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Sega Dreamcast - Appreciation and Emulation Thread
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ur 10 years late
I remember how cool all the rumors and development was leading up to the launch of the system. It's sad how the company got its act together but in the end it was too late.
Best bet are mom and pop shops that sell classic games or Amazon.
damn
im sure we got a few in LA.
i been a couple before.
LA-gaf, any recs?
BlowoverKing
Banned
Was able to snag a good condition Dreamcast yesterday with Grandia 2 (in original case w/ soundtrack) and Toy Commander for ~$50. Is that a good deal? Also i'm on the look out for some good games to buy for it and would like to know some good platformer, racing, and rpg's the system has.
I already plan on finding Skies of Arcadia, Sonic Adventure 1/2, and Crazy Taxi.
I already plan on finding Skies of Arcadia, Sonic Adventure 1/2, and Crazy Taxi.
Well its not a bad track
I guess you just dont want google ninja silencing your video or something?Oh man, that's awesome news!
Yep, rocking the ebay knock off here, it throws some weird ghosting on my monitor, it drives me up the wall so i'll be pre-ordering too!
soxinthebox
Member
Where should we be checking to buy one?
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Best place is probably the dude's website: http://www.beharbros.com/
Ignore the fact that it sounds like some sort of middle eastern porn site.
bronk
Banned
Check out Game Dude in LA
I recently got a Dreamcast (it actually showed up today) and I have it all hooked up and what not, but I decided to put Shenmue in there and it's not reading any of the game discs (it is reading the Passport disc however and CDs I've tested the console with). Could the laser not be reading game discs or is it just the fact that the game discs are too scratched up?
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Sounds like the game discs. The Passport Disc is a GD-ROM, so I'm pretty sure if your system can read that, it should be able to handle anything else, too.
In any case though, Cheddahz, how on earth did have you never owned a Dreamcast? There's so much good shit for you to play on that thing, and fortunately, it's still relatively inexpensive for most stuff.
IrishNinja
Member
^ehh the capcom stuff has been shooting up though sadly, few others but yeah its way cheaper than say saturn
and yeah cheddarz how bad are those discs? have you cleaned up them up any? in my experience one of the DC's few flaws is that it's quite picky about scratched discs vs other systems of the time, so yeah it could totally be that...chac is right if you can boot the passport it shouldnt be the laser, i wanna say. any other games you can try?
and yeah cheddarz how bad are those discs? have you cleaned up them up any? in my experience one of the DC's few flaws is that it's quite picky about scratched discs vs other systems of the time, so yeah it could totally be that...chac is right if you can boot the passport it shouldnt be the laser, i wanna say. any other games you can try?
Honestly, I don't know how (and it's weird that we didn't have a Dreamcast in my house whenever it came out, since we had a Saturn). Oh well, I guess I'll make up for the fifteen or so years I've missed of playing one
There were a few scratches on the discs (didn't look like anything major), so I might just try cleaning them before I issue a return (any good ways on how to clean a disc, it's been a while since I've had to clean one) and sadly, I can't find my copy of Sonic Adventure right now and Power Stone hasn't shown up yet, so don't have anything else to test out
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
New version of the Hanzo will be available the first week of February, and you can preorder now from the dude's site.
Guess that was a pretty quick update.
Guess that was a pretty quick update.
soxinthebox
Member
Ordered one but God damn the AUD to USD is baaaaad at the moment. $80+ for a cable ;(
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Not just a cable; a box...!
Yeah. It is what it is. Frankly, I'm willing to pay whatever to max out how good my Dreamcast looks/sounds.
Friend of Sonic
Member
Obligatory "I love my Toro, so consider buying a VGA adapter from Beharius" post.
Also, Stone Age Gamer apparently has USB adapter boards on the way from Mnemo. Can't wait to place an order.
Also, Stone Age Gamer apparently has USB adapter boards on the way from Mnemo. Can't wait to place an order.
Reminds me I need to order up a toro finally, what changes did he make to the hanzo? Might also pick up a usb board too
Friend of Sonic
Member
I couldn't find out what was changed-- I'm kind of curious too if anyone knows. Maybe just build quality?
sixteen-bit
Member
Tennis 2K2
Also known as Virtua Tennis 2 or Power Smash 2 depending on the territory
Barkley's Justice
Member
soxinthebox
Member
Gunstarheroes
Member
I still need Dynamite Cop, Power Stone 2, and Zombie Revenge (yes I like Zombie Revenge).
