Armoured Priest
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They ran out of time and money. I enjoyed both Xenogears and Xenosaga, but I always lol at people who accuse Xenosaga of barely being a game but rather an interactive movie...its like they forget about Xenogears' second disc.
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Sega Genesis/MegaDrive Appreciation Thread: Alien Storm > Golden Axe
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They ran out of time and money. I enjoyed both Xenogears and Xenosaga, but I always lol at people who accuse Xenosaga of barely being a game but rather an interactive movie...its like they forget about Xenogears' second disc.
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Lol. TBH I don't use save states because it's dishonest and if I can/can't no death it, I'll just stick with the best I can do. That's why I'll never attempt a Battletoads NES no death run, because it's impossible for me. I hardly even no death beat em ups, I mainly do platformers for that. =p I'm trying to work on Contra Hard Corps but it may not make it this year.
davidwhangchoi
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well, if any, no death run or not, finish target earth legit please put it on youtube and i'll watch it everyday =)
the most amazing feat i've ever seen was a no death run of SNK P.O.W. arcade.
From what I seen of Target Earth, I'll probably die a few times, lol.
I may be good at games, but I'm far from a god-like player, I'm only good at games I put a ton of focus on. Some games just take weeks for me, while others take months to even years.
I saw a no death run of that and couldn't believe it.
davidwhangchoi
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yeah, P.O.W. is brutal
edite: i'm watching one playthrough but he uses a secret all weapons bonus trick after the first board.
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Hmm...being that I can't get past the first board, that doesn't help. Lol
Really? It can't be that bad...can it? I tend to get past the 1st level of every game I played(yes, that includes The Adventures of Bayou Billy, something AVGN couldn't get past), so I hope to do it with this one in the future.
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The games mechanics just don't click with me for some reason, couple that with the barrage of bullets from land and air always spells failure.
davidwhangchoi
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part of the difficulty is getting used to the clumsy controls. a pain in the butt
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Mailman came today. Now I'm ready to get funky & open my sealed Tempo.
Someones got to show the 32x some love.
Someones got to show the 32x some love.
IrishNinja
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nice! shadow's a hidden gem too, good find
gotta play Tempo sometime as well
gotta play Tempo sometime as well
LuciusAxelrod
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My girlfriend got me Primal Rage for my 32x for Christmas. She wrapped it in a garbage bag.
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Inb4 joke from
theslacker about how the entire system and its library belongs in a garbage bag
IrishNinja
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this is fantastic
but nobody's dethroning the guy with the girl who did that custom Sonic Jam artwork
Gunstarheroes
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Funny enough, i also got this for Christmas.
Difference being, it was the last game i needed to complete my CIB 32x collection. Primal Rage is the way i went out. What a game to end it on : (
Yeah looks like Xeno universe didnt really start getting the money it deserved until Xenoblade Chronicles? Didnt Xenosaga run into the same issues?
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Shadow Hog
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And even then, it took a lot of fan outcry to even get the game Stateside.
Although Europe localizing it in the meantime did give the thing a very nice British flavor.
I won a boxed SEGA Genesis a few days ago at a bar's trivia night. it's the 2nd Genesis model and it came with a 3 button controller AND a 6 button controller AND sonic 2. I went to the shop and picked up SF2CE, MKII -- love the genesis conversions of both these games, wow! -- sports talk baseball, bill walsh college football 95 and the 6-Pack.
need to get a multitap for BWCF95. guess it's the EA multitap or bust in that case.
having so much fun with the console! it's actually getting way more playtime than any of the other consoles in the house, which is really cool since my roommates don't really care about video games and are more likely to play stuff like madden and call of duty than anything else. But really, they've been playing the genesis more than i have.
need to get a multitap for BWCF95. guess it's the EA multitap or bust in that case.
having so much fun with the console! it's actually getting way more playtime than any of the other consoles in the house, which is really cool since my roommates don't really care about video games and are more likely to play stuff like madden and call of duty than anything else. But really, they've been playing the genesis more than i have.
