Having moved here from a 95% white state, I find this not true at all. There is plenty of diversity in Seattle.
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Having moved here from a 95% white state, I find this not true at all. There is plenty of diversity in Seattle.
You'll find people who believe in the Seattle Freeze and others who find it overstated. I think most will agree that the people here tend to keep to themselves and aren't especially open. This definitely isn't a city where people will chat with each other when passing on the sidewalk.
I suppose it depends on the neighborhood. Walk around in Ballard, Greenlake, Magnolia, Ravenna, Wallingford...
It's pretty white but you can be our black friend!
But seriously Freeze is bullshit, you could find that in any city thanks to confirmation bias.
Not very diverse and there's still a lot of defacto segregation and economic disparity but it's getting better.
All in all I'd say it's an absolutely amazing place to live if you can just remember that May-September is coming.
I also love Austin except for humidity and roaches.
Dreams-Visions
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I'm in your boat for different reasons, but I find that both cities are the shit.
I've had nothing but good experiences as a black man who's spent time in Seattle and I've heard nothing but good things about Austin. You can't lose either way if you're a social person. As long as you don't go in thinking you're the center of the universe and people will seek to orbit you just because you draw breath, you'll be fine anywhere in America, tbqh. Just like in College, find groups doing things that interest you and your network will expand naturally.
That said, if being around black faces is important to you, expect Austin to provide you the better experience and better set of social outlets and options that are likely to appeal to you. That's just a fact.
My strong recommendation to you: spend at least a week in both cities. I assume you have some connections in both cities/areas? If so, use them. The shit is important and relocating shouldn't be a guessing game partially hinging on GAF suggestions and thoughts. Fuck that, this is your life and it's a significant commitment for a bunch of reasons. Experience both and make a decision you know from first-hand experience was the best option for you. And since you're open to locations, also consider:
- Portland
- Boulder
- Denver
- Charlotte
Thanks for the advice guys. I'll will be going on a trip for one of those places for a weekend with my gf. So I'll see what the feel is, I do think the chill calm nature of Seattle with dealt with me, while as the energizing and outdoor activists of Austin will too. This is a hard choice
Red The Hunter
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I'd say yes and no, while there are people that cliquey as hell. I've also met plenty of friendly folk, it's more of putting yourself out there and engaging with people. You'd be surprised how friendly people can be with striking up some small talk and seeing that it was all in your head.
Depends on what you mean by legit, I guess. There are flakey people everywhere, but not everyone is like that.
Seattle has a metric shitton of outdoor stuff too, it's just that the weather isn't always suited for it
We do have skiing/snowboarding close by if you into that sort of thing though!
distantmantra
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Born and raised in King County PNWer and now live in Seattle. Super friendly to people. HOWEVER! I've got a solid group of friends and a wife and kid. I don't really have time to do stuff with all of them, so making new friends isn't on my radar.
WesternHeretic
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I'm like the nicest person ever! I don't know... I'm from here born and raise can't say I ever felt like I gave anyone the cold shoulder just because they aren't.
distantmantra
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Yeah, I'm willing to talk to anyone, especially when I'm out in my yard working. It's just hard giving new people my time when I don't have enough time for my existing friends and family.
But if you like craft beer, you've got a slight in.
WesternHeretic
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Was it a small town? Because when I visit Eastern Washington the atmosphere out there is completely different than the city. Maybe it's just a small town vs city thing.
distantmantra
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My wife is from Omaha, people are super friendly out there. It's way different than us passive aggressive PNWers.
She's been here since 1999, so she's become one of us.
She's been here since 1999, so she's become one of us.
FWIW I never felt it either.
I generally find Seattle people (and PNW om general) to be nice and welcoming.
I lived in quite a few places around the world and I would say that I've found it easier than average to make friends and meet people in Seattle, though being that I'm a sample of one I could just have been lucky.
The Kirkland movie theater is closing. Today's its last full day of showing pictures and tomorrow it's having a special screening of The Last Picture Show.
It's a nice, really weird, theater. The seats, for some reason, all slope upward.
I regret not seeing more movies there.
http://www.kirklandmovies.com/
It's a nice, really weird, theater. The seats, for some reason, all slope upward.
I regret not seeing more movies there.
http://www.kirklandmovies.com/
So Long, and thanks for all the Dicks.
