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Sega Saturn Appreciation and Emulation Thread
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Wait what does that video have to do with Sega composers?
Yea I have no real use for morphing, the normal form has been more than adequate for all the boss fights thus far (on disc 4 now). So long as you know the boss patterns and preload your lasers or shot there's just no real benefit. I don't even use the beserks outside of heal for the most part.
I love the game but it feels like they rushed some of it. Some of the cutscenes (especially action ones) don't always make sense and there's a few areas where it's like 'ok now go access this third thing, it's literally right next to you'.
The hardware obviously hindered the size of the areas and because of the draw distance it makes flying around the large open parts (uru) kind of a nightmare without using the field map all the time. So it also makes it wwaayy more linear than I remember.
But all that said the battle system is still fun as hell and it's such a unique setting and system I can't help but love it, even when it's being weird.
Gunstarheroes
Member
UNDERSTAND, UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF LOVE
Not sure why this is the Saturn thread and not Dreamcast, but hey, amazing song regardless
Anyways, Hideki Naganuma is known for just getting a whole bunch of random clips of stuff and putting them together into something amazing.
Using the morphing system properly makes the difference between winning a fight and owning a fight.
Shadow Hog
Member
As Gunstar was getting at (but forgot to link to): listen again to the part of the video linked to (85m19s in), then listen to this.
I mean, Sonic Rush's final boss music is also a sampled Malcolm X speech.
StevieWhite
Member
Agreed. It's a great game, but it does seem kind of unfinished. You could play through the game VERY ATTENTIVELY and still miss every conceivable sidequest. That being said, it does live up to the hype; my favorite RPG of the era, easily.
theSlacker
Member
Yeah. The long box Saturn and CD games have a bunch of things that can just be wrong with them that is hard to see in standard pictures. With CD games it is easier to see some of it though since everything is branded blue, so the bends and cracks stand out. It's hard to even tell if someone just printed out the back/spine artwork on Saturn games from pictures.
With all the people selling disk prints it's even harder to trust online sales now. Problem is that the only place that I'm really able to see the games that I want to buy in person are at conventions and what not, and sellers completely overprice their stuff there. It's not me being cheap, its seeing Rayearth for like $400 without stickers. Retro game stores aren't much better. I live right near eStarland and even though they have a ton of games, they have everything vacuum sealed so I can't really inspect them how I would like. There are a number of high price games that I would gladly pay the current, even ebay, going price for if I could be completely sure of their condition, but they are the ones that cost so much that I'm just not willing to risk it if there is any doubt.
I've never seen a copy of Panzer Dragoon Saga that doesn't have the wavy rear art insert. I think it's a combination of cheap paper and the heavy use of dark ink for that particular insert.
Mine is not wavy at all.
Ohh interesting! Awesome track.
b-but that song is from Future on the Xbox!
Gunstarheroes
Member
Moor-Angol
Banned
As I said, I'm looking to collect SS games
The spine-card was included in the package, like the manual
You can play a game w/o the manual? of course, especially if the game is in japanese and you can't read kanji
but a game w/o manual is not complete in the same way it comes w/o the spine-card, of course in my opinion as a collector
Moor-Angol
Banned
some PS1 also are nice, and I agree with you about DC ones, most of them are identical, just white and orange
I've only got a few PC Engine ones, but they're my favorites.
I love the bold colors. It's a little cleaner and more modern feeling than the Saturn's goldish ones.
But hey, all spine cards are great.
Gunstarheroes
Member
I've never worried about spine cards. I just don't get the appeal myself.
Valkyria
Banned
Some are pretty, for me that's all.
theSlacker
Member
Since I have yet to import a saturn game I don't even know what they are really. I mean sure, I can see them in pictures but I still don't fully understand them. They are on the outside of the case right? Does the back art for the game itself not wrap around that corner and have no design/title without them?
They really don't serve any purpose other than acting as an additional variable to stew over when seeking to fulfill a CIB import Saturn collection. Even if they were particularly cool-looking (spoiler: they aren't) once the jewel case is out of the shrink wrap, there isn't anything to really do with them other than have them.
theSlacker
Member
Well I mean, does the game look incomplete without them, as in is there no artwork or anything under where they normally sit?
The case/art is complete underneath. Think of it more like when gaming magazines came in sealed plastic bags that had art/text screened over top of them. The spin card is completely supplementary.
