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[Peltz]

How does the audio output of SNES hardware perform? I've been told it's more accurate but it's not something I've looked into.

Personally I wouldn't really classify the DAC/audio signals from any of the Genesis models as great. The inherent distortions in the sound chip is more than enough for me, and that is the one kind of non-linearity I do appreciate since it fundamentally alters the timbre of the sounds in a cool way.

My SNES sounds slightly muddy in comparison to my crystal clear Genesis. SNES also doesn't sound as loud as Genesis with the console's volume slider up all the way.

SNES sound output is still fantastic though. Just not quite as crisp. In comparison, Genesis is so clean that it sounds almost digital.

 

[sixteen-bit]

I agree SNES audio sounds kinda muffled in comparison. Any audio mods available?

 

[televator]

The SNES can be digital out moded. That's a plus but it doesn't radically alter the audio.

 

[IrishNinja]

The SNES can be digital out moded. That's a plus but it doesn't radically alter the audio.

see if that's the case, i basically assume mods like that are either proof-of-concept or for casual AV fans who just assume it'll sound better. then again, if there was a mod to improve sound on classic systems, i kinda assume it'd be pretty well-known/popular

 

[televator]

see if that's the case, i basically assume mods like that are either proof-of-concept or for casual AV fans who just assume it'll sound better. then again, if there was a mod to improve sound on classic systems, i kinda assume it'd be pretty well-known/popular

Well a digital out pretty much gets rid of a lot of static noise. Also, it can have drastic results in audio resolution. http://youtu.be/HlYeA_aqYAA In the SNES' case it does go a significant way is sharpening the sound and getting rid of some of the softness. However, I still think the Genny has more of a hard edge in high sounds and a low bass punch despite the clearly noisy signal. It makes it aesthetically more interesting for me to listen to those wide contrasting sounds in good Genny music. Digital or not the SNES sounds more narrow as far as volume from individual sounds.

Here's a Dreamcast example for more impact: http://youtu.be/9Yn2sUN_C1E

It's definitely not a casual mod and it definitely does sound better. In fact the casual thing to do is to ignore audio quality... Most casual music listeners are A OK with scrubby metallic sounding YouTube rips for music. The reason it's not a wide spread mod is cause people don't really care. Audio is secondary. Even the Genesis Mega Amp and CCA mods come second to over clocks and region switches despite the somewhat stronger emphasis on audio from the community. And of course RGB takes center stage.

The way I see it, a digital signal for either video or audio would be the most ideal thing to have out of any console. However there do seem to be limitations in some consoles that keep that from being doable such as what I understand to be the Genny's case.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Replaying RKA and goddamn this game doesn't get enough love. It's incredible.

 

[Timu]

Replaying RKA and goddamn this game doesn't get enough love. It's incredible.

Is it really hard on the hardest setting?

Been ages since I played it back in the 90s.

 

[IrishNinja]

It's definitely not a casual mod and it definitely does sound better. In fact the casual thing to do is to ignore audio quality... Most casual music listeners are A OK with scrubby metallic sounding YouTube rips for music. The reason it's not a wide spread mod is cause people don't really care. Audio is secondary. Even the Genesis Mega Amp and CCA mods come second to over clocks and region switches despite the somewhat stronger emphasis on audio from the community

well, you kinda answered that, didn't you? the genesis mega amp (assuming you have proper model 1 sound) by most accounts/inks ive seen, as you said, didn't drastically change the sound provided. if you absolutely must have the very best of everything then i guess, but what i mean by casual (i admittedly misused that word) is the AV guys i know that're hardcore about that kinda thing just want what they read is best & don't really play so much as mess with hardware - i.e., get an RGB modded SNES mini cause you read it's the best possible picture, so you might not notice the troubles it has some with games/devices/etc as a trade off.

if a mod did something truly outstanding audio-wise - like say, magically make an NES somehow produce stereo sound, etc - again i tend to think it'd be more popular. as it stands, even on sega-16 most of the interest i saw in CCA/mega am was model 2's and such, if i'm not mistaken. but i definitely agree that audio typically comes behind video for most.

