Setsuna Mudou
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Those 2 things are not mutually exclusive
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SafeOrAlone
Banned
I mean, you're just playing semantics with the word "proven" when the real point of interest is how big a craw is up your ass about it lol.
Right or wrong, at the end of the day, the biggest asses in the room are the ones who can't conduct themselves like an adult when discussing entertainment.
People are having fun with their theories. Try not to let it get to you.
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Darwinning
Banned
He didn't say they were.
It doesn't change the fact that #TeamReal thinks that BlueBox, Abandoned and Hasan is related to Kojima, Sony and either Konami properties - Silent Hill or MGS.
Airbus Jr
Banned
Theory suggests Hasan Kahraman of BLUE BLOX is a digital human
Is Hasan Kahraman a CGI digital human?
The BLUE BOX Studios conspiracy theory has hit a whole new level as some people believe Hideo Kojima has created a digital human to troll the internet.
Is Hasan Kahraman a real person? There’s very little info about the man and nearly every social media profile about him he has claimed is fake. Could the BLUE BOX Studios developer be a digital human created by Hideo Kojima?At this point we all know that there’s something more to the PlayStation 5 exclusive horror-survival game Abandoned. Although there are a lot of people still on the fence whether this is just some ARG marketing ploy for a next-gen Silent Hill reveal, most people are dead set that there are some big developers behind the game, maybe even Hideo Kojima himself.
One of the biggest hints was how involved reputable game journalist Geoff Keighley was with this “small indie game.” And now that PlayStation’s God of War developer Cory Barlog is chiming in, the sirens are sounding.
Speaking of sirens, when curious internet sleuths searched for Hasan Kahraman they discovered his verified PlayStation Network profile. It appeared to be very fake considering it showcased a game that doesn’t even exist called Siren Head. The game’s cover art showed a silhouette of the fictional 40-feet tall horror-being. People were quick to connect the dots between Siren Head and Silent Hill after they discovered an interview a Silent Hill composer talking about the character.
Shortly after this was discovered the officially Konami account tweeted out the sound of the haunting Silent Hill siren going off. Furthermore, Konami refused to confirm nor deny whether the BLUE BOX Game Studios was at all linked to the upcoming reboot and even continued to tease, and even indirectly confirmed that Abandoned is Silent Hill on their Instagram account.
Now, the BLUE BOX Studios conspiracy is bizarre rabbit hole and you might find yourself going a little crazy after discovering all the seemingly impossible coincidences that link Abandoned to Silent Hill and Kahraman to Kojima, but what’s even more mind boggling is the reference to “Siren” and how Kahraman just might actually be a “digital human.”
Kahraman’s digital fingerprint only goes as far back as 2017 and he has no previous link to any other major studios. His professional portfolio only consists of only a few unreleased indie games and apps. Even more questions are raised with these indie game titles as the short-lived Kickstarter for a BLUE BOX Game Studios game Rewind: Voices Of The Past was temporarily released under the name “Playable Trailer”. Another game that raised flags is called The Haunting: Blood Water Curse, and it was released for free to Steam for a few days. However, people couldn’t get past the title screen.
A user on the The Blue Box Conspiracy subreddit pointed out a connection between The Haunting: Blood Water Curse and the classic PlayStation franchise known as Siren.
“Blood Water Curse is such a blatant rip-off of Siren, down to the name itself, that I’m sure that the only reason it wasn’t caught before is the hype around this being Silent Hill,” the user wrote highlighting the games plot as the give-away.
“Sarah Fineman is a journalist who is in search of her brother, Josh, visits the Red Water Woods. Hoping that she would find her brother there, she finds the woods being haunted with ghosts and comes across an occult who wants to sacrifice her and her brother to complete their ritual.”
The user continues to explain the similarities in both name and plot, saying, “The basic (full spoilers ahead, they’re needed to make sense of the weird connections) plot of Siren is that the deeply religious rural town of ‘Hanuda’ is controlled by a secret cult called the Mana who want to resurrect an alien god named Datatsushi that they ate many years ago. When a paranormal investigator interrupts one of the rituals, the town is thrown into an alternate dimension that exists outside of space and time.”
“In this alternate town, all water has been replaced by ‘red water’, which is blood of the alien god they ate, going as far as surrounding the town in a literal ocean of the stuff. The titular siren, also known as the god’s call, compels people to come in contact with the red water, which turns them into weird zombie-like creatures called Shibito.”
