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SbF: Super Best Friends Play Thread: ReBoot
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ArclightBorealis
Member
Only three comments I've seen thus far, but they pretty much go to the effect of "this is what I wanted" or "best new video on the channel". Though given how brief they are it could just be getting in on it ironically. No real clue, but it's only us here that I've seen any strong negative reactions.
Again, I'm still not sure what to think, especially because the concept is something I kinda wanted to happen, and there was at least a good amount of thought put behind this from Matt...but that sort of thing doesn't always result in a hit.
Let's just hope tomorrow night they at least send off Rustlemania II on a positive note. That's all I need at this point. Just one last big highlight.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
Ultimate_Trainer
Member
GOD DAMN IT ALF noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo,
I don't know much about wrestling but the video was just fight? for some reason? It would have been much better if they had set up storylines in why they had to fight or what was on the line. If I wanted to see people fight I would just go in a shady alley or a fight club. The concept is solid, but execution was so poor they had to throw there references in there to make it better/worse?
skLaFarebear
Member
Finally getting around to watching the video. Lots of talent and hard work being fucked up by poor scripting, bad commentary and a really long run time?
This is either a mediocre video or the most meta commentary on current wrestling that I've ever seen.
This is either a mediocre video or the most meta commentary on current wrestling that I've ever seen.
misses bull
Banned
the gaf thread is the only place where I see people saying this video sucks. I'm pretty surprised
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
but think of the liams!
Pure_Phazon
Member
Yeah that video wasn't great. The matches in 2k are just too boring, and most of the commentary was bad. I did like when Max came out and got a beatdown by the Predator, that was pretty funny. Oh and wrestler Zach is too creepy lol
ArclightBorealis
Member
On a rewatch of this, I'm almost inclined to believe the latter.
Hell, I've started to lean towards the side of liking it just as a crazy train wreck of sorts. The commentary is cringe, yes, but some of the stuff that's actually happening on screen is kinda special in its own way.
Well I am kind of bias in the topic of Liam by avoiding next to every LP he is in. I think the channel and podcast is strongest with the founding pillars of Matt, Pat, and Woolie
I want more Mario Party shenanigans.
ArclightBorealis
Member
Woolie isn't so much a founding pillar of anything but more of an eternal punching bag for jokes about pie stealing and, well, anything else Matt and Pat can come up with on the spot.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
yeah..
skLaFarebear
Member
smh Baz no selling that hype ass chokeslam then tapping right after. Just awful.
alright those last 10 minutes were pretty great.
alright those last 10 minutes were pretty great.
I suppose Woolie is not so much I pillar as much as he was there when I started watching the channel. He would have been if he wasn't blinded by SFIV streams
I dislike the game with a fiery passion and can't be bothered watching/listening to an entire LP based around it.
It's a crap game. But not good crap like Prison Break where its funny. Just a crap nothing game that was lucky enough to have a great series name stapled onto it.
I like what they were going for and if it was a 5 minute video with the best bits then that'd be killer but 50 minutes of forced comedy is...it just can't be done captain they dinnae have the power.
Still, wooo rustlemania's over give me new LP's \o/
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
You're not missing much. It's mainly Matt and Woolie bullshitting while shitting on the game that Liam plays competently. Even hating the game as much as I do, it gets real old listening to people just shit on something for 12 parts.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
He was still with fighterpedia and touring Daigo.
skLaFarebear
Member
I admit that even with my super biased enjoyment of Star Fox Adventures, holy fuck this game aged worse than I thought. No idea why of all the collectathon Rare games this is the one I like.
I feel like there was a lot of stuff Matt/whoever wanted to do with the storyline, but wasn't able to for some reason. There was a lot of things introduced that never amounted to anything, like the stuff with Cranky or the tall hooded guy (I'm not sure who he was supposed to be). I feel it might have worked better as a sketch-type thing instead of a connected storyline. It already sorta felt like that with the abrupt cuts to things like the Max joke and the Gorrilla finding the briefcase.
ArclightBorealis
Member
fighter what?
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
a 240p show of who?
Imperfected
Member
Zone-tan vs. Plague in a Bra & Panties Match should be the headline event for the next ZWF show.
That sounds like it was recorded from a iPhone no less.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
You know Plague would win because hes HUGE from building that fence.
E_Darkness
Member
Am I watching a different video than the youtube comments? everyone seems to love it.
Perhaps this is what happens when you join gaf. You become cold and cynical. I can think of no other explanation.
E_Darkness
Member
who pedia?
Imperfected
Member
I was okay with the video, though I'm not sure why they'd do something this extensive and not actually have Pat and Liam involved, rather than just pulling soundbytes for them. I mean, you went to the trouble of getting Taka to record a line, but not the two you have there in-house?
E_Darkness
Member
Maybe I am being a bit cynical. I'll give the video another shot.
Ultimate_Trainer
Member
Some of their effort got lost in places.
That transparency doesn't seem that hard/tedious...
In case people wanted to see Matt's comment on the video.
This is probably why some of it feels haphazard or why Pat or Liam don't do much of anything.
My initial cringe wore off and now I'm just kind of left with it being another rustlemania video. I can't connect with it much since I don't care about wrestling, the matches don't have a lot going on, a lot of random events happening, and a story I don't really care about. I do think the commentary is actually pretty fine actually. It got some fine chuckles out of me with dumb goofs with like Titans/Eotans.