 

[BobbyRobby]

Got a decent deal on this lot, paid $40 shipped

Headdy and Ranger X have rental stickers on the carts. gonna try to finesse them off with some goo gone.

 

[televator]

well, you kinda answered that, didn't you? the genesis mega amp (assuming you have proper model 1 sound) by most accounts/inks ive seen, as you said, didn't drastically change the sound provided. if you absolutely must have the very best of everything then i guess, but what i mean by casual (i admittedly misused that word) is the AV guys i know that're hardcore about that kinda thing just want what they read is best & don't really play so much as mess with hardware - i.e., get an RGB modded SNES mini cause you read it's the best possible picture, so you might not notice the troubles it has some with games/devices/etc as a trade off.

if a mod did something truly outstanding audio-wise - like say, magically make an NES somehow produce stereo sound, etc - again i tend to think it'd be more popular. as it stands, even on sega-16 most of the interest i saw in CCA/mega am was model 2's and such, if i'm not mistaken. but i definitely agree that audio typically comes behind video for most.

Oh yeah, for sure. There are people like that. They think a mod or connection method is some sort of magic bullet and it's the best thing ever and nothing else from another system can touch it in any sense or there's no way it can get better. The reality is that it's relative or there's more to it when comparing different hardware. Looking at Adam Koralik and his BEST POSSIBLE PICTURE BETTER THAN SCART vids... Lol

I do stand by what I said about it not radically altering the systems audio in the sense that it doesn't mean it will necessarily sound better that what it was capable of. It just makes it sound the best it can.

 

[IrishNinja]

fair, and i shouldn't dismiss such things, even when boozin

aside: i warned you guise

i fuckin' warned you

 

[baphomet]

Got a decent deal on this lot, paid $40 shipped



Headdy and Ranger X have rental stickers on the carts. gonna try to finesse them off with some goo gone.

Seems like Headdy is the Genesis version of Mega man X. Always covered with shit, and missing parts of the sticker and such.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Is it really hard on the hardest setting?

Been ages since I played it back in the 90s.

I dunno lol I'm playing on Normal.

If you can 1CC the game on Normal it should be quite doable, just have to get the boss patterns down pat (you die in 1 hit on Hard, right?).

 

[ZealousD]

aside: i warned you guise

i fuckin' warned you

I know the system is s-video modded with an attached CD that had some work on it, but that seems pretty expen...

...the fuck?

 

[Khaz]

I have yet to do a Mega Amp mod on my Megadrive as it would render the RCA out on the Mega CD useless. I really want to do it though.

 

[lazygecko]

I agree SNES audio sounds kinda muffled in comparison. Any audio mods available?

It varies a lot on a game to game basis since this is all dependant on what the sample rates of the sounds are as well. You're probably not going to get much more clarity out of a game like Super Metroid through modding due to the nature of the sounds themselves.

 

[Timu]

(you die in 1 hit on Hard, right?).

I sure hope not!!!=O

 

[Lettuce]

Is this a clone system...

supposed to be a JPN Megadrive 2 console??

 

[Teknoman]

I know the system is s-video modded with an attached CD that had some work on it, but that seems pretty expen...

...the fuck?

So is that literally the first genesis of the line heh?

 

[Bancho]

Is this a clone system...

supposed to be a JPN Megadrive 2 console??

Sure thats one of those chinese/russian Clone systems. Saw loads on Aliexpress

 

[lazygecko]

Here are examples of Flying Battery music played through the outputs of different hardware revisions and emulation:

https://soundcloud.com/comradeoj/flying-battery-comparison

The order of appearance is:

VA6 model 1
model 3 VA1
fusion emulator
nomad
Model 2 VA2.3
VA7 (early model 2s sound the same)
Mega Amp modded VA2.3 model 2.

 

[Bancho]

I started Alien Soldier tonight. Is it me or is this game hard? I'm playing it on SuperHard difficulty and i can get to stage 4.

The graphics are great and you can tell it has that treasure quality. The soundtrack and effects are also some of the best on the Mega Drive. I love the title screen music.

