ScarJo takes lead role in GHOST IN THE SHELL

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Nah, they'll have a new character that is like an hacker (ambiguous bad guy at first) that is an handsome white guy with a leather jacket, and it's also pretty badass in combat.
Probably name Jack or something like that.

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Although again, Akira today doesn't make much sense, without the culturally rebellious and punk undertones the original had.
I think it would work fine. Instead of being topical like it was in the 80s, it'd be more retro.

And we all know how much people like retro.
 
Casting someone with star power like Scarlett leaves them some room to cast Ron Perlman as Batou.

Despite her not being Asian, she does kind of remind me of the Major.
 
I wonder how many 3 point landings will see in this movie lol

It'll open with one, the famous naked dive from the original movie.

There's probably another one against the tank.

And then they can cram in a few more in between.

I'd say 4 or 5 3-point landings.
 
This wouldn't be the start of Rinko's career.

She didn't get any big hits before though. That's the point. Hollywood has gotten pretty risk averse and it's kind of a dumb cycle now. You won't become a start without at least medium budget movies, but you won't get cast in big budget without being a star. At this point the best way to promote such actress would be to use existing big IPs, comic books movies, the biggest YA titles. You will run into zealot fans there, but they're in minority and general audience won't care. And if they like her in such movie they are likely to follow her into her own riskier flick.
 
Why not just change the name to Guardians of the Ghosts at this point?
 
But Moon and District 9 are autheur movies.

I dunno how much that actually matters, though: District 9 happened after said auteur director couldn't get the Halo movie made - said director just revealed pre-production art for a non-existent Alien movie he wanted to make, too.

There's no reason Ghost in the Shell couldn't be a director's dream project. It likely isn't, but that's because it looks as if it's being developed with an eye towards being a huge tentpole film first and foremost, as opposed to being a good adaptation of a well-known story.

Basically, I'm arguing against misplaced corporate focus here. There's a way for this adaptation to still make the studio money without having to run the gauntlet of bullshit that comes with ballooning the budget to 200 mil and having to face the complaints of "whitewashing" that are sure to foam up around its ankles.

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You need to look at an example like Dredd to see the opposite example, there was clearly some care and understanding put in that movie, despite the (relatively) low budget.
Unfortunately it also bombed massively, so i'm not sure what it proves.

Dredd bombed mostly because a) the marketing wasn't great and b) Stallone's original put SUCH a fucking stink on the name and the property that the film couldn't get around it. Those two factors - plus the fact that even if you had no idea what Dredd was, the name "Dredd" just seems too goofy to take seriously ("He-Man" is going to have the same problem if that ever goes into production) and you see why that ate shit at the box-office, although it found life on home video.

But yeah, Dredd is a much better example than the other two I gave. Dredd didn't cost that much, looked great, and even more importantly, translated the world it was set in to live-action really, really well.

There isn't even that much spectacle in GitS.

This, too.
 
I would pay top dollar to see Scarjo beat the shit out of Perlman.
Watch ScarJo's character in GITS end up exactly how Lucy did

on a cell phone saying I'm everywhere

Nah, this will happen in the eventual Serial Experiments Lain Hollywood adaptation starring Scarjo.

Scarjo will be the face and voice of AI in the coming decade.

Referring to the casting "suggestions" in the thread.
 
Casting someone with star power like Scarlet leaves them some room to cast Ron Perlman as Batou.

Despite her not being Asian, she does kind of remind me of the Major.

I feel like the Major's basic personality changed a lot between the comics and the animated adaptations. ScarJo's Lucy was closest to the SAC Major, which is cold and dull most of the time.
 
as long as they don't pull a Dragon Ball Evolution, I guess it's ok

she was a basically Akira
-chan
with a lot less crazyness on Lucy, but like you said guys, the movie as a whole has me more concerned
 
There's a way for this adaptation to still make the studio money without having to run the gauntlet of bullshit that comes with ballooning the budget to 200 mil and having to face the complaints of "whitewashing" that are sure to foam up around its ankles.

But studios just don't care about such small movies anymore. You either go big or you go home.
Also..Moon and Discrict9 were awesome, but they were obviously low budget flicks, not spectacle flick. GITS actually has pretty complex storiline. If you won't go crazy budget the IP would be better served on TV where it's ideas could actually be realized fully.
 
She didn't get any big hits before though. That's the point. Hollywood has gotten pretty risk averse and it's kind of a dumb cycle now. You won't become a start without at least medium budget movies, but you won't get cast in big budget without being a star. At this point the best way to promote such actress would be to use existing big IPs, comic books movies, the biggest YA titles. You will run into zealot fans there, but they're in minority and general audience won't care. And if they like her in such movie they are likely to follow her into her own riskier flick.

