Yeah I wish all specialty Scart cables had them... I often find myself wondering if the Scart cables I bought before were Csync or SoC.
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Sega Saturn Appreciation and Emulation Thread
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Yeah I wish all specialty Scart cables had them... I often find myself wondering if the Scart cables I bought before were Csync or SoC.
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
Got the saturn and the RGB cable but apparently the adapter that comes with the XRGB mini doesn't work with the SCART cable?
Actually not that big of a deal while I wait for the adapter because composite somehow looks really nice coming out of the saturn. Way nicer than composite should look.
Actually not that big of a deal while I wait for the adapter because composite somehow looks really nice coming out of the saturn. Way nicer than composite should look.
People say that they can't imagine RGB being that much better than composite on Saturn. I just have to kind of laugh at that. There's still a night and day leap between the 2 outputs on Saturn.
After playing around a lot more with my Saturn lately, I have to say that the Saturn's RGB picture quality is criminally under appreciated. Saturn and Dreamcast have the most flawless analog RGB image quality. Sega wasn't playing around with RGB output from their machines. They're output is fucking god tier.
I mean... Just look at this shit: http://youtu.be/MqgDvGe3q80
Do you see that? It's fucking incredible. Just absolutely perfect. It's RGB valhalla. No massaging, no further modding, or tweaking. It's just reference level right from the source. Boom, one and done.
Shadow Hog
Member
The adapter that comes with the XRGB-mini isn't SCART. It's JP21.
If you'd plugged that cable into an XRGB3, you'd have broken the XRGB3. Fortunately, the Mini is smarter about this.
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
whoa, yikes! lol
Good stuff. I want a dreamcast RGB cable but they seem harder to come by.
Shin Johnpv
Member
Get a Toro VGA box instead for the DC. It has Native RGB Scart on it which supports 480p where as the native DC RGB Scart cables don't.
Yep, Toro is the way and the light for Dreamcast.
Saturn's RGB is amazing, I would know as I have a custom scart cable with audio out. Saturn's composite still has that ugly rainbow coloring on text and such.
Most Dreamcast games support VGA(the best for that system), and some can even be patched to support it. Only a few don't support VGA but can do everything else, list here.
As for Dreamcast Scart cables, well, here's one.
Most Dreamcast games support VGA(the best for that system), and some can even be patched to support it. Only a few don't support VGA but can do everything else, list here.
As for Dreamcast Scart cables, well, here's one.
I bought a loose Japanese Saturn a couple of days ago. It was cheap so I figured I could get some cables later. To my surprise the loose console wasn't quite as loose as I thought. There's a Scart cable installed already:
Has anybody seen a mod like this before? I've never heard of it. I tried to find out if the Cable is RGB or composite and judging from PIN layouts I found on the internet I think it's RGB, but I'm not sure:
Has anybody seen a mod like this before? I've never heard of it. I tried to find out if the Cable is RGB or composite and judging from PIN layouts I found on the internet I think it's RGB, but I'm not sure:
Unfortunately I can't test it yet because I'm missing a step down converter (I'm in Europe). Maybe I should open the console to see how the cable's connected exactly? One thing's for sure, though, I have to clean the connector
I bought a loose Japanese Saturn a couple of days ago. It was cheap so I figured I could get some cables later. To my surprise the loose console wasn't quite as loose as I thought. There's a Scart cable installed already:
Has anybody seen a mod like this before? I've never heard of it. I tried to find out if the Cable is RGB or composite and judging from PIN layouts I found on the internet I think it's RGB, but I'm not sure:
Unfortunately I can't test it yet because I'm missing a step down converter (I'm in Europe). Maybe I should open the console to see how the cable's connected exactly? One thing's for sure, though, I have to clean the connector
It's likely, or rather certainly, JP21. Not Scart. It's super weird someone bother to do that. All that is needed in JP21 cable with a Saturn lead.
They probably just wired it for composite.
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
yeah...hard to swallow dropping way more than what the console cost on the vid cables, but I reckon i'll snag the Toro at some point.
Thanks. Yeah, it's really weird. So I guess I need an adapter to hook it up to my TV. Though maybe I should just use the standard AV out and a different cable.
Most likely, yeah.
Yeah, I'm sad too. Instead we got a fighting game...why not both dammit?Finally got to play Golden Axe: Revenge of Death Adder at a barcade I went to yesterday and now am salty Sega didn't port it to the Saturn.
SEGA
IrishNinja
Member
Finally got to play Golden Axe: Revenge of Death Adder at a barcade I went to yesterday and now am salty Sega didn't port it to the Saturn.
SEGA
SO JELLY
its at the top of my sega arcade list to play one day (Moonwalker, ESWAT etc), i'd stay till i beat it for sure. so tragic!
i was lucky enough to get to beat Planet Harriers a few years back, though
Bar81
Member
Finally got to play Golden Axe: Revenge of Death Adder at a barcade I went to yesterday and now am salty Sega didn't port it to the Saturn.