The controls are a bit meh though. I hate the weapon selection, Having to confirm which weapon you have selected by pressing 'A' is a pain, i keep forgetting to press 'A' and getting caught out. I wish they could of included a layout for the 6 button controller. I also didn't realize the reflect bullets move created health diamonds. Once i realized that and you could re-max your health collecting these to do the super dash changed things.

I'm really enjoying it though and am going to make it my mission to finish it.

 

[Sixfortyfive]

IMO, you shouldn't play Alien Soldier on Hard until you've 1cc'd it on Easy.

 

[Fox Mulder]

Headdy and Ranger X have rental stickers on the carts. gonna try to finesse them off with some goo gone.

I just leave those stickers on. I like the bit of history. I got stuff from all kinds of states and mom and pop video stores.

 

[blast processed]

I just leave those stickers on. I like the bit of history. I got stuff from all kinds of states and mom and pop video stores.

That Mom & Pop nostalgia feel last about as long as it takes to get the goo gone and get it off. Stickers drive me nuts, & even worst when you tubers like CGR don't remove them before doing a retro review.

 

[A Black Falcon]

Interesting. I hadn't heard that. I'm using the official disc (the reprint from this latest round). I'll try the CD-R route.

Thanks!

I didn't know they reprinted the disc, but I'd think they'd have fixed the issues if they did that... but considering that this run seems to have new problems with the carts, maybe not.

 

[Mzo]

That Mom & Pop nostalgia feel last about as long as it takes to get the goo gone and get it off. Stickers drive me nuts, & even worst when you tubers like CGR don't remove them before doing a retro review.

That makes me crazy, too. Also cracked PS1 game cases, just replace that shit please! You can have cracked cases, whatever, but if you're making a VIDEO care a little!

 

[Shadow Hog]

My copy of Rolo to the Rescue has had a Blockbuster rental sticker on it ever since I got it as a birthday present in the early '90s, and I don't think I can bring myself to take it off due to nostalgia.

I'd be wary of buying more games with such stickers on them, I'll grant you, but there's my exception.

 

[Mercutio]

My copy of Rolo to the Rescue has had a Blockbuster rental sticker on it ever since I got it as a birthday present in the early '90s, and I don't think I can bring myself to take it off due to nostalgia.

I'd be wary of buying more games with such stickers on them, I'll grant you, but there's my exception.

I've got a copy of Ghouls and Ghosts with like, multiple rental stickers on it. They drive me nuts, but I got the game for such a good price.

Does anyone reprint labels for Genesis games? I'm really considering it on this one.

 

[Shadow Hog]

I mean, the rental sticker is barely touching the label; it's mostly on the back of the cart, coming around one of the sides and maybe touching the label from there.

 

[Noahd41]

I swapped doubles with a friend today and got a cart only copy of The Punisher! I gave him Streets of Rage CIB, Ecco the Dolphin on Sega CD CIB and a loose copy of Doom Troopers. I'm pretty excited. The Punisher is actually pretty solid, not amazing but a 7.5/10 for sure as far as beat 'em ups go. It's probably the rarest loose game I own on the system now. I've got to do a fully tall since I'm definitely well over 100 titles now.

 

[Huggers]

If I were to buy a Japanese Mega Drive. Would it play my Pal games and if so at what speed? Have a chance to get one really cheap

 

[Sixfortyfive]

If I were to buy a Japanese Mega Drive. Would it play my Pal games and if so at what speed? Have a chance to get one really cheap

Region locking varies on a per-game basis. It's more common on games published after 1992.

An NTSC system will play PAL games at the proper 60hz speed as long as said game has NOT been PAL-optimized. Again, this varies on a per-game basis.

 

[Peltz]

I know this has been asked before, so sorry for the repeat question... what's the best option for a NA Genesis owner to play Alien Soldier? Will the PAL version run at proper speed on a NA Genesis?

How about the Japanese version? Can it be played on a NA Genesis?

 

[sixteen-bit]

I know this has been asked before, so sorry for the repeat question... what's the best option for a NA Genesis owner to play Alien Soldier? Will the PAL version run at proper speed on a NA Genesis?