The game originally appeared under Hasan Kahraman’s profile before it was moved over to a Netherland based company called CreateQ/BrickQ; yet another strange company with minimal information and social media engagement. Even as writing this article the official website for the company went down! Anyway, why is this important?
The company shares a similar name to UneeQ, a New Zealand based company that specialises in something called “digital humans” specifically in human-like artificial intelligence. Bit when it comes to uncanny realistic and life-like real-time rendering of digital beings project “Siren” springs to mind.
Siren was created as a proof-of-concept demonstration of what is possible to achieve in Unreal Engine. The collaborative project included contributions from several leaders in digital human technology: 3Lateral completed 3D and 4D scanning of actress Bingjie Jiang; data was acquired in the 3Lateral scanning system.
There are several companies researching “digital humans”, one of these companies is also another New Zealand based company called Soul Machines and they are recognised as the world leader in humanising AI to create astonishing Digital People — and get this — one of their biggest partners is Sony.
Shortly before Hasan Kahraman appeared online, Hideo Kojima made a visit to New Zealand. He was visiting the country on behalf of Sony but the company refused to disclose the exact details of his visit. However, Kojima made the time to meet up with Peter Jackson and his his company Weta Workship which is known for creating the most lifelike CGI in showbiz.
According to industry insiders Hideo Kojima has been working on several projects and it was rumoured that the production of a Silent Hill reboot started in late 2016 or early 2017. We know that Hideo Kojima likes to make incredible leaps with each new game, and we also know that he wanted Silent Hills to mess with us on social media and in real-time.
Could it be that Hasan Kahraman is nothing more than a digital human or a soul machine; a proverbial “Siren Head” that is designed to question our subjective realities? We know the tech to creating lifelike CGI is almost there. Sony — with the help of Kojima, Jackson, del Toro and Soul Machines — could have cooked up their own version of Siren.
Hasan Kahraman does bare a striking resemblance to Soul Machines Ava, Autodesk Virtual Assistant (as seen above). Her cheeks, lips, jawline, nose and even eyes look very similar. Ava was created by Soul Machines in 2017, the same year that Kahraman first appeared online and the same year that production of Silent Hill had reportedly started.
The video response uploaded to Kahraman’s Twitter timeline seemed very unprofessional coming from somebody that is supposedly working with massive studios to bring us an exclusive PlayStation 5 title. It looked like it was filmed in a dark empty room with a static flashlight. Was the lighting done poorly to purposely hide the small details that would give away the fact that Hasan Kahraman is CGI digital human?
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baphomet
Member
Hard to have an actual conversation with anyone from TeamReal since the most vocal members have the critical thinking and deduction skills of a child.
Remember, Kojima talking about a book said it's Thursday, not Tuesday. So it's Thursday, where are we moving the goal posts now? Next Thursday?
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tommib
Gold Member
GHG
Gold Member
Theory suggests Hasan Kahraman of BLUE BLOX is a digital human
Is Hasan Kahraman a CGI digital human?
The BLUE BOX Studios conspiracy theory has hit a whole new level as some people believe Hideo Kojima has created a digital human to troll the internet.
Is Hasan Kahraman a real person? There’s very little info about the man and nearly every social media profile about him he has claimed is fake. Could the BLUE BOX Studios developer be a digital human created by Hideo Kojima?
At this point we all know that there’s something more to the PlayStation 5 exclusive horror-survival game Abandoned. Although there are a lot of people still on the fence whether this is just some ARG marketing ploy for a next-gen Silent Hill reveal, most people are dead set that there are some big developers behind the game, maybe even Hideo Kojima himself.
One of the biggest hints was how involved reputable game journalist Geoff Keighley was with this “small indie game.” And now that PlayStation’s God of War developer Cory Barlog is chiming in, the sirens are sounding.
Speaking of sirens, when curious internet sleuths searched for Hasan Kahraman they discovered his verified PlayStation Network profile. It appeared to be very fake considering it showcased a game that doesn’t even exist called Siren Head. The game’s cover art showed a silhouette of the fictional 40-feet tall horror-being. People were quick to connect the dots between Siren Head and Silent Hill after they discovered an interview a Silent Hill composer talking about the character.
Shortly after this was discovered the officially Konami account tweeted out the sound of the haunting Silent Hill siren going off. Furthermore, Konami refused to confirm nor deny whether the BLUE BOX Game Studios was at all linked to the upcoming reboot and even continued to tease, and even indirectly confirmed that Abandoned is Silent Hill on their Instagram account.
