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SbF: Super Best Friends Play Thread: ReBoot
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lol he's going to be 150+ at like the third, second last area in the game at that point
Whatever I'm tapping out of this shit now anyway, Kay's back and Jeff Green's still streaming I have options that don't involve MULTIPLE ESTOCS LIKE FUCKING SERIOUSLY
I haven't even started the LP yet, but I'm really enjoying just being on the outer edge enough to get some good shit like this.
I'm also not sure how Pat avoided the easiest method to keep playing, but not overlevel. Just spend the souls on items or lose them permanently. If he wants to have fun with all the weapons and nonsense then just grind for titanite, pay to level them up, and then you can show them off when recording happens. No leveling, just paying for dumb upgrades, armors, a fuckton of arrows, or whatever. Switching up weapons constantly without the fear of major damage mitigation would probably be good for the LP.
I'm also not sure how Pat avoided the easiest method to keep playing, but not overlevel. Just spend the souls on items or lose them permanently. If he wants to have fun with all the weapons and nonsense then just grind for titanite, pay to level them up, and then you can show them off when recording happens. No leveling, just paying for dumb upgrades, armors, a fuckton of arrows, or whatever. Switching up weapons constantly without the fear of major damage mitigation would probably be good for the LP.
Xux
Member
Seriously. Pat's responses have been really tame for the shit he's getting but it's still amusing.
He has like every weapon upgraded tho. He's grinding out shards too
Stuff with Liam? I like all of them to some extent, I just fall off of the ones that aren't perfect. Can't expect perfect all the time I suppose.
I don't like Liam in general, at all.
I'm probably going stop watching the ds3 play through but is pretty funny that Pattron is pretty much souls Batman. I actually laughed when I saw the fire estoc.
I don't know really. I watch next to nothing of their stuff anymore. I only watch it if its a game that interests me or has a pairing I like, I tend to only watch stuff with Pat and Woolie. Then chances are I'll give up the LP since their commentary can decrease in quality over time. Maybe I grew out of their content or maybe they've changed over the past few years idk. I know one thing is that I can't be bothered with blind LPs when it comes to new games I could not care less about that concept, but since thats what the majority of their fans want then I won't fight it.
Me too I won't watch anything he's in anymore.
Like really for all the snark I can give Pat, honestly it's not his fault but that was the wish of the community.
I just genuinely think that blind souls LP are always an awful awful idea. They're particular obtuse games on which you get a reading before and after your first playthrough. And souls 3 particularily so with it's new weapon dynamics and incredibly stupid NPC questline requirements sometimes.
I remember talking about this ages ago in this thread on old LPs and I still subscribe to the school of thought that LPs should service the game as well as the let's player. And nonblind stuff I prefer the best actually. Sure you lose genuine reactions but honestly some of the best i've seen like the Trespasser LP from Researchindicates, cybershells sonic series lp, diabetus's mario galaxy 2 lp on which he brings on guests. Hell even out of the best friends on the channel right now I find their strongest stuff to be twilight princess or punisher because they already know the game a bit and can bantz more easily.
Although a lot of blind stuff can be fun too especially most AAA games which usually guide you anyway through the motions and don't need much extra investment. I just find souls games blind LPs, especially from the community itself (ENB, tbfp and such) very grating to watch. PARTICULARILY with 3 because, like ENB said, "souls is dead" and the sense of discovery is gone and everyone including the players is trying to use their soul mojo constantly to be better than the game before the game even takes a swing.
At least the kay LP is still relaxing as hell ´_>`
It's also my only genuien complaint about the actual LP. Commentary is super redundant and thank god woolie and matt are here to break the monotony
I just genuinely think that blind souls LP are always an awful awful idea. They're particular obtuse games on which you get a reading before and after your first playthrough. And souls 3 particularily so with it's new weapon dynamics and incredibly stupid NPC questline requirements sometimes.
I remember talking about this ages ago in this thread on old LPs and I still subscribe to the school of thought that LPs should service the game as well as the let's player. And nonblind stuff I prefer the best actually. Sure you lose genuine reactions but honestly some of the best i've seen like the Trespasser LP from Researchindicates, cybershells sonic series lp, diabetus's mario galaxy 2 lp on which he brings on guests. Hell even out of the best friends on the channel right now I find their strongest stuff to be twilight princess or punisher because they already know the game a bit and can bantz more easily.
Although a lot of blind stuff can be fun too especially most AAA games which usually guide you anyway through the motions and don't need much extra investment. I just find souls games blind LPs, especially from the community itself (ENB, tbfp and such) very grating to watch. PARTICULARILY with 3 because, like ENB said, "souls is dead" and the sense of discovery is gone and everyone including the players is trying to use their soul mojo constantly to be better than the game before the game even takes a swing.
At least the kay LP is still relaxing as hell ´_>`
It's also my only genuien complaint about the actual LP. Commentary is super redundant and thank god woolie and matt are here to break the monotony
Oh you can just go in crucifixion wood and kill the one in the ruins across the giant crystal lizard. Takes a shitload of time but knowing Pat that's not a problem
I thought his point was more that he won't actively seek spoilers but people would eventually be tweeting him this that and the other thing. And people did exactly that.
As for how to farm, killing the black knight in the road of sacrifices again and again (he respawns).
As for what to watch, personally I find DXHR and the Punisher both quite good.
I agree those are the only two Lps I have been watching, their both solid.
Wait, it respawns? I had no idea. I swore I went back and it wasn't there.