I wonder if someone would trade my Space Channel 5 for Dynamite Cop...
Seven Force
Banned
Been on a Street Fighter binge since V's announcement and ended up buying this at a place near me. I have the PS2 Anniversary Collection, but a) It's scratched and doesn't play correctly and b) I can't be arsed to hook the PS2 back up anyway despite the PS2 controller being a better option for 3S than a DC controller (Are Saturn controller adapters for DC a thing? I might have to look into that if so.)
Didn't know until looking through the thread that the DC version of 3S has a (hidden) option to play in it's original resolution w/ scanlines, either. It looks pretty nice, even through S-Video.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Original rez mode? Daaaamn, I didn't know about that.
So does that make the DC version the best version of 3s, or is it still the XBLA version?
sixteen-bit
Member
Yeah look for the total control 3 if you want to use a saturn controller. Even supports the twinstick.
On the technical level, the PS2 and Xbox versions are more desirable than the DC version tho. Apparently DC ver has input lag and is based on the B version of the arcade which most fans didn't like as much.
KDash31987
Member
Yeah, just hold Start and Y after turning it on until the Capcom logo pops up. It'll save to the memory card after that. Looks way better on a CRT TV than the standard 480i (which also has filters, I think).
Holding Start and X instead will switch back to the default 480 output.
Seven Force
Banned
Dunno. IIRC, the DC version has some niggling inconsistencies in regards to timing for parries, and some combos that worked in the original arcade version flat out don't work in the DC version. (Though if you're playing casually, none of the above is really much of an issue) The PS2/Xbox ports along with Online Edition are the better ports, most likely.
But I wanted a working physical version to play, and the place I got it from had this, but not Anniversary Collection for PS2/Xbox.
Nice. Definitely going to look into investing in one, assuming they aren't stupid expensive.
I read that there were three filters:
- 240p w/scanlines (Start + L on boot until Capcom logo)
- 240p w/ scanlines, anti-flicker & sprite filter (Start + Y on boot until Capcom logo)
- 480i no scanlines, w/ anti-flicker & sprite filter (Default mode for the game; Otherwise Start + L on boot until Capcom logo)
The top option is the one I've been using.
Seven Force
Banned
Edit: dp
KDash31987
Member
Ah, I see. I did it like a year or two ago, so I just looked it up quickly on GameFAQs. I don't remember which I used.
I can't really check which I used now, since my wonderful CRT TV stopped working three hours ago.
I can't really check which I used now, since my wonderful CRT TV stopped working three hours ago.
Ah, I see. I did it like a year or two ago, so I just looked it up quickly on GameFAQs. I don't remember which I used.
I can't really check which I used now, since my wonderful CRT TV stopped working three hours ago.
Damn...my condolences.
Diablohead
Member
Is Power Stone (1) known to be problematic with disc errors?or is my beautiful launch DC about to die on me?
I just bought it new and sealed but can't get it to start, I hear the drive work/spin but after a little while I'm back at the home meny. I'm starting to get worried
The only games I have ever had bootup issues with are the SA2 trial disc which came with PSO and the odd failed to read disc error out of nowhere which fixes itself.
Last year I took my DC apart, cleaned everything I could following a guide and made sure the lid closed switch was working correctly, since then my DC has booted everything fine... apart from the SA2 trial disc.
Something about that GD rom just doesn't like to boot but it's a demo disc and most likely printed a different way.
Seven Force
Banned
Is Power Stone (1) known to be problematic with disc errors?or is my beautiful launch DC about to die on me?
I just bought it new and sealed but can't get it to start, I hear the drive work/spin but after a little while I'm back at the home meny. I'm starting to get worried
The laser probably needs recalibration. My Sonic Adventure 2 disc recently stopped working as well, I've just been too lazy to open it up to recalibrate it myself.
