SeventhSon
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This Interact controller is currently my favorite. Great d-pad, responsive face buttons, no hard convex X Y Z buttons, and rapid/auto fire for all six buttons.
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Sega Genesis/MegaDrive Appreciation Thread: Alien Storm > Golden Axe
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Like 600 bucks.
Six button is the way to go. It's unreal how much of a superior controller it is.
PumpkinSpice
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Thanks everyone. I'm pretty picky about dpads so I bought a JP 6-button controller.
I also thought about buying a SNES to Genesis adapter from Raphnet since I already have a bunch of great condition Super Famicom controllers but I figured I might as well go for the authentic experience.
I also thought about buying a SNES to Genesis adapter from Raphnet since I already have a bunch of great condition Super Famicom controllers but I figured I might as well go for the authentic experience.
The 6 button controller is both more comfortable (for me) and has a Saturn-Grade D-Pad. I think it's far superior to the original 3 button varieties, of all vintages.
This Interact controller is currently my favorite. Great d-pad, responsive face buttons, no hard convex X Y Z buttons, and rapid/auto fire for all six buttons.
What are some other gaffer's favorite 3rd party controllers? I absolutely adored this one as a kid:
The programmable function was pretty neat to play with and it had autofire!
I don't like it quite as much as the MK-1653 these days, but I think it's still a pretty good controller, even though it uses a SNES style layout.
Just get a game genie. And yes, unless you want to go the repro route, Alien Soldier, Trouble Shooter 2, Pulseman (might not be all that worth it, but looks cool), Verytex, Eliminate Down, and probably other games with better differences / possibly cheaper.
SeventhSon
Member
I haven't dug in too deep in Pier Solar yet, but I really liked the music and combat.
Is there a Pier Solar |OT|?
Is there a Pier Solar |OT|?
sixteen-bit
Member
Here's the old 2010 thread
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=417225
And the more recent one
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=902567
Hector Garfria
Member
The MK-1653 6 button controller are the best ones that are easily available. I like to buy the 3rd party 6 button controllers from performance(they usually gor for less than 5 bucks whenever I find them) and take the rubber contacts to put into the MK-1653. Buttons feel better.
Though there is one 3rd party controller that looks to be comparable to the official controllers, the Competition Pro Series III, but I can't for the life of me find one anywhere,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxfGR3RRIsI
Basically a 6 button controller with the original dogbone girth the original 3 button controller has. SEGA has a wireless 6 button controller that would have been GOAT if it was actually wired.
Though there is one 3rd party controller that looks to be comparable to the official controllers, the Competition Pro Series III, but I can't for the life of me find one anywhere,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxfGR3RRIsI
Basically a 6 button controller with the original dogbone girth the original 3 button controller has. SEGA has a wireless 6 button controller that would have been GOAT if it was actually wired.
Lord_Santa
Neo Member
The Mega Drive was the first gaming console I ever had. So it has a special place in my heart. I remember playing Sonic,The Ooze, Revenge of the Shinobi, X-Men and Streets of Rage with such glee. I was young back then, so I had a very active imagination, I recall one incident where I had a nightmare about one of the games I was playing (can't remember which) and got banned from playing for a week.
Those were the days
Those were the days
sixteen-bit
Member
Description says it's only for the cart and booklet, which I suppose acknowledges that the clamshell case it a reprint. This makes sense as the Genesis release is cardboard only.
I would request more pics (especially of the PCB) and a more detailed description if you're spending that kind of money though.
Piston Hyundai
Member
The cart has the modern ESRB rating icon (solid black KA instead of white with a black outline). Dead giveaway that it's a repro.
sixteen-bit
Member
I see. Definitely report it.
They told me they change it to "shipped" when they print the sticker. It doesn't means it has left their warehouse or even been put in a box.
I waited for mine for about a month, but I live in the same city.
It's still a good time to order one copy though, it's probably their last batch ever.
PumpkinSpice
Banned
That game looks really nice, but $70... maybe I'll just pick up the Wii U version.
blast processed
Member
Clamshell, game, mini poster, manual and stickers make it worth it.