I would of preferred them all reacting to a goofy dead silent story made up by Matt in the story creator, but oh well. Also if crowd noise could of been turned down then that would of been nice.
If you want to believe that sure. I do wonder how much is colored by the domino effect of one person saying it's bad and then that effecting other peoples initial impressions. That's not really a thing you can gauge easily since it's hard to see where the bias begins and ends, but that always seemed like it might be a thing to me.
This is probably why some of it feels haphazard or why Pat or Liam don't do much of anything.
My initial cringe wore off and now I'm just kind of left with it being another rustlemania video. I can't connect with it much since I don't care about wrestling, the matches don't have a lot going on, a lot of random events happening, and a story I don't really care about. I do think the commentary is actually pretty fine actually. It got some fine chuckles out of me with dumb goofs with like Titans/Eotans.
I would of preferred them all reacting to a goofy dead silent story made up by Matt in the story creator, but oh well. Also if crowd noise could of been turned down then that would of been nice.
If you want to believe that sure. I do wonder how much is colored by the domino effect of one person saying it's bad and then that effecting other peoples initial impressions. That's not really a thing you can gauge easily since it's hard to see where the bias begins and ends, but that always seemed like it might be a thing to me.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
Seems like a ton of work, even after the work for those amv intros.
lol, I was just joking. The domino effect is certainly real though and shapes our expectations of what we are about to watch. Doubt it something that most people could help although not looking at any comments can minimize it. As for me Rustlemania II has just been unhype all around. Maybe I'll like this video more coming back to it later.
chaobreaker
Member
I really liked that video actually. But then again I just watched Pax Rumble a couple of hours ago and found that to be amazing as well. Guess I have a thing for amateur video game wrestling leagues.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
Watching the video. this is so dumb i love it. At least Mr. Cena got a few good hits in.
Imperfected
Member
Thank you hotdogmanjojo.tumblr.com
Thank you so much
I should try revisiting Rustlemania 1 to see how that goes. It's been a while so I don't even remember my impressions of it much. Overall Rustlemania 2 has just left me with the same old wrestling jokes and goofs that I've absorbed over the years without ever watching wrestling.
It's definitely a groove that takes effort for me to settle into. It's just that wrestling hump I have to get over where 90% of it might be kind of boring/playing the video game and then 10% hype shenanigans. Bummed that I missed Paxamania live, but I'll catch the archive tomorrow.
Thank you so much
I keep accidentally doing this of reading comments via here, the reddit, youtube, or whatever. It's a pattern that's hard to stop.
I should try revisiting Rustlemania 1 to see how that goes. It's been a while so I don't even remember my impressions of it much. Overall Rustlemania 2 has just left me with the same old wrestling jokes and goofs that I've absorbed over the years without ever watching wrestling.
It's definitely a groove that takes effort for me to settle into. It's just that wrestling hump I have to get over where 90% of it might be kind of boring/playing the video game and then 10% hype shenanigans. Bummed that I missed Paxamania live, but I'll catch the archive tomorrow.
skLaFarebear
Member
Yeah i turned on the video too. I really enjoyed how amateur and goofy it all felt, but S/O to Woolie and Matt for putting in the extra effort. It definitely looked like an editing nightmare.
Also, that gif is amazing ^^^
Also, that gif is amazing ^^^
DXLelouch153
Banned
meh i enjoyed the video
but then again my hypemeter is through the roof as i finished Steven Universe today
also lol that Tiger Millionaire cameo
but then again my hypemeter is through the roof as i finished Steven Universe today
also lol that Tiger Millionaire cameo
I really liked the new Rustlemania video, but I've probably got a bias towards these kinds of projects, having spent months working on stuff like Danganwrestling.
It's really difficult to tell a good story using the Yuke's WWE story designer. It requires a ton of patience and creativity. There are only so many scenes you can use that may fit with whatever preconceived script you have. For instance, if you want 4 people talking to each other, there's basically only one animation that's suitable for that. It's even hard just getting two characters to encounter one another for a basic dialogue exchange.
Not to mention the interface is a freaking mess trying to figure out how many characters can be used in what scene, what happens in the scene, how much text you can fit in a text box and for how long (which I see Matt got around by putting in the text in post). And the loading times. My God, the loading times...
But despite all that, I freakin' love when people make what I can only describe as "art" with these tools. That's why I want the story designer back in WWE 2K16, and there's tons of room for improvement to make the tools more robust and user friendly.
It's really difficult to tell a good story using the Yuke's WWE story designer. It requires a ton of patience and creativity. There are only so many scenes you can use that may fit with whatever preconceived script you have. For instance, if you want 4 people talking to each other, there's basically only one animation that's suitable for that. It's even hard just getting two characters to encounter one another for a basic dialogue exchange.
Not to mention the interface is a freaking mess trying to figure out how many characters can be used in what scene, what happens in the scene, how much text you can fit in a text box and for how long (which I see Matt got around by putting in the text in post). And the loading times. My God, the loading times...
But despite all that, I freakin' love when people make what I can only describe as "art" with these tools. That's why I want the story designer back in WWE 2K16, and there's tons of room for improvement to make the tools more robust and user friendly.
DeadPhoenix
Member
Not the greatest thing I've ever seen and certainly some cringe moments, but I enjoyed it overall(including some of the cringe moments). I at least watched the whole thing which is more then I can say for a lot of the wrestling videos... of course I used to watch wrestling back when I was a babbie, so it had that going for it.