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Seattle Fed. Judge grants temporary restraining order on Immigration Ban nationwide

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liquidtmd

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Agrees with everyone and as soon as trump returns to the US, start talking shit on twitter.

Pretty much

At G8: "The conference understood me and we had a great strong dialogue. They understand our concerns"

At home after G8: "Not sure they understood our concerns to be honest. Dialogue was poor and not strong"
 
like, if ur presidency begins with a make believe crisis of p much your own making and then your real fix to your make believe crisis is stopped by the courts and ur reply is wtf aren't we the courts? youre fucked

i'm starting to feel a bit more cozy knowing that the levers are doing their job and is proving why America is great :3
 

sazzy

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folks, please don't celebrate just yet. these 2 court rulings are good for people who are stuck at airports or were planning on travelling to the US immediately.

these are stop-gap measures until the courts are able to decide whether the EO is constitutional or not, in whole or in part.

edit- basically, the fight over this EO is far, far from over.
 

Steel

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folks, please don't celebrate just yet. these 2 court rulings are good for people who are stuck at airports or were planning on travelling to the US immediately.

these are stop-gap measures until the courts are able to decide whether the EO is constitutional or not, in whole or in part.

edit- basically, the fight over this EO is far, far from over.

There's little doubt that it'll make it to the supreme court. Hopefully Gingburg lives long enough and Kennedy doesn't retire or decide that he's A-OK with this executive order.
 

Gnome

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I want Trump to throw himself at this for as long as possible, getting nothing else done while doing so, and then fail in the end.
 
There's little doubt that it'll make it to the supreme court. Hopefully Gingburg lives long enough and Kennedy doesn't retire or decide that he's A-OK with this executive order.

Do we pretty much think its guarnteed all the conservative judges will vote for the EO? I know they are conservative, but the ban goes way beyond typical conservatism
 
What is scary is Trump is screaming on twitter that a judge is opening the door to a terrorist attack. Right now. Anytime now. A big one. Please. Still waiting. Use lane 5 at JFK. I suggest central station and a suitcase..

If something happened on US soil of the right scale he'd have the people with rifles in the government to swing an immediate imposition of emergency rules and no judge is going to stand up to it.

So actual terrorists aside ( who clearly would also be interested in this unique moment of weakness ) the only thing between now and suspension of opposition is our trust that nobody in government at a high level, with a contact in Iraq private security or something, decides they can swing one and #maga for team trump.
 

liquidtmd

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What is scary is Trump is screaming on twitter that a judge is opening the door to a terrorist attack. Right now. Anytime now. A big one. Please. Still waiting. Use lane 5 at JFK. I suggest central station and a suitcase..

If something happened on US soil of the right scale he'd have the people with rifles in the government to swing an immediate imposition of emergency rules and no judge is going to stand up to it.

So actual terrorists aside ( who clearly would also be interested in this unique moment of weakness ) the only thing between now and suspension of opposition is our trust that nobody in government at a high level, with a contact in Iraq private security or something, decides they can swing one and #maga for team trump.

This is a major concern - a broken clock is right twice a day. He keeps on like this for a few months, all it's gonna take is one incident and he's gonna politicize it like no issue has been in history.
 

fbutron

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What is scary is Trump is screaming on twitter that a judge is opening the door to a terrorist attack. Right now. Anytime now. A big one. Please. Still waiting. Use lane 5 at JFK. I suggest central station and a suitcase..

If something happened on US soil of the right scale he'd have the people with rifles in the government to swing an immediate imposition of emergency rules and no judge is going to stand up to it.

So actual terrorists aside ( who clearly would also be interested in this unique moment of weakness ) the only thing between now and suspension of opposition is our trust that nobody in government at a high level, with a contact in Iraq private security or something, decides they can swing one and #maga for team trump.
hmm I watch much TV... but what about an staged terrorist attack by the CIA or another dark entity just in the timing
 
Appeals court: request denied to restore ban

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FyreWulff

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What is scary is Trump is screaming on twitter that a judge is opening the door to a terrorist attack. Right now. Anytime now. A big one. Please. Still waiting. Use lane 5 at JFK. I suggest central station and a suitcase..

If something happened on US soil of the right scale he'd have the people with rifles in the government to swing an immediate imposition of emergency rules and no judge is going to stand up to it.

So actual terrorists aside ( who clearly would also be interested in this unique moment of weakness ) the only thing between now and suspension of opposition is our trust that nobody in government at a high level, with a contact in Iraq private security or something, decides they can swing one and #maga for team trump.

After they didn't even mention a white guy shot up a mosque, and have outright made up massacres, they're going to use the next inevitable attack (because you can't prevent everything) either way.

Ban in place? "We need to add more countries" as they push us farther into isolation.

Ban removed? "Herpaderp the judges let that happen" even if the attacker isn't from one of them, then they push for banning more countries.

From their view they can't lose.
 

Mr Swine

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After they didn't even mention a white guy shot up a mosque, and have outright made up massacres, they're going to use the next inevitable attack (because you can't prevent everything) either way.

Ban in place? "We need to add more countries" as they push us farther into isolation.

Ban removed? "Herpaderp the judges let that happen" even if the attacker isn't from one of them, then they push for banning more countries.

From their view they can't lose.

If it's a white Christian that does a terror attack then the guy has a mental illness and probably will be pardoned by Trump
 

Joel Was Right

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If the reason the EO was dismissed was because it speculating upon the threat posed by these seven countries, then there is a good chance the order will be overturned if the White House is able to present data.
 

Tovarisc

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If the reason the EO was dismissed was because it speculating upon the threat posed by these seven countries, then there is a good chance the order will be overturned if the White House is able to present data.

Hopefully judge(s) force them to actually show the data and not let administration slip by with your usual "We have reliable data, we know those specific countries are serious risk to our national security. We just can't tell you anything or show you anything because national security, you understand right?" 'winkwink'
 

Tovarisc

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Wait a sec are those Trump tweets for real? Or is it a parody account.

It's his personal account that he uses daily. I expect to get salvo of tweets in next ~3h, usually window for when he tweets.

Edit: You should read some of his stuff from the past, greatest stuff
 
This is straight up star wars prequel trilogy storyline which was straight up almost world war ii storyline... It really does seem quite scary what could happen if an attack does happen in the next few weeks. Hopefully the courts continue to be able to hold their power and make the right decisions.
 
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