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Dick-s-Drive-In-founder-Dick-Spady-dies-at-92-6753506.php
Founder of Seattle's most famous burger joint passed away at 92. Dude did jack shit with his life, except be a war hero, launch several successful businesses, pay his fast food workers a living wage with benefits, put lots of them through college, sell cheap delicious burgers to drunks, become a city institution, live in a Houseboat like Tom Hanks and raise millions of dollars for charity.
And provide the single best pun for Seattle residents for decades.
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Dick-s-Drive-In-founder-Dick-Spady-dies-at-92-6753506.php
Founder of Seattle's most famous burger joint passed away at 92. Dude did jack shit with his life, except be a war hero, launch several successful businesses, pay his fast food workers a living wage with benefits, put lots of them through college, sell cheap delicious burgers to drunks, become a city institution, live in a Houseboat like Tom Hanks and raise millions of dollars for charity.
And provide the single best pun for Seattle residents for decades.
I warn people from out of town that Dicks isn't like some In N Out/Shake Shack cult thing. It's a value-driven old-school, damp, greasy burger made with love. The fries are ace. the shakes are good, but when you're drunk, the entire thing is elevated into a Thomas Keller fugue of culinary wonder.
I will say though that a Dick's Deluxe has like, an idealized flavor profile and texture that's like a McDonalds cheeseburger and a big Mac had a high quality baby.
I will say though that a Dick's Deluxe has like, an idealized flavor profile and texture that's like a McDonalds cheeseburger and a big Mac had a high quality baby.
RIP
He really did amazing things for his employees that are basically unheard of for hourly fast-food work. I hope that tradition continues.
There really is something magic about the Deluxe. I can't imagine ordering anything else. I'll usually skip fries and shake and just get 2 Deluxes.
distantmantra
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I think it's a family run operation.
The milkshakes are pretty meh. I feel the same about the fries, but some people seem to really like them (I like crunchy fries). Dick's is really all about the burgers.
If you want an orgasmic burger-joint milkshake, drive south until you find a Burgerville. Get the Cherry Chocolate shake.
distantmantra
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I don't like the fries at Dick's, but a chocolate shake and a Dick's Deluxe is awesome.
Anyone been to Cali-Burger on The Ave yet? It's pretty much a bootleg In and Out.
Anyone been to Cali-Burger on The Ave yet? It's pretty much a bootleg In and Out.
i agree. and i eat them sober all the time. had one yesterday in fact
Top-Dick-Tip:
leftover Dick's fries warmed for twenty minutes at 375 degrees in an oven become crispy and delicious.
the regular cheeseburgers are completely edible
luckyboyceo
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If we're talking Dick's my go-to order is 3 cheeseburgers, some fries, and a vanilla milkshake. Comes out to $10.42 if I remember correctly.
Ditto on the conversation bit.
There is no such thing as too affectionate as long as everyone is OK with it.
WesternHeretic
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That's my order too.
Holy shit dudes, be careful out there.
http://www.dietfacts.com/html/nutrition-facts/dicks-drive-in-deluxe-burger-26800.htm
http://www.dietfacts.com/html/nutrition-facts/dicks-drive-in-deluxe-burger-26800.htm
Less than a Big Mac.
My go-to is two cheese, fries, and a chocolate shake. $7-something.
Pretty sure healthiness is the last thing on anyone's mind if they're eating at Dick's. For me it's usually "holy shit this booze is making me starve"
Pretty sure healthiness is the last thing on anyone's mind if they're eating at Dick's. For me it's usually "holy shit this booze is making me starve"
luckyboyceo
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27g of protein though. I'll take three.
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http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...april-walkers-bikes-will-get-to-try-it-first/
Earlier than I thought it would open. Anyone going to go to the grand opening stuff? The pedestrian path won't be fully ready until 2017 but they're closing the bridge for it temporarily for the opening ceremony.
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...april-walkers-bikes-will-get-to-try-it-first/
Earlier than I thought it would open. Anyone going to go to the grand opening stuff? The pedestrian path won't be fully ready until 2017 but they're closing the bridge for it temporarily for the opening ceremony.
The bike ride sounds interesting, and I might do that. Travelling on 520 and the downtown Express lanes in a blob of bicycles should be surreal.
Steelyuhas
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Feels like the bridge has been under construction for a thousand years, nice to see it's finally close to done.
That's how I feel about light rail.
platypotamus
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Excited to bike to work across that bridge when the weather is nice enough
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