Pacific Rim isn't a big hit? It's getting a sequel and spinoffs
 
Casting someone with star power like Scarlett leaves them some room to cast Ron Perlman as Batou.

Despite her not being Asian, she does kind of remind me of the Major.

I agree, I think both she and Margot Robbie who was also up for it are actually pretty good choices.

I'm way less confident about the director than anything to do with ScarJo.
 
GitS is absolutely the story I would want to see get $200 million dumped on, but there's no way Hollywood would do it justice. It doesn't seem to care about it enough at this point.

As for the casting, they should just have it written so she's still Japanese but spends the whole movie in a cyborg body that looks like a white woman.
 
Also..Moon and Discrict9 were awesome, but they were obviously low budget flicks, not spectacle flick. GITS actually has pretty complex storiline. If you won't go crazy budget the IP would be better served on TV where it's ideas could actually be realized fully.

Oh, I know. Again, I'm not so much disagreeing with you as I'm just being a doofy idealist in public again
 
What can I say that hasn't already? Just another white-washed Hollywood film I won't be seeing.

GitS is absolutely the story I would want to see get $200 million dumped on, but there's no way Hollywood would do it justice. It doesn't seem to care about it enough at this point.

As for the casting, they should just have it written so she's still Japanese but spends the whole movie in a cyborg body that looks like a white woman.

That would be worse in a lot of ways.
 
Pacific Rim isn't a big hit? It's getting a sequel and spinoffs

You mean the movie where everybody was praising the robots fightings and trashimg human scenes? Yeah...that's not a star vehicle. You don't see Charlie Hunnam headlining blockbusters after it either.
 
But studios just don't care about such small movies anymore. You either go big or you go home.
Also..Moon and Discrict9 were awesome, but they were obviously low budget flicks, not spectacle flick. GITS actually has pretty complex storiline. If you won't go crazy budget the IP would be better served on TV where it's ideas could actually be realized fully.

This is a good point. What makes GitS unique would be better served as a TV show, so there's no point in doing a movie except to go bigger with some spectacle.

Pacific Rim isn't a big hit? It's getting a sequel and spinoffs
It did ok, but not amazing. Regardless, it's not like the movie propelled Rinko's star status in to bankable actress territory.
 
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

It's my favorite sci-fi movie. I love it to death. They cannot do that. This is a heresy!

Especially if it's going to be closer to the anime than to the manga. They needed a woman with androgynous looks, not Scarlett! I'm freaking done with Holliwood!
 
You mean the movie where everybody was praising the robots fightings and trashimg human scenes? Yeah...that's not a star vehicle. You don't see Charlie Hunnam headlining blockbusters after it either.

It did well oversees where star power seems to be less of a thing but domestically it didn't do that great.

I think this is one of those situations were a studio sees an opportunity to turn a property with limited success into something financially viable. I imagine a sequel will have a smaller budget unfortunately.
 
I like this actress and she's hot.

I enjoyed Lucy for what it was.

I still think someone else would have been a better fit for the role of Lucy.

I think the same for this casting choice, actually even more so. Although I don't care too much about her not being Japanese (why would it be better with e.g. a Chinese actress btw? They still look different) as she can choose any artificial body anyway.

I'm still happy Hollywood is making a GitS life action movie at all and hope it won't be too bad.
 
You mean the movie where everybody was praising the robots fightings and trashimg human scenes? Yeah...that's not a star vehicle. You don't see Charlie Hunnam headlining blockbusters after it either.

I see that nothing pleases you.

So really what it comes down to is that you want asian actresses to jump over the hurdles that white actresses do despite the inert racism of Hollywood. I'm not sure why you're defending racism by means of money
 
I don't have high hopes for this movie after hearing the main lead and director. I seriously doubt the movie will have the same tone as the anime.

One of my favorite scenes from the anime:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK8V9jG7Wjg

The imagery of the bullet trail going up the tree of life and landing on homonis is amazing.

Fantasic Movie but the TV series Stand Alone complex was miles better. Deceptively deep story and characters. Hopefully Hollywood won't fuck it up.
 
So when a white person is cast in a different racial role, it's bullshit, but when a white role is cast by a black/asian/hispanic/whatever person, it's great.

It either goes both ways, or it doesn't.
 
What they should really be doing is taking the vibe from the original Matrix or Blade Runner, especially the color design. I think that'll go a long way towards nailing down the ambiance of Oshii's movies as well as marketing it toward the general public.
It either goes both ways, or it doesn't.

Spoiler alert: Systematic racism within the entertainment industry doesn't go both ways either.
 
I see that nothing pleases you.
I get your idealism and I think it's commendable, but it's kind of a waste when it doesn't result in anything substantial actually changing and even worse is agressive against steps that actually might improve the situation just because they're not as full on as you would like.

Rome wasn't built in a day.
 
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