Shadow Hog
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You should get Virtua Fighter 2 for it :V
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Congrats. Genesis is the best console of the 16 bit consoles. So much diversity and depth to its library.
Armoured Priest
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In spite of the "its a movie" criticisms, the first Xenosaga game did really well (Episode one sold enough to warrant a Greatest Hits version). They changed the gameplay up for the second one, though. It [Episode two] sold reasonably well, but was kind of bad gameplay-wise. A couple of the key people had left Monolith Soft (including the main person behind the writing of the series). So between the game-play being sub-par and the story turning into mush did a lot of damage to the series. Not a lot of people bought or played Episode Three...which is a shame, because both the gameplay and story issues were largely fixed. Its why Episode Three is one of the more expensive PS2 games to buy used...rivaling rare Atlus/NIS games. I sold my copy of episode three for about $50. Certainly not rare Gen 4-5 console prices, but for Gen 6 stuff, that's kind of high.
Its one of the reasons Nintendo was skittish about bringing Xenoblade Chronicles out in the West...which is a shame they sat on it so long Xenoblade was a great, really forward looking jRPG.
That's awesome, and in a way I feel like you, these days.
After so many years - since when I sold my very old Japanese MD, with the plan to quickly buy another one, yet ending up getting tons of different games/systems instead - I finally built up my dream setup around Christmas, and I'm going through my whole collection again, having some sincerely fantastic time doing so.
If you plan on playing the games, no.
Knuckles Chaotix is shit.
There is Blackthorne but unfortunately the SNES version is better.
That's about it.
Yeah, not worth it. The original Virtua Fighter is pretty bad. The sequels are leaps and bounds better.
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There are a couple good games for the system and some versions being better than others. Mk2, NBA jam, Virtua Racing. I wouldn't spend hundreds but if a deal can be had, it's worth it.
But the terrible quality samples in the Genesis port are one of the best parts!! "RYESHHH FROM YOUR GRREEEEEEVVE!"
entremet
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Wow, I love this!
The Mega Drive version has my favorite rendition of this game's soundtrack, and now it's handling the best samples too. And as big as those samples were in 1988, it probably wasn't too long after until the average cartridge size would have accommodated them with ease.
Would be fantastic to try with an Everdrive...
StevieWhite
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You forgetting all 6 of the wonderful 32X CD games. Fahrenheit is worth the price of entry alone. Kind of.
robot
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Forgot to post these 3 that came in a few weeks back. All complete with manuals and in great condition.
TF3 is one of my favorite shooters of all time. I never really played 4 (Lightening Force) and 2 was pretty great minus the top down stages but can't leave that one hangin.
Now I just gotta ditch this game genie and pick up a Mega Drive.
TF3 is one of my favorite shooters of all time. I never really played 4 (Lightening Force) and 2 was pretty great minus the top down stages but can't leave that one hangin.
Now I just gotta ditch this game genie and pick up a Mega Drive.
davidwhangchoi
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Forgot to post these 3 that came in a few weeks back. All complete with manuals and in great condition.
TF3 is one of my favorite shooters of all time. I never really played 4 (Lightening Force) and 2 was pretty great minus the top down stages but
Now I just gotta ditch this game genie and pick up a Mega Drive.
those are one of the most amazing games ever on MD/Genesis. nice grabs!!
i actually miss the top down sections w/ it's own unique power ups.
reminds me of timepilot 84' on roids=)
IrishNinja
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congrats oneida, that's awesome! i'm dying to find a model 1 genesis box that came with altered beast like i had in the day, no luck lately
yeah, dude put up the hack on Sega-16, it's pretty cool!
maaan, that's unfair - Knuckles is cool, it just feels kinda barren/tech-demo-y
Kolibri is neat, Space Harrier/etc was the best port until the (now expensive) Saturn ones
DOOM, Shadow Squadron etc - there's stuff to play, i just wouldn't pay a high price for it. fortunately i got mine for free, you can still (i wanna say) commonly buy em on the cheap when people list em as not working, clean the cables & be good to go, just need a trio power adapter & some cables
yeah, dude put up the hack on Sega-16, it's pretty cool!