How about the Japanese version? Can it be played on a NA Genesis?

Alien Soldier is PAL optimized.

The JP version should run on a NA Genesis with a Game Genie or Action Replay

 

[blast processed]

Finally received my boxed copy of MUSHA that I have been after for quite sometime. Great condition and only paid slightly over $100. Of course USPS delivers it as I'm on the way out the door going to work.

 

[Peltz]

Alien Soldier is PAL optimized.

The JP version should run on a NA Genesis with a Game Genie or Action Replay

So basically, if a game is PAL optimized, I should avoid it? Does that also hold true for SNES games like Terranigma?

 

[KC-Slater]

A little off-topic, but I think this would be appreciated here.

 

[Teknoman]

Finally received my boxed copy of MUSHA that I have been after for quite sometime. Great condition and only paid slightly over $100. Of course USPS delivers it as I'm on the way out the door going to work.

I hate it when that happens, but did you at least get to take it with you/toss it inside?

I know this has been asked before, so sorry for the repeat question... what's the best option for a NA Genesis owner to play Alien Soldier? Will the PAL version run at proper speed on a NA Genesis?

How about the Japanese version? Can it be played on a NA Genesis?

Alien Soldier is PAL optimized.

The JP version should run on a NA Genesis with a Game Genie or Action Replay

Yup. Works perfectly fine, aside from having to put in the code each time, but its a small price to pay. On a side note, I was surprised I had to look up a action replay code to let me play Panzer Dragoon Saga with an Action Replay cart inserted. Wish the Genie would let you save codes. Does Action Replay Genesis let you?

 

[blast processed]

Regardless of condition, I always open the carts up and clean them as well as disinfecting the case. It's a time consuming ritual I perform that calms my OCD.

 

[televator]

Hey, you Mega Everdrive owners. Is there any known issues with the Mega ED and certain models of the Genesis?

I ordered one direct from Krikzz and It wouldn't boot to anything on 2 model 1 Gennys that I have. I sent it back (paid for shipping out of pocket), got back another, and all I'm getting is a blue screen... god damn it!

At this point I'm pretty peeved and I just want my money returned, but I wonder if maybe... just maybe both of my model 1s have issues with a Mega ED.

 

[Noahd41]

Finally received my boxed copy of MUSHA that I have been after for quite sometime. Great condition and only paid slightly over $100. Of course USPS delivers it as I'm on the way out the door going to work.

That is solid. I'd love to find a copy like that, you got a deal for sure!

 

[blast processed]

Manual not included but I didn't care. This is my first time playing it and it's fantastic. The music really gets you amped up. Only played for about an hour.

 

[Noahd41]

Manual not included but I didn't care. This is my first time playing it and it's fantastic. The music really gets you amped up. Only played for about an hour.

Nice. Having got Punisher off the list, I think Musha, Grindstormer and Crusader of Centy are the three most rare games I'm trying to find (at reasonable rates) on the Genesis.

Also, just going off some of the guides that are around these days... is Liberty or Death and Master of Monsters really that hard to find? I see multiple copies locally in the 5-25 dollar range loose

 

[HanzoHasashiVSBi-Han]

Streets of Rage 2 OST is god-tier.

This.

 

[eXistor]

I want to expand my classic PS collection, I already owned PSII and now III, but damn PSI and IV are getting damn expensive.

 

[Timu]

This.

Yep, easily one of the best soundtracks on the entire system.

 

[Peltz]

I want to expand my classic PS collection, I already owned PSII and now III, but damn PSI and IV are getting damn expensive.

That cover art is so North-American-90s-Genesis, it's not even funny.

I love that style. I'm getting hit with waves of nostalgia despite never even seeing this cover before.

 

[theSlacker]

I want to expand my classic PS collection, I already owned PSII and now III, but damn PSI and IV are getting damn expensive.

How much is PS1 going for these days? It's one of the few MS games that I actually want. I know I could probably just look this up.

 

[sixteen-bit]

like $50