Now, the BLUE BOX Studios conspiracy is bizarre rabbit hole and you might find yourself going a little crazy after discovering all the seemingly impossible coincidences that link Abandoned to Silent Hill and Kahraman to Kojima, but what’s even more mind boggling is the reference to “Siren” and how Kahraman just might actually be a “digital human.”
Hasan Kahraman low quality Twitter response.
Kahraman’s digital fingerprint only goes as far back as 2017 and he has no previous link to any other major studios. His professional portfolio only consists of only a few unreleased indie games and apps. Even more questions are raised with these indie game titles as the short-lived Kickstarter for a BLUE BOX Game Studios game Rewind: Voices Of The Past was temporarily released under the name “Playable Trailer”. Another game that raised flags is called The Haunting: Blood Water Curse, and it was released for free to Steam for a few days. However, people couldn’t get past the title screen.
A user on the The Blue Box Conspiracy subreddit pointed out a connection between The Haunting: Blood Water Curse and the classic PlayStation franchise known as Siren.
“Blood Water Curse is such a blatant rip-off of Siren, down to the name itself, that I’m sure that the only reason it wasn’t caught before is the hype around this being Silent Hill,” the user wrote highlighting the games plot as the give-away.
“Sarah Fineman is a journalist who is in search of her brother, Josh, visits the Red Water Woods. Hoping that she would find her brother there, she finds the woods being haunted with ghosts and comes across an occult who wants to sacrifice her and her brother to complete their ritual.”
The user continues to explain the similarities in both name and plot, saying, “The basic (full spoilers ahead, they’re needed to make sense of the weird connections) plot of Siren is that the deeply religious rural town of ‘Hanuda’ is controlled by a secret cult called the Mana who want to resurrect an alien god named Datatsushi that they ate many years ago. When a paranormal investigator interrupts one of the rituals, the town is thrown into an alternate dimension that exists outside of space and time.”
“In this alternate town, all water has been replaced by ‘red water’, which is blood of the alien god they ate, going as far as surrounding the town in a literal ocean of the stuff. The titular siren, also known as the god’s call, compels people to come in contact with the red water, which turns them into weird zombie-like creatures called Shibito.”
The game originally appeared under Hasan Kahraman’s profile before it was moved over to a Netherland based company called CreateQ/BrickQ; yet another strange company with minimal information and social media engagement. Even as writing this article the official website for the company went down! Anyway, why is this important?
The company shares a similar name to UneeQ, a New Zealand based company that specialises in something called “digital humans” specifically in human-like artificial intelligence. Bit when it comes to uncanny realistic and life-like real-time rendering of digital beings project “Siren” springs to mind.
Siren was created as a proof-of-concept demonstration of what is possible to achieve in Unreal Engine. The collaborative project included contributions from several leaders in digital human technology: 3Lateral completed 3D and 4D scanning of actress Bingjie Jiang; data was acquired in the 3Lateral scanning system.
NExT (New Experiences and Technology) Studios “Siren” is very realistic and has teeth like Hasan.
There are several companies researching “digital humans”, one of these companies is also another New Zealand based company called Soul Machines and they are recognised as the world leader in humanising AI to create astonishing Digital People — and get this — one of their biggest partners is Sony.
Shortly before Hasan Kahraman appeared online, Hideo Kojima made a visit to New Zealand. He was visiting the country on behalf of Sony but the company refused to disclose the exact details of his visit. However, Kojima made the time to meet up with Peter Jackson and his his company Weta Workship which is known for creating the most lifelike CGI in showbiz.
Ava, uncanny lifelike real-time digital human created by Soul Machines who communicates via social media.
According to industry insiders Hideo Kojima has been working on several projects and it was rumoured that the production of a Silent Hill reboot started in late 2016 or early 2017. We know that Hideo Kojima likes to make incredible leaps with each new game, and we also know that he wanted Silent Hills to mess with us on social media and in real-time.
Could it be that Hasan Kahraman is nothing more than a digital human or a soul machine; a proverbial “Siren Head” that is designed to question our subjective realities? We know the tech to creating lifelike CGI is almost there. Sony — with the help of Kojima, Jackson, del Toro and Soul Machines — could have cooked up their own version of Siren.
Hasan Kahraman does bare a striking resemblance to Soul Machines Ava, Autodesk Virtual Assistant (as seen above). Her cheeks, lips, jawline, nose and even eyes look very similar. Ava was created by Soul Machines in 2017, the same year that Kahraman first appeared online and the same year that production of Silent Hill had reportedly started.