I remember that a few batches of DC launch titles actually did have issues booting up, even at launch, but I don't think Power Stone was one of the games affected (IIRC, Sonic Adventure, Hydro Thunder and Ready 2 Rumble were the affected titles)
Fess
Member
Sigh :/ I hoped it was the game that was the problem. I looked at a calibration guide, seems a bit risky but it's cheaper than buying a new console, which might already have the same problem or might get it sooner or later. It's strange though, I've never had any problem with the console until now. But I really really want to play Power Stone, it's one of my all time favorites, beat it 100% back in the days, VMU games and all. Awesome game! (Nintendo should rip that idea btw, have smaller unlockable games played on the Gamepad to unlock more stuff)
Seven Force
Banned
It sucks, but it's the unfortunate reality of owning a Dreamcast. The laser is eventually going to start wearing down. 16 years without issue (especially for a launch model!) is pretty damned good though, I'll say. There are some great guides on Youtube on how to properly open it up and recalibrate the laser, though. I was even able to do it a couple of years back, and I have little experience messing with consoles on that level.
And yeah, Power Stone is amazing. My only issue is the lack of a 4-player mode. 2 has one, but at the expense of making just about everything else unnecessarily hectic. It's a shame Capcom hasn't done anything with the series outside of the PSP ports, it'd make for an amazing online game.
Fess
Member
Thanks, I'll look into those guides some more.
I actually like Power Stone 1 more than 2 for that reason, I think 2 is far too chaotic and random, it's like they tried to make their own Smash Bros.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
So, I was curious about 2 import games: Super Puzzle Fighter II X and Guilty Gear X.
Is there any reason to buy the Dreamcast versions of these games? I can't remember if Puzzle Fighter on Dreamcast was the best version of the game, or what the differences were from the Saturn release.
With Guilty Gear... I've always loved the series, but don't remember if GGX was different enough from XX to justify owning both.
Is there any reason to buy the Dreamcast versions of these games? I can't remember if Puzzle Fighter on Dreamcast was the best version of the game, or what the differences were from the Saturn release.
With Guilty Gear... I've always loved the series, but don't remember if GGX was different enough from XX to justify owning both.
Seven Force
Banned
With regards to Guilty Gear X, there's not much of a reason to get it with GGXX readily available most other places, though the Dreamcast version does have the novelty of using the MIDI based arcade soundtrack instead of the live instrument soundtrack that the PS2 port and every other subsequent update of the game use.
If you can get it cheap, go for it. The game looks and plays great to this day anyway.
Edit: I believe the DC version came with a mini soundtrack CD, too.
If you can get it cheap, go for it. The game looks and plays great to this day anyway.
Edit: I believe the DC version came with a mini soundtrack CD, too.
I've jumped into the Dreamcast camp! I just ordered a Dreamcast off eBay: it's a Made in Japan model with a 0 in the circle, which I've heard are the most reliable models. Comes with two OEM controllers and an OEM VMU, plus Baseball 2K1.
My TV doesn't have VGA in, but I have a Framemeister, so is the Toro box the best bet? It looks like it allows 480p mode over Euro Scart, which is what I use in my setup.
Also anything I need to know as someone who's never owned a Dreamcast? I seem to recall reading something once about not plugging in/unplugging controllers while the console's on.
My TV doesn't have VGA in, but I have a Framemeister, so is the Toro box the best bet? It looks like it allows 480p mode over Euro Scart, which is what I use in my setup.
Also anything I need to know as someone who's never owned a Dreamcast? I seem to recall reading something once about not plugging in/unplugging controllers while the console's on.
Thats correct, it fizzes out a resistor on the controller port board, it's fixable but to save the hassle, so yes, it's best not to.
sixteen-bit
Member
I was told never to hotswap as well.
Someone on eBay is auctioning off repro's of canceled Dreamcast games. Font size is off on the spines, but they look pretty good.
I've been wondering where these all came from. The discs are probably cdr's, but the packaging is harder to figure out. I searched and around and found most of the front and back art sourced in these images, but nothing for disc art or a potential manual. I've seen these exact repros elsewhere over the last few years, leading me to believe someone, at some point, made a ton and then sold them all off. Did that ever happen? Or are people just using high quality front/back prints of available artwork?
I've been wondering where these all came from. The discs are probably cdr's, but the packaging is harder to figure out. I searched and around and found most of the front and back art sourced in these images, but nothing for disc art or a potential manual. I've seen these exact repros elsewhere over the last few years, leading me to believe someone, at some point, made a ton and then sold them all off. Did that ever happen? Or are people just using high quality front/back prints of available artwork?