SeventhSon
Member
The whole package is well worth the price; it's actually higher quality than original retail releases from twenty years ago. The manual is in full color.
Anyone who buys is advised to be careful about system compatibility, though. My VA6 Genesis couldn't run the game. As far as I know, that's the only model that truly cannot run it at all, and this advisement only applies to the print run.
sixteen-bit
Member
Yeah, I'm not too keen on it for that reason.
sixteen-bit
Member
I doubt it. I assume they'd need to reprogram the music entirely because the FM chips in the Genesis and the FM Module for Sega Mark III are different.
SeventhSon
Member
PumpkinSpice
Banned
My Genesis arrived today. It's a VA6 and I was expecting a VA3. Not sure I'm concerned enough to return it but it'll probably warrant negative feedback for the thing not being as described.
Am I crazy or does RF not actually look that bad? I must be crazy. My s-video / RCA jacks will get here sometime later this month so I'm still going to mod that in but I feel like RF on this looks better than the composite coming out of my SNES or PS1.
You could do it with the FM power base converter that db electronics makes but I think that would be kind of a waste.
Am I crazy or does RF not actually look that bad? I must be crazy. My s-video / RCA jacks will get here sometime later this month so I'm still going to mod that in but I feel like RF on this looks better than the composite coming out of my SNES or PS1.
You could do it with the FM power base converter that db electronics makes but I think that would be kind of a waste.
Ooh. Guess that'll be what I go for instead of the standard Power Base. That being said, does the North American version of the game even support it? Looking at the list it says:
"Phantasy Star (Jap ver only)".
Fox Mulder
Member
that's neat.
Welp. I just sent back my Mega EverDrive for a refund. It's a finicky piece of tech that I just couldn't get working for some reason. I don't know what was wrong. Either something I was doing, or my hardware wasn't playing nice with it, or it was just broken... I mean it's not rocket science and I tried it on 4 Genesis systems that swapped with 5 different power supplies. One of them was a model 2 and that made no difference.
Well at least I can hope to get most of my money back on it, but man... What a bust.
Well at least I can hope to get most of my money back on it, but man... What a bust.
D.Lo
Member
No you need to use a Master Everdrive and a patched rom.
For FM I went the whole hog and got the original. It's fantastic, makes Master System games sound like Mega Drive! Killer bass in some games.
Friend of Sonic
Member
Wow, that controller looks great but don't play with my heart. Is the d-pad actually good? I do need a Gen controller with turboThis Interact controller is currently my favorite. Great d-pad, responsive face buttons, no hard convex X Y Z buttons, and rapid/auto fire for all six buttons.
Im still surprised no one has just made a repro cart with the translated rom. At least then you could just roll with the original system no problem or the Power Base mini FM. At least Golvellius isnt like that heh.
D.Lo
Member
It's just too specific a market. The Master System FM board and Power Base Mini FM are niche products, you'd need a system with one of those or a Mark III with FM unit to be in the market for one. So a fraction of a fraction of a market.
I'll make one if you like, It will be an Everdrive with a single ROM in it. Easy enough to print a cart label. Heck, can even just use the original cart and box! It'll be $300 thanks
Or you mean a Power Base+Mark III board with custom ROM integrated into a Mega Drive cart shell? That would be prohibitively expensive, requiring a custom PCB.
sixteen-bit
Member
Top 10 Genesis game of all time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCTs-8aDf_E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCTs-8aDf_E
blast processed
Member
Sword of Vermilion getting some love.
what was the game in the beginning they showed but didn't talk about? Terminator?
The one on the left? Demolition man?
PumpkinSpice
Banned
Took apart my Genesis a bit more and did some tinkering. I got it running off a USB power supply. Basically just bypass the 7805s and supply 5V directly.
I did something similar with my SNES and I really like the result so I'll probably make this permanent tomorrow. I think I just need to desolder the 7805s, wire the 7805 in lines to the out lines and see if I can give 5V through the existing barrel jack. That would be the cleanest way to do this. If not I'll have to rewire a few other things to make the power switch work. Then I can just throw out the heat sink and run this thing with no heat and way lower power use.