maaan, that's unfair - Knuckles is cool, it just feels kinda barren/tech-demo-y
Kolibri is neat, Space Harrier/etc was the best port until the (now expensive) Saturn ones
DOOM, Shadow Squadron etc - there's stuff to play, i just wouldn't pay a high price for it. fortunately i got mine for free, you can still (i wanna say) commonly buy em on the cheap when people list em as not working, clean the cables & be good to go, just need a trio power adapter & some cables
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Just about all of the 32x games are cheap, cart only. Exception being Spiderman.
I never played Blackthorne back in the day. But I did play it through Fusion and graphically it's about on par with the SNES version, just with fewer buttons to work with. I encountered the weirdest bug and I'm not sure if it was Fusion or the game itself where the soundtrack would just stop playing when I would use an elevator.
I'm trying to avoid ports. And the vast majority of games on the 32X are ports. Doom was fun on the 32X back in the day, but come on, there's no reason to play it now.
And Knuckles Chaotix sucks terribly. Unless you're a collector there is no reason to own it.
IrishNinja
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looks great, sounds great, has awesome bonus stages
im saying, one day someone will mod in a bunch of enemies and Chaotix will shine
im saying, one day someone will mod in a bunch of enemies and Chaotix will shine
A Black Falcon
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The SNES version isn't better. The 32X version has an exclusive level and a 32X-exclusive graphical overhaul. The PC/SNES version looks different, and probably not as good, as the 32X one. It is different though, so some people like the original look more, some the 32X, but which is better is a matter of opinion.
As for the controls, it's equally good if you have a 6-button controller.
The levels are insanely empty and that makes the game boring, but yeah, it's not awful or something, just boring. The gameplay is okay though, and those bonus stages are great, so while Knuckles Chaotix is disappointing, it is an alright game overall.
Space Harrier 32X is awesome no matter how many other platforms you have it for!
Yeah, the 32X is something to get when you find one cheap. It's got a few pretty good games, such as Shadow Squadron, Virtua Racing Deluxe (with 2 32X-exclusive tracks), and Space Harrier, among others, and some other decent to good ones such as Tempo, After Burner, Star Wars Arcade, Blackthorne, Kolibri, etc. It's certainly not a must-have, but iIf you like Sega's games on the Genesis, you're likely to find some good games on the 32X too.
Knuckles Chaotix is badly flawed, but it does play decently and it has really good bonus stages. It's no Rise of the Robots, not even close.
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oh no you did-hnt
reminds me, i should work Cosmic Carnage in on my GAF GOTY list
agreed - when you've explored the genesis library & want more, it's cool for that. plus mega everdrive means virtua hamster & that beta X-men game with bishop, haha
It is a very bad game. I love the Genesis Sonic games (I hate all of the 3D ones except for Generations) but Chaotix is pretty much dog shit.
There's very few enemies to fight.
Level select is based on a slot machine-style randomness. Unless I missed it (and I tried to look this up) there is no way to avoid getting a level you've already played. I assume that it is just completely random unless there's a secret objective or you have to get through a level with a certain team.
The main gimmick of the game with the leash bs gets very tedious and slows down the gameplay.
The level design is repetitive. Almost every single level is designed to have you go upwards in little loop-to-loops.
Knuckles Chaotix had great presentation, but the actual game is kinda boring.
Lmao.
the only thing bad about VF1 is the 30fps framerate
Lmao.
Shadow Hog
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You can't go to a level you've already played; each of the five zones only has five acts, and once you've played all five acts in a zone, it no longer is eligible for selection in the roulette. Once you've beaten all five zones that way, the final boss unlocks.
I have no idea what you mean about secret objectives.
Not gonna say Chaotix is a good game by any stretch, but it's not really terrible, either. Just painfully mediocre. Presentation and special stages are ace, though (like, best special stages in the series, honestly).