Same here, I'm glad I can deal without these because in the opposite case my collection probably would've cost me a LOT more just for those little paper things.
theSlacker
Member
I'd never seek them out, but they're a fun little packaging treat to get when you do get them. And they make my Dracula X copy worth way more for no good reason, so that's cool.
Moor-Angol
Banned
With my post I didn't mean they are essential, anyone can buy games the way he wants
I just said I made the decision to buy all games in that way (and not only SS, even PS1 and DC) and I'm keeping on it.
If I see 2 copies of the same game, one with the spine-card and one without it, same price, why should I have to buy the latter?
I have "the luck" to live in Japan and prices usually don't change due the presence or lack of the spine-card, the price changes by the condition of the whole object (disc, manual, case and s-c conditions)
Also it's getting difficult to find complete games in the same way SFC boxed games had skyrocketed in the latest years.
But I say it again, spine-cards are NOT essentials and my post was not intended to have that meaning
But I didn't like some kind of answers, as I acted as some sort of snob...
Everyone can buy games in the way he wants, I'm not judging anyone or telling the way games should be bought, we are just talking about our common passion : SS games
theSlacker
Member
But I say it again, spine-cards are NOT essentials and my post was not intended to have that meaning
But I didn't like some kind of answers, as I acted as some sort of snob...
Everyone can buy games in the way he wants, I'm not judging anyone or telling the way games should be bought, we are just talking about our common passion : SS games
Oh no worries chum, I wasn't commenting on anything you had claimed, just making a proclamation for myself for when/if I look into importing some Saturn games.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
The UPC barcodes are printed on the spine cards. That is their only actual function.
Ingueferroque
Banned
Spine Cards are gorgeous, shut up.
IrishNinja
Member
spinecards have even less worth than genesis box hangtabs
yamauichi was a high ranking yakuza
the last boss in your favorite game is prolly cheap as hell
why is there so much ammo but no health in these fucking boxes b
all this and more at 11
yamauichi was a high ranking yakuza
the last boss in your favorite game is prolly cheap as hell
why is there so much ammo but no health in these fucking boxes b
all this and more at 11
Gunstarheroes
Member
A+ post. Also, Golden Silver in Gunstar Heroes is actually kind of a pushover.
Bar81
Member
FTFY
Moor-Angol
Banned
today I bought this :
iirc it had good words here, I'm just worried about how it plays using a normal pad instead of analog pad w/stick
iirc it had good words here, I'm just worried about how it plays using a normal pad instead of analog pad w/stick
Nice find!
Don't worry about playability, it's a Doom-like not a Quake-like, you don't need vertical accuracy. You move around with the dpad and strafe with the shoulder buttons. I do think it's the second best way to control these type of games, second only to mouse-controlled turning. Keyboard-only is third, twin-sticks are useless.
You're being hyperbolic, delusional and rude.
IrishNinja
Member
wait wait i'd not say such a thing, manuals have objective value, as empirically proven in peer-reviewed scientific studies
doubly so when they're in color!
yeah, that didn't stop Sega from milking the series though...time to go check ebay for my little white whale
Bar81
Member
Well, if there's been scientific tests then I guess that's settled.
Premium Disk? I got that for free a few years ago, straight from Camelot.
They had somehow come into a second batch of them, and quietly let a few people know.
IrishNinja
Member
Premium Disk? I got that for free a few years ago, straight from Camelot.
They had somehow come into a second batch of them, and quietly let a few people know.
whoah whoah, i just want a legit US copy of Shining III for a good price, what's the details on the premium disk?
Bar81
Member
If you bought all three scenarios you could mail in for a premium disk in Japan.
sixteen-bit
Member
Y'all talking about SFIII?
Now, bear my arctic blast!
Now, bear my arctic blast!
It let you fight classic bosses from the series, using characters from all 3 scenarios of SF3. It also had character artwork, the soundtrack, an interview, commercials...
It's definitely the most expensive of the SF3 disks.
theSlacker
Member
I know I could just google this, but are there translation patches for the non us released scenarios? It has been what has kept me from really wanting to get SF3.
sixteen-bit
Member
yeah
Confounding Factor
Banned
I have Battle Garegga, my favorite game ever, and a white Sega Saturn. Anyone else enjoy the game as much as I do?