SEGA
Salty about that as well; enough that I bought the PCB.
sixteen-bit
Member
Finally got to play Golden Axe: Revenge of Death Adder at a barcade I went to yesterday and now am salty Sega didn't port it to the Saturn.
SEGA
hopefully Sega and M2 come through with a 3D classic or something
socksfelloff
Member
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I love the "box art" for the game.
moltonasty
Member
I use my Toro with VGA out into my PVM, are there any benefits for using the RGB SCART output instead? And are there specific SCART cables that people use? My understanding is it's different from HDMI cables, where every cable is essentially identical..even the overpriced Monster cables and such
Sapiens
Member
I love the "box art" for the game.
Very much a "kitchen sink" sort of game - everything about the presentation was incredible.
How did sega have so much talented devs and artists back then?
socksfelloff
Member
If your pvm takes vga there is no point in using scart. Scart is a universal connector that can carry all forms of video. The actual video output we are looking for when using scart is RGBs.
SCARTand VGA cables are analog and there is a large difference between cables. Always buy good cables when dealing with analog signals. Hdmi is digital and less susceptible to noise/interference.
Sega fucking killed it with software development. It's a shame that Sega hardware eventually tanked the entire ship.
sixteen-bit
Member
I love the "box art" for the game.
this is really good
No real advantage to going Scart over VGA if your monitor accept both. In some ways, Scart is a step down from VGA. VGA has discrete Hsync and Vsync lines and supports higher resolutions in most devices. The only thing that can be an issue how you monitor handles 720 horizontal lines from PC formatted 480p.
The dreamcast spits out a 720x480 frame with an active 640x480 area. Some TVs might recognize that incorrectly and not scale horizontally properly - leaving some folks with a squished horizontal picture. On an HDTV like a late Panasonic Plasma one has to be sure to set the image to 4:3 rather than full or vice-versa... Can't remember how it goes off the top of my head.
Finally got to play Daytona USA CE. How do I get dancing Jeffery? Hit X? Doesn't work for me...
Would fit perfect with a Saturn long case box.
I love the "box art" for the game.
Would fit perfect with a Saturn long case box.
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
it's all about Dora
StevieWhite
Member
Anyone here have experience with the Rhea? I'm curious as to how the user experience is on that thing.
blast processed
Member
And it would look amazing.
socksfelloff
Member
I have one. It does what it says. I also have a gdemu for my dreamcast and the 2 are very different.
Installation was a breeze.
Rhea has no GUI. You can have multiple image files on a card but you must flip through them with the button on the Rhea board. I personally keep 2 games on the SD card and the rest I transfer to and from the computer.
Rhea does not increase load speed like a GDEMU. Your experience will be identical to using a disc.
Rhea does work with an action replay cart the same way you would use a disc.
Rhea is very picky with image format. I use UltraISO to convert/rip into MDF format.
On the topic of images; there are alot of garbage images out there for download. Any issue you run into will most likely be from this. Rip your own discs to avoid any issues. Alot of images run in an emulator because emulators can cheat/force there way through issues. Real hardware cannot do that.
Overall I love my Rhea. I've had it for approximately a year and have had no issues.
thechristoph
Sir!
Hey duders. I posted my Saturn stuff in the BST thread. Just didn't fall in love with the Saturn like I had hoped.
StevieWhite
Member
This is extremely helpful - thank you!
I also have both a Rhea and a GDEMU, and can confirm everything socksfelloff stated, with one exception. The Rhea does have a GUI, in the form of a very basic menu. It's simple and works well. As was noted above, Rhea is extremely picky about images formats, and the optional menu is even more so, only supporting .CDI and MDF formats, in my experience.
A couple of other notes; you can bypass region with the Rhea, allowing you to play imports without further console modification (and freeing up your cart slot for other uses). There is also the option to turn on a 'high speed' SD Card transfer option, potentially decreasing load-times, but I haven't messed around with that yet. Both of these options are available by adding a simple text-file on to your SD Card.
Photoshop it!
There's absolutely no way that the NA box art would look that good...
blast processed
Member
sixteen-bit
Member
RODA home port woulda been rad
Piston Hyundai
Member
Does anybody know if the Sony KD-32FS170 is a solid TV for retro games? I came across one looking for CRTs with S-Video.
entremet
Member
I love the "box art" for the game.
How expensive is the PCB?
Great game! I was just lucky enough to find a disc only copy.
Piston Hyundai
Member
Never was able to get that game working. It'd just hang after the port house's logo.
Reposting this because it was buried in Revenge of Death Adder and we're on a new page.
Yeah it was literally the only Saturn game he had. I'd never heard of it but was pleasantly surprised.