Darkness 2007 ported to pc ?!
Gears 2 and 3 on pc ?!!!!
Thank heavens

 

[Faithless83]

Ff7 is episodic With no indication of how long, if ever they’ll finish it. That’s the definition of too good to be true.

Don’t get me wrong, I want these rumors to be true, I’m just trying to be realistic.

FF7 on that level of quality demanded that. They'll finish it for sure. People who didn't buy it "because it's not complete" are missing out on a great game. I think it's a great balance. They are also releasing a more "traditional" remake on mobile (yeah I know, but see it being ported to consoles later on).

Back on topic, this has been rumored for a long time now. I seriously don't get the doubt about it, with everything pointing out to be true.

 

[mckmas8808]

This is not about them, it's about us
Let's be happy and celebrate once it's confirmed, no need to piss anyone off

100% agreed!

 

[TheGodfather07]

i always knew that death stranding metal gear tease had more to it. lets not forget that kojima worked at konami for a long time. they couldnt hold that grudge forever. especially when theres money to be made. sony probably helped it along too, as MGS is one of the core ip that built the PlayStation brand from the beginning. its one of the games that helped PlayStation take off.