The video response uploaded to Kahraman’s Twitter timeline seemed very unprofessional coming from somebody that is supposedly working with massive studios to bring us an exclusive PlayStation 5 title. It looked like it was filmed in a dark empty room with a static flashlight. Was the lighting done poorly to purposely hide the small details that would give away the fact that Hasan Kahraman is CGI digital human?
Yep exactly the possibility I thought of when I realised we haven't seen any videos of this guy in scenarios where there isn't a solid coloured background behind him.
Setsuna Mudou
Member
He inferred it by saying "you believe this, I believe that"
I already stated clearly what I believe as a proud member of #teamreal, Hasan, real or not, has no fucking game at all. This entire thing is a ploy by Sony and (most likely) Kojima to tease those Konami IP and them being revived.
I don't understand the weird obsession most vocal #teamfake have with this Hasan dude. Him being an actor, a developer, a con man, or an AI is completely irrelevant. He's a Joakim Mogren, meaning, not important at all for the whole thing.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Someone said they are TeamReal but think Hasan has nothing to do with it.
That's how that convo started about how you can't be TeamReal w/o thinking Hasan is involved.
Setsuna Mudou
Member
mmmmm... not sure... the guy I was replying to originally seemed to be hinting he was #teamfake although believing MGS and SH are coming. I mean, outside of this whole ARG, Konami sure as hell wouldn't be making it themselves.
tbh if someone thinks the games are coming and Sony is involved, they are #teamreal in my book, regardless of Hasan. I only think he's related because I'm convinced Sony would have killed this rumor right on day 0 if he wasn't.
Having Shu play coy on twitter destroys the argument Sony aren't aware of this whole thing. Plus this topic "abandoned", "kojima", "bluebox" were trending on twitter gaming 2 days ago. This is definitely not just a GAF thing
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
He is; follow that convo back from the post you replied to.. it started w/ someone oddly saying they were TeamReal but think Hasan isn't involved.
baphomet
Member
mmmmm... not sure... the guy I was replying to originally seemed to be hinting he was #teamfake although believing MGS and SH are coming. I mean, outside of this whole ARG, Konami sure as hell wouldn't be making it themselves.
tbh if someone thinks the games are coming and Sony is involved, they are #teamreal in my book, regardless of Hasan. I only think he's related because I'm convinced Sony would have killed this rumor right on day 0 if he wasn't.
Having Shu play coy on twitter destroys the argument Sony aren't aware of this whole thing. Plus this topic "abandoned", "kojima", "bluebox" were trending on twitter gaming 2 days ago. This is definitely not just a GAF thing
That isn't what TeamReal is. TeamReal is specifically using Hasan as either a front for Kojima to develop Silent Hill/MGS, that BlueBox is developing Silent Hill, or that the Abandoned app is somehow going to be where Sony reveal the IP they're using from Konami.
TeamFake is that Hasan has nothing to do with anything other than his own indie game he's developing.
There is 100% a new MGS and Silent Hill coming, possibly with Kojima's involvement. But none of it is related to Hasan or Abandoned, which is the entire point of this thread (TeamReal/TeamFake).
Setsuna Mudou
Member
Ah so if that's the case, I open the doors to #teamreal to our buddy there
MGS, SH, Castlevania (maybe) #Believe
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Dat battery tho, from reddit
SJRB
Gold Member
Calverz
Member
You are a prime example of why Sony need to step in and shut this whole charade down. But they won’t. As they are benefiting from this hysteria. They want the mgs and silent hill ip’s. The more fan hysteria blue balls get the more Konami’s head is turned.mmmmm... not sure... the guy I was replying to originally seemed to be hinting he was #teamfake although believing MGS and SH are coming. I mean, outside of this whole ARG, Konami sure as hell wouldn't be making it themselves.
tbh if someone thinks the games are coming and Sony is involved, they are #teamreal in my book, regardless of Hasan. I only think he's related because I'm convinced Sony would have killed this rumor right on day 0 if he wasn't.
Having Shu play coy on twitter destroys the argument Sony aren't aware of this whole thing. Plus this topic "abandoned", "kojima", "bluebox" were trending on twitter gaming 2 days ago. This is definitely not just a GAF thing
Setsuna Mudou
Member
It's ok, we take you in buddy. If you believe in MGS and SH with Kojima, that's all it takes for me and I'm here from day 0.
Don't be distracted by this Hasan in any way.
Setsuna Mudou
Member
getting some PTSD with that battery level, can't think of anything else... fuck's sakeNot me speaking to him.
baphomet
Member
Again, you're missing the entire point of the thread.