The one risk is someone who's not me plugging a >5V jack into this at some point in the future, but I think that's pretty unlikely and I'll leave some sort of notation just in case.
Basically just bypass the 7805s and supply 5V directly.I did something similar with my SNES and I really like the result so I'll probably make this permanent tomorrow. I think I just need to desolder the 7805s, wire the 7805 in lines to the out lines and see if I can give 5V through the existing barrel jack. That would be the cleanest way to do this. If not I'll have to rewire a few other things to make the power switch work. Then I can just throw out the heat sink and run this thing with no heat and way lower power use.
The one risk is someone who's not me plugging a >5V jack into this at some point in the future, but I think that's pretty unlikely and I'll leave some sort of notation just in case.
It's just too specific a market. The Master System FM board and Power Base Mini FM are niche products, you'd need a system with one of those or a Mark III with FM unit to be in the market for one. So a fraction of a fraction of a market.
I'll make one if you like, It will be an Everdrive with a single ROM in it. Easy enough to print a cart label. Heck, can even just use the original cart and box! It'll be $300 thanks
Or you mean a Power Base+Mark III board with custom ROM integrated into a Mega Drive cart shell? That would be prohibitively expensive, requiring a custom PCB.
Or you could just convert the translated SMS rom (with PGM/FM switch) to a genesis rom and flash it on a blank genesis eeprom and call it a day (and it would cost a grand total of... 7$? if you have the flasher that is)
Also there's no risk involved, the new flashable eeproms are reflashable.
Took apart my Genesis a bit more and did some tinkering. I got it running off a USB power supply.
I did something similar with my SNES and I really like the result so I'll probably make this permanent tomorrow. I think I just need to desolder the 7805s, wire the 7805 in lines to the out lines and see if I can give 5V through the existing barrel jack. That would be the cleanest way to do this. If not I'll have to rewire a few other things to make the power switch work. Then I can just throw out the heat sink and run this thing with no heat and way lower power use.
The one risk is someone who's not me plugging a >5V jack into this at some point in the future, but I think that's pretty unlikely and I'll leave some sort of notation just in case.
That's super interesting. I've heard of modding more efficient power supplies into old consoles before but I wonder if it affects the ability to have other mods that require power like an over clock or anything with a discrete circuit.
PumpkinSpice
Banned
I think as long as those mods all operate on the 5V section of the console and don't draw more amps than my USB power supply can handle they would work just fine. Since the Genesis wallwart only puts out 1A (and a bunch of that is used for a space heater from the 7805s) and my Sony adapter puts out 1.5A I think that would be fine.
Another thing to note is that the quality of your adapter matters a lot here. I'll have to check if the same thing happens with my Genesis but on my SNES many USB AC adapters would cause horrible artifacts to appear on the video output, I think because they didn't put out a very stable 5Vs. When connected to a PC USB jack it was fine, and the only wall adapters I could find that would work perfectly were a proper Apple USB AC adapter (don't even try knockoffs, they could be super dangerous) and Sony's xperia USB AC adapter.
That's possible, I did it with the Japanese cartridge. But you can't just change the ROM chip on most 8bits games, if they're bigger than 512k they need an extra proprietary chip. If the extra chip is on the board, you're good, but most of the games had the extra chip integrated within the ROM chip. And you can't replace that with a normal eeprom, it just won't work.
Some cartridges are susceptible to some mod like this, however I would advise against it as they are already rare enough, and the pool will never grow back. There are plans to make new cartridges for this very purpose, that would allow homebrewers to make new physical releases without murdering old games. Or people to play new translations like the Phantasy Star one.
D.Lo
Member
You do know that would involve porting the game, including re-writing the music for a completely different FM chip, which would be an immense amount of work?
A Black Falcon
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Sega-16's latest article examines what's known of the history behind the 32XCD version of Surgical Strike. Read it, it's quite interesting: http://www.sega-16.com/2015/04/behind-the-design-surgical-strike-32xcd/
Gunstarheroes
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Phenomenal article. Very cool to see 100% confirmation of its existence.