And yeah, Zelda, HR, and Punisher are all fantastic.
Yup, I thought it was a one-time thing too (like they were in DS1) but I noticed when returning after resting at the closest bonfire and returning that there he was again.
E_Darkness
Member
I mean my main issue is the fact Pat has grinded to the degree where I can invade him with an end game character.
I don't get the argument that this undermines the playthrough or makes it less entertaining to watch either. Is it honestly more entertaining to see him die to normal enemies and go through the same areas over and over? The best parts of the playthrough are always when something sudden/unexpected happens and I don't see how his level would really affect that
The skin tho
Uno Venova
Banned
Xux
Member
Aside from trivial stuff like IQ, it's jarring how similar the game looks to the second one.
Also, the video was pretty good. Liam needs to be in more stuff.
GlassEmpires
Member
I could PM you Civil War spoilers
Then why do people bust his balls for being over-leveled?
Well, kinda yeah.
I feel the danger of getting caught off guard or overextending yourself and dying is a fairly large part of the experience of playing a Souls game, and Pat at this point can just stroll around and brute force every encounter by flailing around a bit which removes basically all tension.
Uno Venova
Banned
This.
And now bosses are easier because the amount of hits they take to get killed are lowered.
What???? People have problems with how the best friends are playing a Souls game?????
This has never happened before..... Surely there aren't 2 other playthroughs they can reference to see how shit their fans handle them playing souls games, no no no of course not.
It sure was a great idea to let the fans decide how you wanted to do your first LP of the game.
Learning the game at your own pace, then doing a LP where you could tell your audience interesting things about a area, show off cool weapons and armor, hell you probably even know some interesting lore....
But no. Let's slowly fumble thru the game, pick maybe 1 or 2 weapons and basically take everything in the game at face value because you don't have time to sit and look at things because you have an audience to entertain.
Oh the fans don't want them to grind? [even though that's the only way to get certain armor and weapons]. Wait, what? You're overleveled from all the grinding you had to do to get that armor? Well now that just won't do.. the people that wanted a blind LP want to see them have as much trouble as they did in their first playthroughs.......with no one watching.
This has never happened before..... Surely there aren't 2 other playthroughs they can reference to see how shit their fans handle them playing souls games, no no no of course not.
It sure was a great idea to let the fans decide how you wanted to do your first LP of the game.
Learning the game at your own pace, then doing a LP where you could tell your audience interesting things about a area, show off cool weapons and armor, hell you probably even know some interesting lore....
But no. Let's slowly fumble thru the game, pick maybe 1 or 2 weapons and basically take everything in the game at face value because you don't have time to sit and look at things because you have an audience to entertain.
Oh the fans don't want them to grind? [even though that's the only way to get certain armor and weapons]. Wait, what? You're overleveled from all the grinding you had to do to get that armor? Well now that just won't do.. the people that wanted a blind LP want to see them have as much trouble as they did in their first playthroughs.......with no one watching.
I mean, they decided it would be a blind LP months and months ago. People keep chalking it up to fan pressure, but I don't know if that's really all to blame.
Then throwing himself off a cliff is probably the better solution like I said if he is already getting all of his weapons to +4 or whatever titanite appropriate area he's at.
Yep, Liam is always a favorite for me in LPs. Him being actually good at games is always a winner for me.
GlassEmpires
Member
That feels like a poor argument in the face of gimmicks like the Abyss Watchers. Having the health to tank a few more hits and the strength to land a few more doesn't feel like it would cut a boss fight's length by a significant margin.
The best part so far is Pat's Totally Correct Tour of Dark Souls' Famous Landmarks and People of Interest
just let them play the game the way they want to.
This idea that there is one way to do things is silly. There are a shitton of LPs for DS3...I am sure you can find one that works for you.
Not to mention he has been getting wrecked in recent episodes so its not like overlevling changed that either.
This idea that there is one way to do things is silly. There are a shitton of LPs for DS3...I am sure you can find one that works for you.
Not to mention he has been getting wrecked in recent episodes so its not like overlevling changed that either.
Imperfected
Member
I'm still enjoying the Souls LP, and it's still pulling down double the numbers of most of their content and triple that of stuff like Woolie's Reboot, so I'm pretty sure they aren't overly chuffed.
skLaFarebear
Member
2 am podcast? Thanks woolie.
Even as a part of the FGC, the souls community is easily the worst community I'm a part of.
Even as a part of the FGC, the souls community is easily the worst community I'm a part of.
Imperfected
Member
Pat's probably playing with a 360 pad, eh? I have the same shit happen where every time I try to cycle usable items I swap my shield slot item. Dat shitty D-Pad, baby.
skLaFarebear
Member
It's been almost a week since the last Twilight Princess episode.
I need it.
I need it.
RecursiveFault
Banned
Souls community being so bad nowadays only hurts because in like 2011-12 it was awesome, tons of helpful people who just loved the game.
Imperfected
Member
Basically. The community went from, "These games are actually really awesome, but kind of obtuse. Let me help you get started so you can enjoy them," to "You aren't supposed to be able to find things, casual, git gud or git gone."
The original community was about people coming together to help each other: to figure out the nearly indecipherable lore, to puzzle through the poorly-documented mechanics, or just to help new players figure out where to go when one of the worst examples of early level design in a game funneled thousands of hopeless would-be players into Skeleton Holocaust Zone and would have otherwise caused them to drop the game in frustration.
The modern community is all about telling people off for wanting to experience the games in anything but the most adverse conditions and trying to make everything harder than it has to be.