Setsuna Mudou
Member
I fully believe they are in on it from the beginning. These deals happen way way before they are announced.
Man the DS director's cut trailer Kojima made is so on the nose I can't believe how someone can say nothing is up with a straight face
IlGialloMondadori
Member
bro. You better start at page 1 and get reading, because you ain’t getting it.
spartan30gr
Member
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Setsuna Mudou
Member
Again?
IlGialloMondadori
Member
If that’s what it takes. We’ll do it together. We can hold hands, read the posts, reminisce about the early days of Hasan and his clown troupe.
tommib
Gold Member
See, we’re all friends at the end.
Ramz87
Member
Why don’t you enlighten us to the point of this thread then as you know so much?
Setsuna Mudou
Member
Well, if you put it that way... now I'm feeling tempted...
(don't tell my wife though)
SafeOrAlone
Banned
I just think these crazy little theories are harmless and getting upset with believers, to the point of snobbery, is lame.
Imagine a homeless, obviously crazy man running around in circles on the street yelling "the end is nigh!!"
Well now imagine how silly the pedestrian next to you looks when they run out into the street after and arguing "no it's not! No it's not! No it's not!!"
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GHG
Gold Member
Yes it would be but it wouldn't be the first time it's happened.
What's more ridiculous is the fact that this guy has no picture on the Internet other than the one that is my avatar and that's despite being the head of a videogames development studio since 2015.
JimRyanGOAT
Member
Even with all the strange coincidences, I gotta admit...
Hassan comes across as incompetent
He just throws out claims and dates like its nothing
Hassan comes across as incompetent
He just throws out claims and dates like its nothing
THE:MILKMAN
Member
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Hassssan
Darwinning
Banned
And he's got a history of this with his "real-time trailers" and apps. (Since before Kojima even left Konami -- can someone explain that?)
When he started saying his game had more detail that RDR2... I knew we're dealing with a hyperbolic indie-dev.
Can anyone picture even Kojima making claims like this?
Also, someone could still be #TeamFake about THIS whole Abandoned/BlueBox mess, and still think that MGS and Silent Hill are eventually coming.
GHG
Gold Member
tommib
Gold Member
He can make those claims (4K,60FPS,RDR2) because he knows nothing will be released. It’s as easy as that.
Also, 100%.
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OK anyone doubting Abandoned has anything to do with Kojima needs to look at this Tweet from Kojima:
Translated it reads:
"We received a gorgeous proof of "Murder in an abandoned amusement park" by Yuki Shashindo! Actually, the mystery of Mr. Shashindo is unread. Last year, I picked up "Paradise is the absence of a detective" many times. I missed the opportunity to read it. I'm sure he also recommended Bayan. I will entertain you"
Translated it reads:
"We received a gorgeous proof of "Murder in an abandoned amusement park" by Yuki Shashindo! Actually, the mystery of Mr. Shashindo is unread. Last year, I picked up "Paradise is the absence of a detective" many times. I missed the opportunity to read it. I'm sure he also recommended Bayan. I will entertain you"
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IlGialloMondadori
Member
What are the wins again? Is it another day, a truly momentous day - the historical 7th anniversary of PT - a day we were told would be the one where Abandoned was unveiled to be Silent Hill Solid…and yet all we have is another day of Hasan with his thumb up his ass?So many wins for #TeamReal today!
Glorious days incoming!
ethomaz
Banned
The worst I keep asking who this guy is every time
tommib
Gold Member
O
Isn’t this just a book recommendation of something? I bet Hideo never even played SH3. He doesn’t like horror games.
It’s also the worst SH of the original Team Silent games. Controversial, I know.
Isn’t this just a book recommendation of something? I bet Hideo never even played SH3. He doesn’t like horror games.
It’s also the worst SH of the original Team Silent games. Controversial, I know.
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8BiTw0LF
Banned
And this!
"Robbie the Rabbit is an anthropomorphic rabbit character that has made appearances in many of the Silent Hill games. He is a mascot of Lakeside Amusement Park and has much merchandise based on him, usually as a doll." - Robbie the Rabbit | Silent Hill Wiki | Fandom
hyperbertha
Member
ethomaz
Banned
Well we are very early in the generation and for me it is indeed the game of generation until now... that I agree with him.Returnal game of the generation?
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SoraNoKuni
Member
#TeamFake can potentially win, but at what cost?
I believe #TeamReal and #TeamFake deep inside want Kojima to be behind this clownfiesta.
I believe #TeamReal and #TeamFake deep inside want Kojima to be behind this clownfiesta.